"In The Dog House" hate thread

[sushidoodidoo]

So You guys finally got this a$$-h's show! I don't have AP in my cable package, but this show has been on Canadian TV for a couple of years now. Sounds like the exact same episodes, except that the show is called "At The End of My Leash" here. His name is Brad Pattison, and here's his website:
BradPattison.com - Brad Pattison

He actually tours the country, giving seminars and that kinda crap, AND people are PAYING to go see him, his seminars are all sold out!!! At least it was in Toronto. THAT's why he's still in business!!!

He has also started this training school to train trainers!!! And he charges $6000 for the course!!!!! So good news is we're gonna have even MORE Brads popping out of everywhere!!!!!!! Must be the end of the world!!!!

So Mr. Pattison, my yorkie and maltese sleep in bed with me, they don't ALWAYS come when I call them, I give them a little bit of my food whenver I eat (and if I don't, they "remind" me that I should), They jump on people to say hi (and they get REWARDED and spoiled by thoese people EVERYTIME they do it), they sit on the couch (or pretty much anywhere they want in my apartment), they bark if someone knocks on the door, they steal my dirty socks and underwear, AND I WOULD NOT CHANGE THEM FOR THE WORLD!!!!!

[RoxyLuv]

Originally Posted by kalina82

yeah he put it there!! he found it on the floor. he's just gross...

i didn't know they were reruns that were purchased. AP is testing the waters i guess. well hopefully they'll see how horrible the show really is. i'm not watching him anymore. he's just plain bad.

According to my Comcast menus, Brad's shows have been filmed in 2007.

[rebeccag]

[QUOTE=Wend;2757556]The one I saw the dude spray painted on their walls! In their living room! I could tell the couple was really pissed, I would have been too.

I saw that episode and thought he was going to get knocked out....

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by sushidoodidoo

So You guys finally got this a$$-h's show! I don't have AP in my cable package, but this show has been on Canadian TV for a couple of years now. Sounds like the exact same episodes, except that the show is called "At The End of My Leash" here. His name is Brad Pattison, and here's his website:
BradPattison.com - Brad Pattison

He actually tours the country, giving seminars and that kinda crap, AND people are PAYING to go see him, his seminars are all sold out!!! At least it was in Toronto. THAT's why he's still in business!!!

He has also started this training school to train trainers!!! And he charges $6000 for the course!!!!! So good news is we're gonna have even MORE Brads popping out of everywhere!!!!!!! Must be the end of the world!!!!

So Mr. Pattison, my yorkie and maltese sleep in bed with me, they don't ALWAYS come when I call them, I give them a little bit of my food whenver I eat (and if I don't, they "remind" me that I should), They jump on people to say hi (and they get REWARDED and spoiled by thoese people EVERYTIME they do it), they sit on the couch (or pretty much anywhere they want in my apartment), they bark if someone knocks on the door, they steal my dirty socks and underwear, AND I WOULD NOT CHANGE THEM FOR THE WORLD!!!!!

What Brad, teaches is not differnt then Ceser, sorry I know some really rather not go there but it is all dominace based balony. Bard does it to humans and it not acceptable cause they are humans but I am saying it not acceptable to any living being.
As I have meet this fellow and so has two of my instructors..oh and they did not believe me until they saw him drag a puppy a large breed puppy up and down a set of stairs( way to wreak hips,) either.
Anyway he ended up with an article and a harning planted all over IPDTA.
But there are people out there that think he hung the moon and can do not wrong. He a saint for fixing not only the poor dog but the crazy people that own them. You know he must be right cause he has a TV show and they only give shows to those that really know their stuff...yeah right.
If it on Tv it must be so.

JL

[QuickSilver]

I think it is the same theory, but Brad is much rougher with the dogs. I think Cesar can be pretty rough, but in the few shows I've seen, Brad repeatedly lifts dogs off their feet by their collars, and encourages owners to do the same. Sometimes it doesn't even seem like he likes dogs all that much.

It is a scary thought that people pay to learn how to train like him. That's why it's so important to make sure you agree with your trainer's philosophy.

I've mentioned before that some good friends of mine had a pit bulls with serious emotional issues. They rescued him from the pound, who told them he was a Vizla. Oops. Anyway, they hired a trainer, and thinking back on it, I realize this guy must have been completely old school. He told them to get a choke collar, and snap it. He also told them not to pet him, because he couldn't handle too much affection, it would make them seem weak in his eyes. They gave the dog a good life, but they had to limit him in many ways because they never had confidence in his behavior. I never touched him. I don't know how they found the trainer, but it's a shame they ended up with that one.

[kjc]

Here's a thought. With all the bad publicity I'm hearing hear (on YT) about Ceasar Milan, AP gets this guy to show what bad training really is, thereby getting the focus away from CM and more onto VS and people will start thinking that CM isn't that bad.
I don't think CM is all that bad, except I haven't seen one thing he does mentioned in the threads I've read yet. And, no, I haven't read them all, because you training fanatics are very passionate about training and therefore extremely wordy in your posts and I don't have time to read it all. Has anyone caught the CM episode with the Korean Jindo (sp) dog that became uncontrollably vicious in the house with the owners? Or one of the English Bulldog episodes (I think it was the one where the dog claimed the owners golfcart)? I will call it the Sleeper Hold, similar to the wrestling move where one wrestler falls asleep after being held in a headlock too long. We used it on occasion at the Vet Hospital I worked at, but only if life and/or limb were threatened. It involves depriving the out of control dog of oxygen until he becomes submissive, or more accurately, too weak to fight back any longer. Ceasar makes it look like a leash adjustment, which it is: he quickly loosens the leash/collar combo before the dog passes out. I remember telling my husband that I didn't believe they just showed that on TV!
I don't know why anyone would use the Alpha roll on a puppy other than for severe agression? I've used it but only as a last resort, and never on a young pup.
I've noticed 2 differences also. Some people are training puppies that they are the first owners of, and others are trying to train the rejected rescues, that come with their own baggage of God only knows what they've been through and what are they thinking anyway? Each requires a different approach.
I will also venture to say that all the cases one sees on TV are a result of no training, or no training beyond basic obedience or cute tricks.
I use a cloth choke collar on one of my Yorkies. I have to. She chases cars and tries to drag us into the street when one passes by. Walking her with a halter on is like having nothing on her. She refuses to walk with a Halti collar, or anything on her face. If a choke collar is used correctly, it will not hurt the dog. Put one on your arm and give it a jerk, a good jerk. My neighbor thought I was mean to use one until I showed her this on her arm. The key is after you jerk it, it should return to hanging loose around the dog's neck, no pressure at all, like a necklace. You may have to give the dog one or two good jerks and releases till they get the idea that the collar can tighten and become uncomfortable. Then, the correction is to make the collar make noise, where it barely comes in contact with the dog's neck, but the dog hears it and adjusts his behavior. My other neighbors got a Rotweiller pup and of course, they would never use a choker on her. I've seen the lady get dragged down the street and around a mailbox, because she is no longer a cute puppy, but a lear jet once she's out and about. And the collars they use are putting more pressure on her neck than a choker ever would, when used correctly.
I'm done. Thank you.

[YorkieMother]

KJC-- there are any number of threads that are related to or mention CM as you call him and I have posted any number of times that why his methods are not the best course of action and the fall out of using them.
As to the rest of the post I work with and live with a rescue that has major issuse and I have also started a freshly minted baby.
I have worked with dogs coming out of a breeding kennel that are poorly soicalized. I have transported a five time human biter at the ripe old age of 11 months back to a breeder.
There is not need to use choker on any dog as there are other devices like head collers that can and do do the job of controling a dog better.
I have also used a martingale no my dog a self limiting choker but found thzat she was smart enough to slip it if she was in need to go hunt a dog or two. That is why it more safe to run a hatlie onto a coller or harness so you have them if they let fly.
Problem with chokers is that all to many do not even know how to put them on in the right manner and depending on the gage of the choker it can do a great deal of harm to a dogs trac and to use them effectively you need to pop it the first time so hard the dog is air born. If not and you slowly increase the level of pop strenght you are teaching the dog to addapt and cope and ingore it.
There is the be a tree method to teach no pull and several others that can and do work. When working with dogs as big as 100 pounds I am not big enough to pull and pop and drag. I Work yorkies too and I know they can pul like afreight train but they are not goingto dag me like the big guys.

As for putting one on a yorkie the risk to a trac is far to great to do that. I rahter a yorkie pull then one that can not breath right.

Quicksilver- Ceser does not let the AHA their film division in on his set like all the other TV productions do. So why not? what is he hiding? What he was been caught at and sited for is bad enough. The public does not know just how bad it is because of that.
What we do know and see is bad enough if you understand learned helplessness.
Cesers teaching too and he hits a wider group of people then Brad.
While Brad is more aggressive to the humans and is less sophisticated in hiding what he does with the dogs. People tend to do what many here are and blowing him off.
Ceser is being investigated for the Husky clip and possible choking a dog to passing out and also been sited twice already. Brad still to my knowledge in the clear....I am not defending Brad, I do not like him either Brad is more or less shotting himself in the foot by begin not nice to the humans in the show he pretty much self limiting himself and will.
Now we could get into bark busters as well and there out dated training methods to. It not just one person or group it the method of training and it going the way of the dinosaurs just not fast enough.

JL

[QuickSilver]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Problem with chokers is that all to many do not even know how to put them on in the right manner and depending on the gage of the choker it can do a great deal of harm to a dogs trac ....
JL

This is my understanding as well, and why harnesses are much more popular now.

[RachelandSadie]

just watched the episode with the couple who want more "sex"

he doesn't give a rats butt about the dogs in that show, he just makes them go on a date and all this bologna... what is his deal?? he's really really stupid!!

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

EEEEEEEEW, I thought the dogs had actually pooped in their bed, which is gross and unacceptable, but he PUT IT THERE? Why do people let this man into their homes?

From what I understand, these shows are reruns. APL must have purchased them, presumably for a low price. I think this is how "It's Me or the Dog" started on APL, no? I don't believe her show started on APL, though I could be wrong. I think APL took her over, which is why the tone has changed in the past few seasons.

Anyway, my guess is that this is a low cost experiment for APL to see if he gets a following. I do think he will get pulled, because he's not controversial, he's just bad.

okay putting poop on someone's bed is sick and twisted and not even remotely the same as a dog's butt on the bed... for one thing my dog gets her butt wiped off with a wipe before coming into my bed so she's 100% clean down there...ewww what a freakin' jerk that guy is...

but i can't stop watching to see what dumb things he's going to do next...so i guess i'm one of those to blame for the ratings on his show...but he's just too bad to resist watching and getting all fuming mad about.

[Miss Lulu]

Hello,

I'm new to this thread, and was wondering do you have to own a Yorkie? As I don't own one, but I do own small dogs. Does that count?

[Miss Lulu]

Originally Posted by Miss Lulu

Hello,

I'm new to this thread, and was wondering do you have to own a Yorkie? As I don't own one, but I do own small dogs. Does that count?

I forgot to say I don't like his methods. I find him rude to people and their dogs.

[QuickSilver]

Hi, welcome to YT! A lot of this forum is yorkie-specific, but the training forum isn't. I'm sure you have a lot of great experience to add. And all negative comments about "In the Dog House" are extra welcome.

[Miss Lulu]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Hi, welcome to YT! A lot of this forum is yorkie-specific, but the training forum isn't. I'm sure you have a lot of great experience to add. And all negative comments about "In the Dog House" are extra welcome.

I have not seen in the dog house, but have seen him on youtube and his other show called at the end of my leash and from what i have read on here it sounds like AP bought the reruns. I don't like how he talks to the owners nor do i like what he does to the dog's there are better ways to train a dog you know through positive method. On his youtube video he was being very rude to the owner and so rough with her dog. It made me very mad to see that i wanted to jump through the screen.I have trained all of my dogs which are two Jack Russell's and a Chi all done through positive method and no food just plain praise. If they do something good they will get praised and if they do something wrong they don't get praised. Yes, Mr. Pattison i let my dogs sleep with me and yes, I talk to them all the time how else is the dog going to learn what you want him/her to do. I think he's really confused about dog training cause body language can play a big role, but so does voice, hand signals as well. I don't understand why people follow him and his methods, i have seen people in my area that using his methods and it's sad to watch the dog being dragged everywhere tied to you with no words and the dog looks confused on what to do other then i must follow. Not a good way of training in my experience. I think i'm done for now. Well maybe!

[Gennies]

Hate, hate, hate this guy's attitude and smugness!!! I watched it last Saturday and was shocked it's on right before Victoria is on and their training styles are so night and day.

Did anyone watch her last night? She's so amazing!!! That crazy lady letting that lab mix pull her around like that because she didn't want to tell him no. Please!!! The dog ran out of the house twice in the show and almost got hit the one time! Victoria worked her magic with no physical punishments and the dog was a perfect gentleman in the end )