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jeanm1963 · 08-05-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ralphmaddy

Now the part that I want to understand about crate training does she need to be in the crate even when I am home? Like for the first couple of weeks is she only allowed to come out when its time for us to go outside and time for play time and food?

Personally reading your work hours its wayyyyyyyy to long to leave her alone in the crate that is nearly 9 hours a day.. in my opinion that is far to long for a 8 month old puppy to be confined.. JMHO tho!!
Secondly I would get up early try to take her out for a walk to pee, come in get ready for work and before you leave maybe she will have to poop OUTSIDE ,give her extra special treats for pooping outside. I think the gated off area you have is great but she is obviously bored if she is chewing walls and playing with poop... try a couple of puzzle toys, a bully stick and a kong, maybe those will keep her busy.. If you cant afford a dog walker maybe you have a teenage in your neighborhood that would like to earn 10-15 bucks a week for coming in and playing with her and taking her for a quick walk..

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 03:25 PM

No offense to kids BUT there really isn't any kids on my block that I can trust to come into my house when I'm not home....

I agree that its way to long to leave her in the crate but I once had a x pen for her and what she would do is tear up all her pee pads. Believe me she has WAY to many toys she has rubber toys and stuffed animals. Bully sticks I keep reading about that I need to get her some to see... She has this thing that is rubber with a treat inside of it she plays with that for hours but she does get really bored...

I guess what I really need is for her not to eat and or play with her poop..I want to leave her in the gated kitchen but I'm closing the door to my bedroom.. Today I found a spot on the bed because she is apparently taking the poop on bed to eat

crystalsmom · 08-05-2009, 03:36 PM

I would get an xpen or keep her in the kitchen with a gate until you get home. Set up her food and water far away from the pee pad and you might put a bed in there as well and of course toys.

When you are home, you might try tethering her(hope is spelled that right.) She needs to get out from her confined space but needs to be with you. You can tie her to your waste and the length of the heavy string or rope can be as long as it works for you. It's a pain but they can't pee when you are not there. Then set a timer to get her out at certain times, maybe 1 hr apart. These dogs as adults have tiny bladders and as a puppy they need to go out often. I might mention if she is beginning to let you no by going to the door, I would not even think of the tethering. You will need help through the day.

Good Luck.

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 03:47 PM

Is this the meat tenderizer..

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Julie1760 · 08-05-2009, 03:58 PM

I think if you change her to a better quality food, she won't be pooping so much. The food you are feeding her is full of alot of fillers which will make them poop alot.

Crate training is the best way to go, but you do have a problem with being gone for too long for her to hold it all day. Maybe once you get her on better food, and use the meat tenderizer, that will help. My 2 usually one poop once maybe 2 times a day.

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 04:00 PM

What foods are good? I thought Eukanuba was the best? I'm sorry I know I'm clueless but this is my first pup.....

QuickSilver · 08-05-2009, 04:16 PM

I think your schedule is good. You want to take her out ~15 minutes after drinking to pee, and about 1 hour after eating to poop. Feed her twice / day for 15 minutes each.

I agree that your schedule is not ideal for a pup. You'll need to do everything you can to get home at lunch, because she is going to mess her crate if you don't. After after she messes her crate, it will be easier to for her to do it again, etc.

You're going to need to focus a lot of attention on her when you're not working to make up for the time she spends alone. Try to get more creative about what you can do -- any neighbors who have a dog who can do some casual dog sitting? Doggy daycare 1x / week?

I have read that exercise + mental training tires them out the most. If you can, I would take her for out for 45 minutes in the morning to for a vigorous, disciplined walk. This would kill me as I am a night owl, but I get to take my dog to work.

Then 15 minutes of play + training at lunch, then another 30 when you get home. She will probably be tired most of the day and able to adjust to that.

There are also timers that will drop toys down to your dog every hour or two hours. That would only work if she were out of the crate, though.

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 04:25 PM

I like ur idea.. I gotta look into the drop the toy thing..

I don't know about the 45 mins walks in the morning I start work at 7am and by waking up at 530 its still dark out. LOL

I'm gonna look into a day care around my way I highly doubt it the only place is petsmart and thats to far for me....

Zanders' mom · 08-05-2009, 04:38 PM

Hi, I give my furbabies Wellness, they go poop in the a.m. and evening, they are fed 2x a day.

I leave Lexie in a childs x pen, Walmart.com: North State - Superyard XT Portable Playard and Gate: Gear like this but with 4 panels, in it is her bed, water, toys and a pipi pad. This xpen sits on top of a thick plastic that I purchased at the fabric store, it is wider then the xpen so Lex can't take a corner and chew on it. This plastic is her floor and it makes for easy clean up. I leave the radio on for her when I am away. There is a product called forbid that you put on their food and it keeps them from eating it.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

Love_Capone · 08-05-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ralphmaddy

I like ur idea.. I gotta look into the drop the toy thing..

I don't know about the 45 mins walks in the morning I start work at 7am and by waking up at 530 its still dark out. LOL

I'm gonna look into a day care around my way I highly doubt it the only place is petsmart and thats to far for me....

Camp bow wow has a bunch of loctaions, thats where I take Capone. See if there are any near you. campbowwow.com

I know your frustrations, I work all day and it was really hard at first to get him on a good schedule. But I think she can hold it for a few hours if you let her out right before work, then come home on your lunch.

cpuff35 · 08-05-2009, 04:53 PM

Have you considered feeding Nature's Variety raw?? The food is a bit more expensive but you can try feeding them this in the morning (and dry kibble at night), so that when your furbaby poops in the afternoon it would be hard solid poop. I've tried feeding Cassi this, but unfortunately her digestive tract did not do well on it. When Cassi was on raw her poop came out really small/hard/dry and she also pooped alot less. I believe when the poop is really hard/dry...it should make it less edible.

Also I highly recommend picking up a few bully sticks. This could keep your furbaby entertained. The bully stick should last you a few days. One of the YT member currently has the bully stick on sale (see link below). I usually get the 6.5" long for my 5 lbs and 2.8 lbs furbabies and it last them 4-5 days.

Good luck!!!

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...tick-sale.html

143julz · 08-05-2009, 04:57 PM

Good points from QuickSilver and Capone
We just started feeding our boy 2x daily and got away from "free" feeding. It will get him on a schedule and hopefully make things easier on you.
Don't think that he'll starve, he won't, he'll pick up on that one quick

We keep ours in the crate from 830-530, hubby come home for lunch every day for an hour and he gets out and plays, and does his business.
He actually LOVES his crate, when we go out on the weekend for a few hours or so, we leave him out only to come back and find him inside the crate, HA

Good luck to you.

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 05:05 PM

I really appreciate everyones feedback I think Sunday I'll start her out and see. I would start her on Saturday but she has a groom appt on Saturday hehe

I'm def going to look into those bully sticks. They look like something she would love especially if its treats that she has to lick and bite at... She for some reason loves a challenge....

I'm going to call the vet tomorrow and see what she recommends on food. I know they sell there Science Diet is that food good?

Thanks again for everyones help.....

Oh and that camp bow wow is like 40 mins away from my town

but it def something I wanna look into.. Maybe I can send her there once a month or so that way she can have play dates....

Zanders' mom · 08-05-2009, 06:22 PM

I would not leave the furbaby with the bully stick, if your baby starts choking on the bully stick there is no one to help. Furbabies have issues with the bully sticks as well, I was giving my 3 some merricks flossies, 2 of them came down with a stomach bacterial infection, they had diarrhea. They were both put on antibiotics and are fine now but I am not giving them any bully sticks any time soon. Just FYI.

Better foods - Wellness, Innova, Chicken soup for the puppys soul, honest kitchen....

ralphmaddy · 08-05-2009, 06:26 PM

yeah I would be afraid to that myself. I get worried with her now that I took away her rope chewy toys because she chews so much on them that she rips the threads off that during the night she starts to gag and I just know that its the thread of the toys.. So I took those away from her....

Thanks for the heads up...

08-05-2009, 03:25 PM	#17
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	No offense to kids BUT there really isn't any kids on my block that I can trust to come into my house when I'm not home.... I agree that its way to long to leave her in the crate but I once had a x pen for her and what she would do is tear up all her pee pads. Believe me she has WAY to many toys she has rubber toys and stuffed animals. Bully sticks I keep reading about that I need to get her some to see... She has this thing that is rubber with a treat inside of it she plays with that for hours but she does get really bored... I guess what I really need is for her not to eat and or play with her poop..I want to leave her in the gated kitchen but I'm closing the door to my bedroom.. Today I found a spot on the bed because she is apparently taking the poop on bed to eat __________________ Roxy's Mommy

08-05-2009, 03:36 PM	#18
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	I would get an xpen or keep her in the kitchen with a gate until you get home. Set up her food and water far away from the pee pad and you might put a bed in there as well and of course toys. When you are home, you might try tethering her(hope is spelled that right.) She needs to get out from her confined space but needs to be with you. You can tie her to your waste and the length of the heavy string or rope can be as long as it works for you. It's a pain but they can't pee when you are not there. Then set a timer to get her out at certain times, maybe 1 hr apart. These dogs as adults have tiny bladders and as a puppy they need to go out often. I might mention if she is beginning to let you no by going to the door, I would not even think of the tethering. You will need help through the day. Good Luck. __________________ Last edited by crystalsmom; 08-05-2009 at 03:37 PM.

08-05-2009, 03:47 PM	#19
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	Is this the meat tenderizer.. 0001121628618_500X500.jpg __________________ Roxy's Mommy

08-05-2009, 03:58 PM	#20
Julie1760 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Packer Country!!! Posts: 666	I think if you change her to a better quality food, she won't be pooping so much. The food you are feeding her is full of alot of fillers which will make them poop alot. Crate training is the best way to go, but you do have a problem with being gone for too long for her to hold it all day. Maybe once you get her on better food, and use the meat tenderizer, that will help. My 2 usually one poop once maybe 2 times a day. __________________ •·.·´¯`·.·•Julie •·.·´¯`·.·• Chloé & Myah

08-05-2009, 04:00 PM	#21
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	What foods are good? I thought Eukanuba was the best? I'm sorry I know I'm clueless but this is my first pup..... __________________ Roxy's Mommy

08-05-2009, 04:16 PM	#22
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	I think your schedule is good. You want to take her out ~15 minutes after drinking to pee, and about 1 hour after eating to poop. Feed her twice / day for 15 minutes each. I agree that your schedule is not ideal for a pup. You'll need to do everything you can to get home at lunch, because she is going to mess her crate if you don't. After after she messes her crate, it will be easier to for her to do it again, etc. You're going to need to focus a lot of attention on her when you're not working to make up for the time she spends alone. Try to get more creative about what you can do -- any neighbors who have a dog who can do some casual dog sitting? Doggy daycare 1x / week? I have read that exercise + mental training tires them out the most. If you can, I would take her for out for 45 minutes in the morning to for a vigorous, disciplined walk. This would kill me as I am a night owl, but I get to take my dog to work. Then 15 minutes of play + training at lunch, then another 30 when you get home. She will probably be tired most of the day and able to adjust to that. There are also timers that will drop toys down to your dog every hour or two hours. That would only work if she were out of the crate, though. __________________ If you love something, set it free. Unless it's an angry tiger. Last edited by QuickSilver; 08-05-2009 at 04:18 PM.

08-05-2009, 04:25 PM	#23
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	I like ur idea.. I gotta look into the drop the toy thing.. I don't know about the 45 mins walks in the morning I start work at 7am and by waking up at 530 its still dark out. LOL I'm gonna look into a day care around my way I highly doubt it the only place is petsmart and thats to far for me.... __________________ Roxy's Mommy

08-05-2009, 04:38 PM	#24
Zanders' mom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,351	Hi, I give my furbabies Wellness, they go poop in the a.m. and evening, they are fed 2x a day. I leave Lexie in a childs x pen, Walmart.com: North State - Superyard XT Portable Playard and Gate: Gear like this but with 4 panels, in it is her bed, water, toys and a pipi pad. This xpen sits on top of a thick plastic that I purchased at the fabric store, it is wider then the xpen so Lex can't take a corner and chew on it. This plastic is her floor and it makes for easy clean up. I leave the radio on for her when I am away. There is a product called forbid that you put on their food and it keeps them from eating it. I hope this helps. Good luck. __________________ With GOD .... All things ARE possible!

08-05-2009, 04:53 PM	#26
cpuff35 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cresskill, NJ, USA Posts: 1,030	Have you considered feeding Nature's Variety raw?? The food is a bit more expensive but you can try feeding them this in the morning (and dry kibble at night), so that when your furbaby poops in the afternoon it would be hard solid poop. I've tried feeding Cassi this, but unfortunately her digestive tract did not do well on it. When Cassi was on raw her poop came out really small/hard/dry and she also pooped alot less. I believe when the poop is really hard/dry...it should make it less edible. Also I highly recommend picking up a few bully sticks. This could keep your furbaby entertained. The bully stick should last you a few days. One of the YT member currently has the bully stick on sale (see link below). I usually get the 6.5" long for my 5 lbs and 2.8 lbs furbabies and it last them 4-5 days. Good luck!!! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...tick-sale.html __________________ Evelyn, mommy to Cassiopia Titus Orion

08-05-2009, 04:57 PM	#27
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	Good points from QuickSilver and Capone We just started feeding our boy 2x daily and got away from "free" feeding. It will get him on a schedule and hopefully make things easier on you. Don't think that he'll starve, he won't, he'll pick up on that one quick We keep ours in the crate from 830-530, hubby come home for lunch every day for an hour and he gets out and plays, and does his business. He actually LOVES his crate, when we go out on the weekend for a few hours or so, we leave him out only to come back and find him inside the crate, HA Good luck to you. __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!

08-05-2009, 05:05 PM	#28
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	I really appreciate everyones feedback I think Sunday I'll start her out and see. I would start her on Saturday but she has a groom appt on Saturday hehe I'm def going to look into those bully sticks. They look like something she would love especially if its treats that she has to lick and bite at... She for some reason loves a challenge.... I'm going to call the vet tomorrow and see what she recommends on food. I know they sell there Science Diet is that food good? Thanks again for everyones help..... Oh and that camp bow wow is like 40 mins away from my town but it def something I wanna look into.. Maybe I can send her there once a month or so that way she can have play dates.... __________________ Roxy's Mommy

08-05-2009, 06:22 PM	#29
Zanders' mom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,351	I would not leave the furbaby with the bully stick, if your baby starts choking on the bully stick there is no one to help. Furbabies have issues with the bully sticks as well, I was giving my 3 some merricks flossies, 2 of them came down with a stomach bacterial infection, they had diarrhea. They were both put on antibiotics and are fine now but I am not giving them any bully sticks any time soon. Just FYI. Better foods - Wellness, Innova, Chicken soup for the puppys soul, honest kitchen.... __________________ With GOD .... All things ARE possible! Last edited by Zanders' mom; 08-05-2009 at 06:26 PM.

08-05-2009, 06:26 PM	#30
ralphmaddy Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 193	yeah I would be afraid to that myself. I get worried with her now that I took away her rope chewy toys because she chews so much on them that she rips the threads off that during the night she starts to gag and I just know that its the thread of the toys.. So I took those away from her.... Thanks for the heads up... __________________ Roxy's Mommy