My 4lb yorkie is pregnant by my 10lb yorkie! First timer.. Help!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Ginas_babys

I also apreciate forums, I have been a member of YT for 9 years (couldent remember my last username and had to make a new one after lurking for a VERY long time - like 5 years), BUT, in cases like this, I DO think it´s alot better to get to a vet ASAP.The reasons? We do not know how far along the dog is..she could be half way through her pregnancy by now and she needs to be examined.In these cases where the breeding is accidental and the male is more than half the bitches size, I personally would want to hear what my vet thinks and then I´d double check with a forum

I´m not saying the info on here in useless (I have used alot of it for YEARS!) but when the dog in question could be in danger, I think a run to the vet first is VERY important.
I also don´t want to scare this person away, again, this is why I am repeating that he/she might be more comfortable with her vet.

Heck, I came here when I was in doubt about Bellas PLANNED pregnancy because my vet was on vacaction and I had to wait a little to see him, but once he came back, it was him I turned to and him I trusted because he is the one here with me and he is the one who knows my dog, has her records, ran the tests beforehand etc etc.

I am not and never have pooped on anything any of you have said or suggested.I just see certain things a little differently

Perhaps admin could help you find the old username?

[Ginas_babys]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I am not obsessed or fixated on anything. I merely commented because your opening sentence set what I believe was an unecessary theme. While, yes, I did read the rest of your post, I must say that after seeing that, it took a lot of work on my part. And, then if not enough, you did it again in your last paragraph.
Food for thought.

I said that she/he shouldent take offense of any awnsers? Yes.I said that (twice), and I hope the OP doesnt take offense and decides to stick around so we find out what happens.
As for telling her/him to get to a vet ASAP instead of asking about "what to prepare" on a forum, yes, I said that too.Again, why did that not meet your criteria? Was it wrong? Should I have congratulated her? Told her to set up a whelping box and that everything would be fine? THAT would have been awful too...everything I say seems to be.

It´s very obvious at this point that WHATEVER I say will be critisized.Proof? Read my first post on this thread and then read this one by bjh waaay after mine:

Originally Posted by bjh

Did anyone actually see her and the male tied? Do you know approximately when she came in heat? What are the dates of the week in question?
Is she showing signs of pregnancy? Have you talked to a vet? We need more detail before we can give better advise.

As for the dangers to your female, yes it can be very dangerous for her. You should not try to go this alone or just depend on internet help. If she is indeed pregnant you need guidance for a vet that is familiar with small breeds and it would be very helpful if you could find another breeder nearby that can help you. Ideally if your female is not very far along you should think seriously about getting her spayed. You would need to talk to your vet about that possibility.

Different words, but THAT IS WHAT I WROTE TOO.
So yes, you deffinately are just fixating on me and not on what I write.
Obviously, no matter what, anything and everything I write will catch your attention imediately and you will take apart my posts and make it them into something awful.
You arent even reading what I write, or we wouldent be having this conversation.

[Lovetodream88]

This could be very dangerous for your female I think you should get to the vet and get an emergency spay done on your female. I will keep her in my prayers. Please come back and update us. We do care very much for your girl.

[mimimomo]

General rule of thumb when it comes to breeding is (not in any particular order):
1. NEVER breed a 4# or less female.

2. NEVER breed to a bigger male. But there's more to it than this, you NEED to know what's behind both their lines from generations back.

3. ONLY breed a female on her 2nd heat or when she reaches 2 years old. This is so she's prepared mentally & physically to whelp & raise her pups. More so that her pelvic bones are fully grown to handle pushing out those puppies on her own.

4. You NEED to research 1st b4 you breed. You have lots of reading, learning & preparing to do. Glad you found us & hope you'll learn loads, your girl's life depends on it!

5. You NEED to find a mentor. Someone with experience to help guide you through the whelping. If not, seek help from an experienced vet tech. You also need to be prepared for an emergency c-section if needed. Esp IN your case, since your male is bigger & the bigger gene is in him.

6. A typical person breeding their pet dogs are called Back Yard Breeders. YOU are a BYB'er now...know that you are contributing to the overpopulation of unwanted homeless pets & for every pup you produce, you're sending hundreds more to their deaths everyday. It's up to you now to either become an advocate for these poor souls w/out voices or continue being a BYB'er.

7. Leave breeding to the professionals. The ones who do it right, doing all the available health & genetic testings, the ones that do it to improve the breed. They know their pedigree, the genetics, the temperament, generations back. They are the ethical reputable breeders, Kudos to them.

This is a public online forum, you WILL get all kinds of opinions & answers, more so towards the side of dogs/ Yorkies. What you do w/that info is what matters bc your girl's life is IN your hands.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by Ginas_babys

I said that she/he shouldent take offense of any awnsers? Yes.I said that (twice), and I hope the OP doesnt take offense and decides to stick around so we find out what happens.
As for telling her/him to get to a vet ASAP instead of asking about "what to prepare" on a forum, yes, I said that too.Again, why did that not meet your criteria? Was it wrong? Should I have congratulated her? Told her to set up a whelping box and that everything would be fine? THAT would have been awful too...everything I say seems to be.

It´s very obvious at this point that WHATEVER I say will be critisized.Proof? Read my first post on this thread and then read this one by bjh waaay after mine:



Different words, but THAT IS WHAT I WROTE TOO.
So yes, you deffinately are just fixating on me and not on what I write.
Obviously, no matter what, anything and everything I write will catch your attention imediately and you will take apart my posts and make it them into something awful.
You arent even reading what I write, or we wouldent be having this conversation.

Why don't you just let it go...this ISN'T about you!

[Ginas_babys]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

Why don't you just let it go...this ISN'T about you!

YOU let it go.You´re right, is is NOT about me.So why not leave ME alone?

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by Ginas_babys

YOU let it go.You´re right, is is NOT about me.So why not leave ME alone?

What does this have to do w/me? You keep posting about it...then why do it if it's not about you.

[lynzy420]

Gina we've danced this dance before, I was a proofreader for 7 years...your the same person you were a few months ago, and your coming after me was so familiar that I've even said it before to others that this is someone I've dealt with before....your verbage gives you away and then the whole 9 years ago....thing...whatever

I know several members here where we have had twisted and turned and argued, fought, and made up and started all over again. I don't know why you left in February or why you've come back as someone else only to argue with the same people as before, it wasn't really that deep....we have different beliefs and opinions and clearly you really don't like that....I am especially upset that you once again choose the same respected members, especially Linda who is open to difference of opinion to go after, I don't get it. What really is the point? We were at a disadvantage the whole time and other people got hurt in this process on the other thread...Questions. Wow.

I save threads in my favorites sometimes...I saved our last thread together...I am really sad here.

You didn't forget your old user name cuz you signed on it in September that was easy enough to see, I don't understand the point at all.

Also some of the things you said before really don't jive with what you say now. I've wasted my time as have others, credibility in my eyes is 0.

[Ginas_babys]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

What does this have to do w/me? You keep posting about it...then why do it if it's not about you.

Because EVERYTIME I write a post, someone in this little clique pops up and picks at everything I write, even when I write exactly what they do but with different words.
It´s like kindergarden in here.I havent contradicted anyone and still you are coming back with ways to critisize my EVERY word now matter what I say.

I am not the one making snarky comebacks, but I´m not the YT doormat either.When someone quotes ME in a post, I am entitled to defend myself.
When you stop quoting me, I wont have to keep doing this.

[Ginas_babys]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

you away and then the whole 9 years ago....thing...whatever

I will awnser this and I´m done
Yes, I was here nine years ago, with members like Villette, GypsyRose (her dog was gypsy rose and Gizzy) Roxy, Deedee (her dog was called Flea) Judge Pepper who sadly died etc etc
The list goes on and you can actually get in touch with those members (I think V came back a few weeks ago?).

I was an active member and ended up leaving after one of my dogs died (Jess).Then I lurked and read and just hung about until we got Milo and Bella.
Want to find those old members? Ask someone who´s been around that long and they will remember them and then those members will remember me.Its as simple as that

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Ginas_babys

I will awnser this and I´m done
Yes, I was here nine years ago, with members like Villette, GypsyRose (her dog was gypsy rose and Gizzy) Roxy, Deedee (her dog was called Flea) Judge Pepper who sadly died etc etc
The list goes on and you can actually get in touch with those members (I think V came back a few weeks ago?).

I was an active member and ended up leaving after one of my dogs died (Jess).Then I lurked and read and just hung about until we got Milo and Bella.
Want to find those old members? Ask someone who´s been around that long and they will remember them and then those members will remember me.Its as simple as that

I'm not playing games anymore with you. So you had 3 usernames? Two this year. You need to discuss this with Admin or Ann or Jenny not me.

[mimimomo]

Look who's acting like a kindergartener...I'm not quoting or asking a question, so maybe you wont respond this time.
You said: "please don´t take offense to the awnsers you may get" & "Again, please don´t take offense to any of the awnsers"
YOU put YOURSELF in the spotlight! You HAVE "contradicted & criticized" all the "CLIQUEY" members here...YOUR words, not mine.

[impish]

STOP - TAKE THIS SOMEPLACE ELSE. FOR GODS SAKE.

TO the OP. I know it's hard to discern who the breeders are but go to the YTCA website and find a few names and give the breeders a call. There are also three breeders who have replied to this thread and are absolutely correct - your situation is a disaster waiting to happen.

We care about yorkies and about your girl.

I'm in Portland. PM me with your contact info and I'll give you call and we can talk. I know some names of people you could call too.

Ultimately they will probably suggest you have an emergency spay. Risk wise it's the safest thing. Money wise it's the smartest thing too.

One posted said vets won't always know the best thing regarding Yorkies and this is true. Make sure you go to a Breeder's vet. A vet who serves a Yorkie breeder. Very important.

Good luck for your girl.

[Ginas_babys]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

I'm not playing games anymore with you. So you had 3 usernames? Two this year. You need to discuss this with Admin or Ann or Jenny not me.

What on earth are you talking about? I have had 2 usernames, one back when I joined after buying my first yorkie and then this new one that I have now..I signed up at the beggining of september...? (need to check that).

I dont even have the same e-mail address I had back then (9 years ago), so getting back into my old account was impossible.I dont know the password and I can´t remember what my name was (I have tried the names I used to use and they didnt work).

Maybe you should stop looking for terrorists on a DOG FORUM...what on earth is the matter with you???
I am seriously waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out and scream "Punkd"

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

There are vets out there, that have actually advised people on here, that a 3-4 lb Yorkie should have NO problems whelping a litter of puppies....so if I were you, I would listen to people that breed Yorkies for many, many years, and know the reality of breeding, the good, the bad, as well as the ugly. On a good day, this breeding you have, is a disaster looking for a place to happen. There are soooooo many really important dates that you have NO idea about......this is not acceptable or consucive to whelping a healthy litter and ending up with live puppies and a female that survives. You need to have this disaster of a breeding, emergently terminated, ASAP, before you loose the entire shooting match. You have a mix breed Yorkie....mixed with WHAT????? You may have German Shepherds behind that boy.....it is not so much the size of the male, as it is WHAT IS BEHIND HIM, AND THE FEMALE AS WELL, IN THEIR PEDIGREE!!!!!! If you care at all about your little girl, you will do this FOR HER!!!! She is too small to be bred safely in the first place....you have no idea what is behind those dogs, and if the babies are large, you will have to have a c-section, and if you are lucky, she will survive....You have NO experience in emergent care of orphaned puppies, so you will have a really hard time saving the babies as well.....

Excellent advice from an EXPERIENCED breeder.