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Old 02-26-2010, 12:07 PM   #61
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Thanks for the tip, dogs run off leash here too, even though it's not allowed. The owners always say their dogs are friendly, and I'm sure if a fight started, Joey would have provoked it, but still . . .
I was impressed with this stick thing and will have to search it online. It is about 12-15" long when folded, covered with a nice braided leather look stuff then with a push of a button the extension pops out, sturdy & strong. It would be somewhat like carrying a small umbrella size wise.

Pitbulls are probably the most popular dogs on Maui, and many are at least mixed w/PBs. While I don't like "dog profiling", the failure of owners to properly train & restrain these dogs have resulted in many injuries and fatalities here. This protection stick is definitely the best defense I've seen, and probably interesting to defend against a human attack as well.
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Good information, I like the fact that you do allow some barking because I do believe that a dog should be allowed to bark, but enough is enough!
Oh gosh yes, I expect them to bark in certain circumstances. They are my alarm system, and they MUST tell me when someone is here. Once I acknowledge, they must quit. They also get to bark/talk to each other when engaged in play; it's part of the zoomies, and come get me game. Barking is a way of communicating for them, and I wouldn't take that away.

It's just nice to be able to stop it when it isn't appropriate. I no longer have to scream and yell at them, or add to the noise with coins in a can, or squirt water on them, or lock them in the bathroom when workers come. We can calmly and sanely go to quiet mode now.
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I'm so glad I found yokietalk! We have a chocolate lab and pomchi which don't bark and will listen if we tell them something, but our new 4lb baby yorkie is giving us a headache. We adopted Murphy 3 weeks ago and he's a barker; especially, at the cat. First, we tried the spray bottle and all we ended up with is a wet dog. Then we tried pennies in a can and all he'd do is run around us to continue barking at the cat. Recently, we've been trying to get his attention before the barking starts by rattling his food dish, which seems to work if we catch him in time, but if he's already started his bark rampage it's too late. I suggested to my husband we should get the pet parade dog repeller.

Thanks everyone! It's a relief to know we're not alone!
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That very well could be!

I don't know how dogs ears work, but it seems like I've read that humans lose hearing in the upper ranges first, I wonder if the same is true of dogs? I imagine when they do a hearing test, they just do a voice type of hearing test, not a machine, but I don't know. Cockers don't bark as much as yorkies do they?
Well they are pretty good barkers, and loud! She has a deeper bark while Mindy has a high pitch eardrum killer bark..LOL..

Hearing loss is not actually normal, i mean it is not a normal part of aging. Usually it is caused from damage to the ear. I had A LOT of ear infections as a child and I was 70% deaf in both ears. Had surgery..WOW. But as the years have gone by the damage was still there so I have lost a lot of my hearing. But not as bad as when I was 10 years old.

But deep, male tones are harder for me to hear. I DO read lips while I listen to people talk so they HAVE to look at me when they talk to me.

Hanna's ear infections have not been damaging. I was often not taken to a dr when I had an infection, I had them so much. I remember laying on the floor as a child, rolling back and forth in pain, in tears while my mother gave me a hot water bottle. She was stupid! Blew smoke in my ears even believing that would help the pain..NOT

Whew, sorry that brought back some not so nice memories..LOL..

Anyhow, they do have special booth like tests for dogs.. I wouldn't pay for it though. Vets can get a pretty good idea of hearing problems with the stuff they have.
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Also, this device is not working as well as it first did.. Even with the training i do using it... Maybe it works better if you just have 1 dog..I don't know. I am still trying though..lol
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I have 4 dogs, all sizes so I don't think number of dogs matters much. I say quiet...very firmly... while I point the box at the offending dog. AFTER I say quiet I then press the button for just a second, that's all. No more than that. I may have repeated,this, in rapid succession, several times during one incident. It was more like a point quiet press chase point quiet press chase over and over as the dog tried to yip quieter and quieter while getting away from the noise. Happened very very quickly and was over. We had two maybe three incidents and then it was quiet point chase, NO PRESS...LOL now an occasional quiet point. NO CHASE NO PRESS... I never held the button more than a second at a time. I think anymore than that would just hurt and cause a reaction rather than the shock stop result that you're trying to achieve.

I'm no expert, everything is just trial and error for me.

And Nancy1999 do you know how many hours I've lost on the internet trying to find that darn spider costume???? many look alikes but none just alike.... it's killin' me I tell ya!!!!
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[QUOTE=nana911;3015851]That is a whole 'nother issue. My DH and I used voice on tape for that. Taping his voice reading a book for a long time and then setting it in the bathroom, on play. Letting the dog think he was in the bathroom and sneaking out. After awhile the dog got used to the idea that daddy was coming back when he left and we no longer had to use it. (this was done for our 80lb mix breed shelter dog, none of the others had this issue, and he is a daddy's boy).

I wouldn't use the bark repeller for anxiety because it is not a behavioral issue it is a phsychological problem and would just cause the dog more issues. You can't stop anxiety without finding and addressing the source.[/QUOTE]

How do you stop anxiety? My daughter's dog definitely has this, but how in the world do you address it?? He barks at noises, people walking, definitely other animals, even on television. At all other times, I swear, he is a sweetheart & gentle soul. At our house, he barks at animation, other dogs on television. My daughter has her television up high, so in his frustration, he grabs his bed and shakes it for a few seconds?? It's like a territorial thing.

It would be so wonderful if this works to ease his anxiety.
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How do you stop anxiety? My daughter's dog definitely has this, but how in the world do you address it?? He barks at noises, people walking, definitely other animals, even on television. At all other times, I swear, he is a sweetheart & gentle soul. At our house, he barks at animation, other dogs on television. My daughter has her television up high, so in his frustration, he grabs his bed and shakes it for a few seconds?? It's like a territorial thing.

It would be so wonderful if this works to ease his anxiety.[/QUOTE]

Is it possibly pent up energy? Is he the only animal in the house? Meaning does he have another animal, cat or dog, to really romp, chase and play with and if not is he taken on long walks a couple times a day to get rid of a lot of energy. Our two yorkies are littermates and spend most of their waking time wrestling and chasing each other so they have literally no left over energy. Baxter is a couch potato, low energy dog and requires no energy draining. Bear, on the other hand requires about a 1 mile walk per day every day. If my DH gets lazy and doesn't do this we definitely begin to notice a difference in his behavior. He gets antsy and actually begins to occasionally bark in the house, something he never ever does without provocation. All due to lack of walking. Return to walking and he immediately mellows and returns to his perfect way. It is amazing what regular walking does for a dog's pyschological well being. I'm not saying this is the problem, just a possibility.
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I have 4 dogs, all sizes so I don't think number of dogs matters much. I say quiet...very firmly... while I point the box at the offending dog. AFTER I say quiet I then press the button for just a second, that's all. No more than that. I may have repeated,this, in rapid succession, several times during one incident. It was more like a point quiet press chase point quiet press chase over and over as the dog tried to yip quieter and quieter while getting away from the noise. Happened very very quickly and was over. We had two maybe three incidents and then it was quiet point chase, NO PRESS...LOL now an occasional quiet point. NO CHASE NO PRESS... I never held the button more than a second at a time. I think anymore than that would just hurt and cause a reaction rather than the shock stop result that you're trying to achieve.
Well I certainly don't hold the button down, because it hurts MY ears!! I can hear that thing every time I use it. But it was working to a point, and now they don't seem to even hear it and i think it's because they bark to loud and drowned that sound out!

All I can say is things are getting out of control and we are not enjoying our dogs when they behave that way. I am going back to static collars, at least I know they work and don't hurt them. I have 3 dogs they will go on and none of them are my little yorkies.

It's Mindy the 10 pound yorkie, Hanna my cocker and Candy my cockapoo. She is a toss up because she is easier to get to stop. But Hanna and Mindy are just horrible and then get the rest going.
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Well I certainly don't hold the button down, because it hurts MY ears!! I can hear that thing every time I use it. But it was working to a point, and now they don't seem to even hear it and i think it's because they bark to loud and drowned that sound out!

All I can say is things are getting out of control and we are not enjoying our dogs when they behave that way. I am going back to static collars, at least I know they work and don't hurt them. I have 3 dogs they will go on and none of them are my little yorkies.

It's Mindy the 10 pound yorkie, Hanna my cocker and Candy my cockapoo. She is a toss up because she is easier to get to stop. But Hanna and Mindy are just horrible and then get the rest going.
WOW! you've got seriously good hearing! I drive everyone nuts turning up the TV. I can't imagine hearing dog decibels. I feel for you. Everything can't work for everyone and I'm sorry this product doesn't work for you. Barking with no solution would be enough to drive you up a wall, and yes it would take a lot of the joy out of your pet relationship. The can of coins did work up to a point with Baxter but scared him to death and the noise ran me nuts. Had this not worked I'm not quite sure what I would have done. I feel for you...
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WOW! you've got seriously good hearing! I drive everyone nuts turning up the TV. I can't imagine hearing dog decibels. I feel for you. Everything can't work for everyone and I'm sorry this product doesn't work for you. Barking with no solution would be enough to drive you up a wall, and yes it would take a lot of the joy out of your pet relationship. The can of coins did work up to a point with Baxter but scared him to death and the noise ran me nuts. Had this not worked I'm not quite sure what I would have done. I feel for you...
Actually I have hearing loss of at least 40%.. When I was 10 I was 80% deaf and with surgery I was almost normal then I started losing it again.

BUT, I have a serious sensitivity to very high pitch sounds. There was many years I couldn't do into the TV area's of stores. Now they are made differently, thank god! But I couldn't go near them because I could hear the high pitched sound they made. It hurt to the bones... It is just plain weird! lol

Anyhow, the dog repeller sometimes works, and works for other things but when they are all barking, forget about it. I still try still use it..I am not one to totally give up, some things take longer. But I am just going to need a back up with these 3 dogs and as a training aid only.

I have collars (static shock) that have 4 levels and are used ONLY by remote control. Thet have never felt it when I have used levels 1 and 2 and sometimes even 3. It also has a button that only makes a beeping sound that gets their attention.

I press that first, and give the command "no bark" and they do not respond I then press #3 and repeat the command. The shock startles them and sometimes they yelp, but I can assure you, it's just cus it feels really weird! We have tested all levels on ourselves, me hubby and my son, and so we know exactly how it feels.

Anyhow, I rarely, if ever have to push anything except the sound button again after that. Even days later. And like I said before it is a training tool and only to be used until the dog obeys his commands without it. a lot of people think it shocks the crap out of them causing them pain like electrocuting them.

But it is a static shock, just like walking across a carpet and touching someone. But remember, the dog has fur so they feel it even less than we do on bare skin

I figured I had nothing to lose on the repeller and thought it would be easier to use. But honestly it's harder to train with this then it is with a collar. They just learn quicker with the collar.

My cockapoo Ripley, all I have to do is put the collar on him and he knows and will not bark when he has it on, take it off and he also knows he can now bark..LOL.. I only used it on him a few times. Like any training tool you have to use it until it works without having it on and I didn't do that with him.

anyhow i'll shut up now cus I talk to much
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Having put the shock collar on and used it on yourself buys you a whole lot of entitlement that someone who disparages its use and has never felt its effects can ever claim. I applaud that. I feel the same about cops who have been willing to take the taser hit in training. I feel they have more of a right to carry one the the cop who hasn't because they are more judicious about its use. They know how it feels and what the consequences are. Sounds like a good mom to me.
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We got ours Saturday, first I want to say, that the directions give some pretty specific advice. Point the Dog Repeller directly at the dog from 5-6 feet away, and it's effective up to 20 feet. Give the verbal command, and press button for one or two seconds. Repeat steps until your dog responds. Do NOT use on your pet within a foot of you pet, in other words don't get up too close.

Joey was barking Saturday, and didn't obey my verbal command, so from about 8 feet away, I pointed the Dog Repeller at him said "Quiet" and held for no more than one second, it was pretty much press down and immediately release, a light goes on to show you it is working. Joey stopped barking, and just looked at me, he didn't wince or act like he was in any type of pain, but he just looked at me like "What the heck?" I expected to use it again to give more details, but he hasn't been barking much since Saturday, and stops when I tell him "quiet", so I can't really test this thoroughly, he's never gone a whole day without barking. Lol, I need to call the cable guy. Anyway, I did want to remind others not to use it from too close a range. Do not let kids play with this either.
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Nancy which one do you have?
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It call "Dog Repeller", I got it at the Amazon link. Amazon.com: Pet Parade Dog Repeller and Training...Amazon.com: Pet Parade Dog Repeller and Training...
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