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01-09-2020, 05:31 AM | #46 |
YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Boonville MO USA
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| EXACTLY! AND! INDEED! And WE as humans/owners are the ones that FAIL that Consistency! Dang It! Ha Ha Raising, Caring for, an animal is much like human children.....if you let go of the Leash, and they get away from you, many times you have to Run to TRY to put your hands on that Leash again! It's that every day, every single day, Get Off Your Butt and Work With YOUR Animals (children) that we Humans seem to get LAZY at! If not getting on the couch was wrong yesterday, it is wrong today and tomorrow and always. If not jumping on people is wrong as an adult dog.....TEACH THIS AS SOON AS THE PUPPY COMES HOME WITH YOU. (not yelling, just trying to make a point) Far too many owners/parents use the words, "He/She does not like it.". Life is FULL of 'does not like its.' for ALL of us!, ey? An example.....the puppy that never learns to walk on a leash because the owner, at the time, did not take the time to teach the basics correctly! Or the owner who only walks their dog where the dog wants to go.....because, "He/She won't come with me.". I will say too though, that in Today's World, people are not being raised owning animals. From my generation back, we were. Many of us not only pets, but also livestock. If a person is not raised with animals it does not come natural for them to Train.....some people, it does, or they learn, but most of today's young owners have no idea what to do with an animal.... |
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01-09-2020, 07:56 AM | #47 | |
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__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog | |
01-09-2020, 11:11 AM | #48 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
01-09-2020, 11:29 AM | #49 | |
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OMGooooodness! If I sounded like I was thinking or saying....."I know everything", forgive me. I sure sure don't. I am here, on this forum to learn and talk about Yorkies. But I will NOT allow you to 'beat up on me" about something I DO know about. We do not have to agree on this. If you want to pretend there is no such thing as a Leader to a Domestic Dog or in a Wolf or Coyote Pack.....that's on you. I KNOW however, there sure is. And that leader is called an Alpha. If they do not FIND an alpha, they may just BECOME THE ALPHA! | |
01-09-2020, 01:46 PM | #50 | |
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
01-09-2020, 01:47 PM | #51 |
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| I have to agree with Marna based on my own personal experience. There has to be a leader / alpha / boss, select any title, it all boils down to being in charge and setting ground rules, what is acceptable, what is not. If there is no leader / alpha / boss you have a dog that rules you. The dog may not see a human as an alpha but sees you as the one in charge. All my dogs were spoiled brats but, when the mama spoke they listened, they knew who was in charge.
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01-09-2020, 01:55 PM | #52 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
01-09-2020, 03:13 PM | #53 | |
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You cannot condemn someone for not wanting to read something. I use the word alpha and pack leader all the time, that does not mean I use alpha tactics in my training program. In a group such as YT, it's just a word used meaning the human is in charge. We all have our own way of training our dogs, if it works for you then you stick to what works, not every dog can be trained the same way and you have to accept that. As long as positive training is being used. In the case of Whimsy I agree with you, that poor dog was destroyed with negative, abusive training by many different trainers. You have to trust your trainer. When you have never been a dog owner you don't know what negative training is, you do as the trainer teaches you. If a member refuses to read an article because they have been successful with their training program you should not frown upon that. Remember, that link may help others.
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog | |
01-09-2020, 03:14 PM | #54 | |
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It is funny to me, that you are 'disturbed' by what and what I am not reading. That to you, I am not worthy because I have not fallen all over your 'research'. Crap is written on the Internet every single day. Not all of it is worth a grain of salt. I am amazed that in Today's World people get degrees based on 'book knowledge' rather than hands on experience. I'll take this 'Training Ways' further.....this will probably FLIP YOUR LID! I do NOT like Clicker Training one bit! There are 'experts' out there who make all sorts of claims about how much better Clicker Training is than other ways..... <sneezes.....bull....shee....tt...> Wanna know why.....here is a research page for you, https://workinggermanshepherddogs.com/?id=582 ....scroll down til you find the photos of clickers. BTW, that is ONE of MY animal training websites, PLEASE also visit, on that site, my Obedience Page as well as My Trick Training page. You might just find I might know just a bit about training animals.....be sure to see the Guinea Pig video on the Trick Training page....yes, mine also. Check the Navigation Bar at the side, see the Animal Training Sites? Mine. Everyone of them, mine. I have been training, I mean really truly training, animals since I was 6 y/o. As I have said before: "What works for one person with their animals, may or may not work for another with their animals." When people come to these forums and ask for help, as this thread started, I have found that trying to help them, not arguing and worrying about how others are reaching the same goal is the POINT! Not worrying about or being disturbed by what others are reading or not reading. Not judging what the person may or may not have done to get to the point of asking for help, but taking them from the ask forward as best we can. | |
01-09-2020, 03:27 PM | #55 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
01-09-2020, 03:31 PM | #56 | |
YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Boonville MO USA
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So we disagree.....let it go now. | |
01-09-2020, 03:34 PM | #57 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| You can’t tell me what to do. You also can’t disagree about facts. Sure you can chose to ignore then I suppose......
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
01-09-2020, 08:41 PM | #58 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Suffield, CT
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| Anyway, BHANISH: any progresss? I hope your training is going well!!!! |
01-09-2020, 10:50 PM | #59 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Suffield, CT
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| I guess the alternitive is NOT letting it go. I also dont click on all random links from strangers because if I did Id never have any free time and my experiance is that there is a lot of bad "research" on the internet that could fill decades of free time!!! Marna, I cant believe you can train ginea pigs and fish!!! Amazing. Last edited by Yorktowny; 01-09-2020 at 10:52 PM. |
01-10-2020, 06:26 AM | #60 | |
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Can YOU believe it!, Guinea Pigs are about like training a dog! I was AMAZED HOW EASY TO TRAIN! I find that GPs are easier to train than Pet Rats. I have trained many of both species. GPs really are about like training a dog....and so danged CUTE! But Potty Training either......no. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C_goGQrzz8 | |
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