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10-28-2013, 04:07 PM | #46 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR. USA
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| HEY THIS IS THE OP WITH AN UPDATE! So first I'd like to say wow thank you for the abundance of replies and attention! Due to the large number of replies since my last post, I decided to post my update first and then read them all, so ill get to any questions I might miss in this post shortly. ANYWAY! So I went to a doggy gynecologist specialist and got some questions answered as well as some scans done. She said my pup is roughly 5 weeks along, and that an emergency spay would be more dangerous than a csection (if needed) at this point. So we are going to continue with the pregnancy and pray for the best. The scan showed 3 puppies (thank god it wasn't 1-2) and I guess she also said there was a spot where a 4th one was that got absorbed or something like that, which she noted was fairly common with dogs. Due date is between Nov11-Nov13 give or take 2 days, so Nov9-Nov15. We have another appointment on the 6th or 7th to check up things, make a decision, etc.. In the meantime I am making a whelping box for her to get used to just in case. I will keeep you all updated. |
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10-28-2013, 04:13 PM | #47 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR. USA
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| Here we go replying to what I missed.. MIMIMOMO - I am NOT contributing to overpopulation of dogs without homes and everything else you made me feel guilty for - we intend to keep every single pup that isn't accounted for by friends etc. So please don't guilt trip me and make me feel like I'm doing something I'm not. |
10-28-2013, 04:16 PM | #48 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR. USA
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| Um I'm not sure why my other post didn't show up prior to that one, with all the updates, but ill give it a little while and it should show up soon once approved or whatnot. |
10-28-2013, 04:30 PM | #49 | |
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Whether or not you feel guilt or not is irrelevant. Facts are facts and too many animals die because the people who own them aren't responsible with their breeding practices. Hopefully, the friends you give the dogs to will be responsible enough to spay and neuter rather than continuing the cycle.
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10-28-2013, 06:26 PM | #50 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| You could be setting your female up for a death sentence if you don't spay her ASAP.
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
10-28-2013, 06:28 PM | #51 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
10-28-2013, 06:36 PM | #52 | |
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10-28-2013, 06:56 PM | #53 | |
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10-28-2013, 08:33 PM | #54 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| I am stunned and amazed this pup has not been spayed already. If I had ONE person that had more knowledge and experience in any given topic or subject, than I had, and they told me my little girl could EASILY DIE if she continued on a particular path, I would have had my baby's treatment plan adjusted to assure she would not die from some ridiculous "squew-up" on MY part. I was checking back in to see how she was doing following her spay.....apparently I overestimated .......things....how sad, how sad........ |
10-29-2013, 12:28 AM | #55 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR. USA
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| OP HERE.. Rhetts & Mimi - I understand where you are coming from, but that's an invalid point if the friends I'm giving puppies to wouldnt have otherwise gotten another dog. The only reason they want one is because of the parents they are coming from. Thus, your point (although a sad fact in some cases) is not true in my case. I am not causing any other dogs to remain homeless or get put down. I think that's a pretty big stretch for you to even suggest me carrying that guilt. But again, I understand that in SOME cases it may be true. To the rest of you - Yes this was unplanned, and yes she should have been spayed. But let myour te one last time that she is 5-6 weeks along already! We didnt even realize that she may be pregnant until fairly recently (in the last 1-2 weeks). I did exactly what you all suggested and saw a vet (in fact a doggy gyno/pregnancy specialist office) and I asked many questions and we explored all options, and she was very confident in saying that spaying her (at this point) would be more dangerous than continuing the pregnancy. Otherwise I wouldve elected for an emergency spay. Now listen, I appreciate all of your input, and respect your opinions as I know many of you are long-time breeders with lots of experience. I also fully understand there are risks. But AT THIS POINT is it not true that spaying her would be equally as dangerous? I can't help but believe what the specialist told me, however if any of you disagree with her and think she is wrong, please tell me! But also please make sure you understand why she said what she said - my pup is pretty far along, so I can understand where she's coming from. Again, the pregnancy was obviously not planned, yes I should've taken better precaution, yes I wish I had noticed sooner, and yes its an unfortunate circumstance, but at this point and time (5-6 weeks in) is it not true that a spay would be just as dangerous if not more dangerous than continuing the pregnancy with care? All input and opinions are welcome and appreciated. But PLEASE, READ my ENTIRE post first. Thanks |
10-29-2013, 06:57 AM | #56 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas
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| Under the circumstances, the pregnancy is FAR riskier than a spay. If you continue with the pregnancy, you better have $$$$ saved up for an emergency c-section and be prepared to lose her. Have your schedule completely cleared because if she dies you will need to provide 24/7 care to the pups, feeding every 2 hours around the clock. You will need a friend lined up to help you do this so that you can get a nap once in a while.
__________________ Life is merrier with a Yorkshire Terrier! Jezebel & Chuy ... RIP: Barkley Loosie & Sassy Last edited by OwnedByJezebel; 10-29-2013 at 06:59 AM. |
10-29-2013, 07:14 AM | #57 |
♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| I would be getting a second opinion regarding spay vs. pregnancy with this large father and possibly larger still dogs in his background that could produce a huge puppy. Very risky for a 4 lb. female to have ANY pups, even those of a smaller line than her own, and this poor girl is carrying pups from a dog more than twice her size and who knows what size his grandfather/mother were!
__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
10-29-2013, 10:26 AM | #58 |
♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| I have no advice. I am a little surprised at the vets response but I will be praying hard for your little girl. I cannot even imagine how hard this will be on her.
__________________ CharleneMama to Laddy and Kyra and Always in our hearts Lolita |
10-29-2013, 11:49 AM | #59 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR. USA
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| I can't help but be afraid of the things you are all saying. And although there are risks, I can't help but trust the opinions of 2 different vets/specialists. They agree its not optimal, and she should've been spayed, but at this point the best option is to continue with the pregnancy with caution. That spaying this far along is just as risky. |
10-29-2013, 12:09 PM | #60 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
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