breeders i would like some assistance

[lisatodd]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

hey lisa do you think it could be the same guy that was calling my stating his business name was yorkie palace? he lives in hampton

it could be. they buy dogs from people then advertise them as "familied raised" then turn around and sell them for a much higher price. they also have financing which they make a load of money off of that. my friend went there to ck it out and said the breeds were horrible. the baby yorkies were already about 5lbs at 8 wks old. their hair very nappy or loss of hair.
they are really suckering people into their stores and told my friend they want to open up another. so they are really trying to get more stock.
the mother of a girl my boy just stud got a call from a man seeking to purchase all of her yorkies at a discounted rate. she came to find out it was this puppy palace.

what people will do to make a buck.

[tammy8833]

it probably was the same guy..he was real pushy about all his questions and assumptions..i almost considered him rude, but i was half alseep and just mumbled stuff back to him, the he called me back to back all day and im hoping he gave up. i never answered his calls nor returned any. i hate t o see people treat animals like that.

[Smoochie]

Sometimes theres an add in the paper Yorkies for sale. The guy is in Richmond and is a broker.I called the number before I got my babies. When I started asking him questions he was very rude. Hey Neighbors

[tammy8833]

theres one ad that is advertising, small breed pups call now

then i called an ad that said akc pom's 200.00 i called and the lady was giving puppy shots at 4 weeks old!! as far as i know no vet will do that!! her poms were going to be 15lbs. they sounded big for poms

HOWDY NEIGHBORS

[jeanief]

Don't ever be afraid to tell people NO!! You are responsible for finding loving homes for your babies. If people get mad, so what! Have them sign a spay/neuter contract. You can also ask for a spay/neuter deposit and when they prove that it's been done by a vet you will refund the money. I just had to tell someone no for one of my babies. She was shocked, but I could tell her husband didn't want the pup and so the deal was off.

[xxmxaxrxyxx]

Originally Posted by jeanief

Don't ever be afraid to tell people NO!! You are responsible for finding loving homes for your babies. If people get mad, so what! Have them sign a spay/neuter contract. You can also ask for a spay/neuter deposit and when they prove that it's been done by a vet you will refund the money. I just had to tell someone no for one of my babies. She was shocked, but I could tell her husband didn't want the pup and so the deal was off.

i second this!

[tammy8833]

Thanks,...thankfully he never called back....i have deposits on two puppies from really nice families all the contracts have been signed. so i only have one puppy left, a wittle boy!

[HighlandYorkies]

Originally Posted by cutiepieyorkies

i have to agree with not selling mixed breed dogs but to each there own

I have seen this written on this forum quite a few times in the past, and was just wondering WHY ?
I am not trying to be rude here, but I really want to know about why the US is so against mixed breeds ? You see, over here, in the UK, mixed breeds are a breed themselves, and are actually preferred by most, as they have less health issues than a pure breed dog, which is common agreed knowledge, even with Vets. Also, pure breeds end up with the Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) just as much as any mixed breed, and mixed breeds are often easier to home as they are usually more placid, and not highly strung like some pure breeds.
Here, the cross breed is commanding about two thirds of the price of a pure breed, and some like Jackapoos, Labradoodles, etc, are highly sought after.

Please enlighten me as to the issues that you have with (what we consider) the humble mixed breed in the US, compared to over here in the UK.......
Is it just that being a huge country you just have too many dogs in shelters in general, and don't want to add to the population of unwanted dogs, or is there something else I am not aware of !
I am really curious.... Hope you don't mind me asking - I don't want to start an issue here....I just don't understand what is going on in your country and would like to be enlightened.
Thanks for anything you can tell me I am really interested to know what the issues are.
Debra x x x x

....and by the way - everyone is right about this man - sounds creepy to me !

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by HighlandYorkies

I have seen this written on this forum quite a few times in the past, and was just wondering WHY ?
I am not trying to be rude here, but I really want to know about why the US is so against mixed breeds ? You see, over here, in the UK, mixed breeds are a breed themselves, and are actually preferred by most, as they have less health issues than a pure breed dog, which is common agreed knowledge, even with Vets. Also, pure breeds end up with the Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) just as much as any mixed breed, and mixed breeds are often easier to home as they are usually more placid, and not highly strung like some pure breeds.
Here, the cross breed is commanding about two thirds of the price of a pure breed, and some like Jackapoos, Labradoodles, etc, are highly sought after.

Please enlighten me as to the issues that you have with (what we consider) the humble mixed breed in the US, compared to over here in the UK.......
Is it just that being a huge country you just have too many dogs in shelters in general, and don't want to add to the population of unwanted dogs, or is there something else I am not aware of !
I am really curious.... Hope you don't mind me asking - I don't want to start an issue here....I just don't understand what is going on in your country and would like to be enlightened.
Thanks for anything you can tell me I am really interested to know what the issues are.
Debra x x x x

....and by the way - everyone is right about this man - sounds creepy to me !

Debra,

You are so lucky.....here we aren't.

While they are the breed for the moment, commanding high prices and the famous are buying them up. The are just the flavor of the month.....Statistically in the US they end up in the pound, rescue or a shelter. The numbers are high. Not that they aren't wonderful dogs, it's the owners that are a problem....they tire of them.

[HighlandYorkies]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Debra,

You are so lucky.....here we aren't.

While they are the breed for the moment, commanding high prices and the famous are buying them up. The are just the flavor of the month.....Statistically in the US they end up in the pound, rescue or a shelter. The numbers are high. Not that they aren't wonderful dogs, it's the owners that are a problem....they tire of them.

Oh Mardelin - that sounds so sad - so you are telling me that they are a fashion thing and when not wanted people dump them for the next fashion thing ! That is terrible ! .....And I take it your animal shelters are full of last years fad, right ? How awful !
Well I can see why rescues get so annoyed at loads of cross puppies - lets just hope that many nice rescue people will then go and give them a life home ! I knew that happened with Yorkies and other tiny pure breeds, but I didn't know it was happening with crosses. Over here, people who tend to buy crosses are DOG PEOPLE and will keep them for life.....I hope that doesn't start to happen here then !
Thankyou so much for explaining !

[tammy8833]

just my little ole two cent...lol

in there years of doing shelter work rarely do we have the small breed mixes in. most people do keep them. the only time i have ever seen small breeds wether mixed or not was a dog who had a severe health problem or is extremely old and needs more attention then the average 9-5er can give. im sure there are instances when im wrong..but the smaller breeds are always wanted and the crosses are becoming more and more poplar and one day some of these may be recongized as purebred. every dog starts from scratch..and the breeders work on perfecting it to a breed that is desired.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by HighlandYorkies

Oh Mardelin - that sounds so sad - so you are telling me that they are a fashion thing and when not wanted people dump them for the next fashion thing ! That is terrible ! .....And I take it your animal shelters are full of last years fad, right ? How awful !
Well I can see why rescues get so annoyed at loads of cross puppies - lets just hope that many nice rescue people will then go and give them a life home ! I knew that happened with Yorkies and other tiny pure breeds, but I didn't know it was happening with crosses. Over here, people who tend to buy crosses are DOG PEOPLE and will keep them for life.....I hope that doesn't start to happen here then !
Thankyou so much for explaining !

Yorkies in the past were never or rarely to be found in shelters, rescue. Now being the #2 Breed in the US....I've been seeing them more and more.

But, yes they are the fashion of the day......it's sad but, true......There is a lady here in Texas that does small breed rescue, she has foster homes all over Texas.....those homes are always full.

[BamaFan121s]

Mardelin--

The type 'fad' you are describing reminds me of a few years back when Disney released 102 Dalmations. It was a HUGE hit with the kids and guess what everyone got for Christmas....yep, Dalmations! And guess where they ended up? Likewise when Disney released Finding Nemo there was a run on the pet stores for clown fish. I remember stores here couldn't keep them stocked.

(I'm thinking maybe it was Disney's fault...just kidding.)

Similar situation I am afraid. Sadly, aside from the crossbreeding, I am afraid this is what will end up happening to Yorkies when they drop from #2. A few years ago, I never heard of a Maltipoo or a Morkie or any of these other lovely terms being used.

[jazzygirl]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

just my little ole two cent...lol

in there years of doing shelter work rarely do we have the small breed mixes in. most people do keep them. the only time i have ever seen small breeds wether mixed or not was a dog who had a severe health problem or is extremely old and needs more attention then the average 9-5er can give. im sure there are instances when im wrong..but the smaller breeds are always wanted and the crosses are becoming more and more poplar and one day some of these may be recongized as purebred. every dog starts from scratch..and the breeders work on perfecting it to a breed that is desired.

I have had the exact same experience during my years of being a volunteer at our local animal shelter.
The small breed dogs have a waiting list of pre approved homes. They are essentially guaranteed a home before we even get them! It does not matter if they are a pure breed or a designer fashion mixed breed dog!
They remain in the shelter for the required 10 days, for the former owner to claim them and then any additional days if spaying or neutering is necessary, and then they are gone. The small breed dogs never even make it to be advertised for adoption because we have so many waiting & approved homes for them. This is regardless if they are the new flavor of the month designer breed dog or a pure bred dog. If it is a small breed dog--they are gone. ALWAYS!!!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by jazzygirl

I have had the exact same experience during my years of being a volunteer at our local animal shelter.
The small breed dogs have a waiting list of pre approved homes. They are essentially guaranteed a home before we even get them! It does not matter if they are a pure breed or a designer fashion mixed breed dog!
They remain in the shelter for the required 10 days, for the former owner to claim them and then any additional days if spaying or neutering is necessary, and then they are gone. The small breed dogs never even make it to be advertised for adoption because we have so many waiting & approved homes for them. This is regardless if they are the new flavor of the month designer breed dog or a pure bred dog. If it is a small breed dog--they are gone. ALWAYS!!!

That's interesting. I wonder if it is a regional thing. It's just the opposite here. The smaller dogs are the ones you have a problem placing here--the bigger dogs are more likely to get a home. And shelters here usually place the adults easier than puppies. I had a shelter employee tell me not long ago that any dog that comes through their doors that looks like a lab or has lab in it never stays that long. She says that is why when they have adoption days at PetSmart they are sure to take a few of them because they know they can place them.