Judy Marksbury- Show Breeder

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

Did you read Judy's post here? She not one time offered this OP a refund of money. She offered her another pup from the same litter who if this is a genetic problem could end up with the same issues. She offered to pay only for the parasite issues if she got the papers from the vet. We are not just taking another persons word for this but Judy's own words.

You are taking the word of the OP. Have you seen proof of the issues being alleged? I'm not saying that even though we work hard to breed a litter free of health issues, something can't happen. I, personally, want to have the vet reports before I can take any action. When you confront a breeder with this you provide documents.
I have personally known this breeder for years. How do you know the OP? From YT? How can you be involved in ruining a good persons reputation when you don't know either side personally?

[dottiesyrky]

Judy should come here and defend herself and not send a legal eagle who is trying to scare us all. As for Sheila, I have known her for some time on YT and we shared many personal and emotional mails in the past re the loss of our beloved pets. She had the illness long before this situation arose, and I believe Judy understood and saw she was sick…and why she wanted a pet again. Sheila is a sweet person who would not have posted her experience with Max unless she was totally frustrated with the unfeeling breeder, with whom she thought she had a good relationship. I do know that money must be paramount to Judy and trump any emotion or empathy for people, otherwise she would let Max stay where he is and recompense Sheila for her sick pup, contract or no.
Things always get nasty when the law is involved!!!!

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by dottiesyrky

Judy should come here and defend herself and not send a legal eagle who is trying to scare us all. As for Sheila, I have known her for some time on YT and we shared many personal and emotional mails in the past re the loss of our beloved pets. She had the illness long before this situation arose, and I believe Judy understood and saw she was sick…and why she wanted a pet again. Sheila is a sweet person who would not have posted her experience with Max unless she was totally frustrated with the unfeeling breeder, with whom she thought she had a good relationship. I do know that money must be paramount to Judy and trump any emotion or empathy for people, otherwise she would let Max stay where he is and recompense Sheila for her sick pup, contract or no.
Things always get nasty when the law is involved!!!!

Judy, didn't send me, she didn't have to. Read your own words, they validate what I have been saying about the relationships involved. I applaud you for sticking up for your internet friend.
The law was involved when the contract was agreed upon.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

You are taking the word of the OP. Have you seen proof of the issues being alleged? I'm not saying that even though we work hard to breed a litter free of health issues, something can't happen. I, personally, want to have the vet reports before I can take any action. When you confront a breeder with this you provide documents.
I have personally known this breeder for years. How do you know the OP? From YT? How can you be involved in ruining a good persons reputation when you don't know either side personally?

No I am taking the breeder at her own words. Her post is the one I am referring to. Yes I agree she needs to see the vet records, but she stated that she would pay for the parasite part of it only, also she stated she would do a replacement puppy. Not one time in her posts here did she offer to return purchase price for the puppy or pay up to the purchase price for vet bills if this is a genetic issue.

[theporkieyorkie]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

. She needs to return the pup for a full refund as offered by the breeder who I might add is yet to see a vet report.

Can you show us where she said she would return the pup for a full refund?!? I am not seeing it anywhere in her post...but I could have easily missed it.


A lot of people read this...perspective buyers and breeders alike. I would think, if she was innocent in all of this and she felt her character was being defamed, she would want to defend her name and reputation. Your name is everything as a breeder and I would think she would want to share her side of the story.

I know you are saying that nobody knows Judy or her side of the story....but she's welcome to come here and tell it. Perhaps then, we can understand why she does what she does. So far...all she's done is come on here and confirm what Shelia already told us...which is Judy is only willing to swap out Max.


There are always 2 sides to the story.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

Judy, didn't send me, she didn't have to. Read your own words, they validate what I have been saying about the relationships involved. I applaud you for sticking up for your internet friend.
The law was involved when the contract was agreed upon.

Yes the law was involved when the contract was signed but as a former business owner of 30 years I know that word of mouth referals trump it all when it comes to my reputation. I always did all I could to satisfy my clients whether I thought I was in the right or not. In the long run you will lose a whole lot more than money with an unsatisfied customer. If you think the customer is wrong you make them happy and send them on their way and don't do business with them again. But here we are talking about a living breathing puppy who has no say in any of this. He deserves the very best of care and the breeder who was responsible for bringing him into this world should want that also. It should not be about the money.

[Dixies Mom]

How can Judy appropriately respond to anything without documentation of the accusations?
Look at the posts... You all have taken words not actual finding and judged. Judy had explained to me that taking the puppy back and issuing a refund was an option given to the OP. I understand this is hearsay and I am asking you not to judge someone on that very same thing, my apologies.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

How can Judy appropriately respond to anything without documentation of the accusations?
Look at the posts... You all have taken words not actual finding and judged. Judy had explained to me that taking the puppy back and issuing a refund was an option given to the OP. I understand this is hearsay and I am asking you not to judge someone on that very same thing, my apologies.

So you know, I have read a couple of the things Judy said to Sheila in her emails to her and they at one time thought she was going to take Max back and give a refund and due to Sheila's health problems they decided maybe it was best although they love him very much. But then she decided NOPE no refund replacement only or nothing. So yes you are going by your friends word and I understand that but maybe you should ask her to see the emails she sent Sheila.

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

So you know, I have read a couple of the things Judy said to Sheila in her emails to her and they at one time thought she was going to take Max back and give a refund and due to Sheila's health problems they decided maybe it was best although they love him very much. But then she decided NOPE no refund replacement only or nothing. So yes you are going by your friends word and I understand that but maybe you should ask her to see the emails she sent Sheila.

Were the emails "forwarded" to you? I do not need to see the emails however, it may be interesting to compare.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

Were the emails "forwarded" to you? I do not need to see the emails however, it may be interesting to compare.

They were sent to me in messages. Personally I do not know the breeder and I really don't want to see anyones reputation ruined but many a wonderful breeder here including many highly respected show breeders have given Judy very good advice about her contract and even those she has not seen fit to respond to. I don't think anyone here at YT is trying to be malicious. We all want what is best for little Max and for Sheila. We are a caring community not here to crucify anyone and we would love to know why Judy does not see fit to first of all have the genetic testing done on her breeding pairs and also to adapt her contract to make sure all her puppies, show prospect or pet have the very best life they can. Money should not be the primary concern of a good show breeder or any breeder who truly loves their dogs.

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie

Maybe you and Maxwell found each other for a reason...you both need each other. You need him to help you get through your illness and he needs you to help him through his.

Who knows what would have happened to him had someone else adopted him. Would they have taken him to the vet right away to even know he was sick?? Would they have wanted or been able to do the surgery?? Who knows what would have happened if the breeder had said yes to returning him for a refund when you originally ask for it...would she have got him medical help?? Would she just put him to sleep, or would she just adopt him out to some other unsuspecting person?? Had anything happened differently....who knows what the fate of this little guy would be.


Try not to stress out too much and let the powers that be(AKC, YTCA, and the BBB) take care of the breeder. The show/breeding community isn't very big and world will travel fast about the way she's handled everything.

I am hoping you get some good news tomorrow on Max's condition. Hopefully, it hasn't impacted his other eye yet. I am sure once you get him through this trying time, he will return the favor tenfold by being your devoted companion who will sit by your side, giving unconditional love and affection while you battle your own illness. It's truly amazing how healing and soothing the love of an animal can be. I hope you get to experience that magic with Max.

My Do examined me yesterday and his findings didn't make him feel inclined to think I needed a sick puppy. I am confined to bed, and I see very little of Maxwell. He is just additional work now for my husband, who already has all of the work on him.

The stress has made sure that I will require a partial bowel resection. If not a full colostomy. (We have the appt. with our Attorney on Wednesday to draft my Living Trust and DNR, at my G.I. Doc's advice.)

And it has caused my MS to progress to the point, that I am not walking very well. So, now my husband has to get me out of bed, etc.

I understand what you are saying about what might have happened to him, but it is not going to be good for him, if he ends up in a home without me in it.

I don't think we are going to get good news on Maxwell's left eye tomorrow-we are seeing white pus now.

And my husband said when he cleaned Maxwell's eyes this morning, his right eye is still red with inflammation.

So, surgery is more than likely in this little puppy's future.

And we still have all the work of filing the complaints, which believe me, we will do each and every one of them.

[yorkiemini]

Has anyone seen any vet reports.

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

How can Judy appropriately respond to anything without documentation of the accusations?
Look at the posts... You all have taken words not actual finding and judged. Judy had explained to me that taking the puppy back and issuing a refund was an option given to the OP. I understand this is hearsay and I am asking you not to judge someone on that very same thing, my apologies.

Your friend Judy lied to you, because she sent my husband a nasty e-mail telling him that she had a contract for a reason and she said she would not give him a refund, to bring Max back and she would give him the female.

He didn't even ask her to reimburse us for the medical bills, which for the
1st two visits were close to $250.00.

How come your friend hasn't come on here and said she offered us a refund?

If she had offered us a refund, I wouldn't have posted my review, and I had absolutely no reason to lie and say that Maxwell has Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia, and had yeast infections in both ears, and Giadia!!!

[Yorkieville200]

Originally Posted by Dixies Mom

How can Judy appropriately respond to anything without documentation of the accusations?
Look at the posts... You all have taken words not actual finding and judged. Judy had explained to me that taking the puppy back and issuing a refund was an option given to the OP. I understand this is hearsay and I am asking you not to judge someone on that very same thing, my apologies.

This is the e-mail that Judy sent to my husband.

You know I am very disappointed . I have a contract for a reason. You knew that when you bought Max .I really like Shelia and I am sorry for her illness. I have mailed AKC papers to you and the ownership can't be changed until you register him and then return the papers to me . I never give papers on a puppy until they are spayed or netured but I did it for Shelia . You have told me I did not send the real picture of Treasure which you saw her when you were here !Basically you have called me a liar .Now you want a refund , not a replacement puppy? I still have the tiny female and 1 other small male . I.will let you have either one of them . I will take Max back but by my contracts terms . I am sorry but that is all I will do .if I had known he had any problems at all I would of never offered him to you . If you want to return him let me know what day so someone is here.

[Dixies Mom]

Originally Posted by Yorkieville200

Your friend Judy lied to you, because she sent my husband a nasty e-mail telling him that she had a contract for a reason and she said she would not give him a refund, to bring Max back and she would give him the female.

He didn't even ask her to reimburse us for the medical bills, which for the
1st two visits were close to $250.00.

How come your friend hasn't come on here and said she offered us a refund?

If she had offered us a refund, I wouldn't have posted my review, and I had absolutely no reason to lie and say that Maxwell has Congenital Lacrimal Gland Aplasia, and had yeast infections in both ears, and Giadia!!!

I was going to send you a PM however, something stopped me.
My friend has no reason to lie to me. Send her the vet results, why won't you do that? When you make such accusations, you provide proof. How can Judy fix this with out all the information.
You have forced her to do nothing but follow the contract that you signed.
I am not sure of your motives in hurting Judy however, I am at a loss as why you would use your illness. I have a cancer with no cure and I would never place blame... Our lives are in Gods hands. Shame on you.