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04-04-2013, 12:41 AM | #61 |
♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| I have been debating whether to share this story with you but feel I should. Many years ago when I was in my early 20's (old lady now lol) We had the most precious little tiny beagle. She was bred by a larger dog. I too thought wth its puppies mother nature will do its job. We lived 40 miles from the nearest vet. I stood and watched in shock and horror as our precious little girl literally bled to death. All the time yelling and crying into the phone with my vet who could not of gotten there in time. 3 of the pups were breach and the others didn't survive. It was the most heartbreaking thing I have ever had to watch. I just don't want to see you have to go through anything like this. Yes now I am older and would of taken her in to have her pups but at the time I didn't have a clue and no internet to ask advice from those who did.
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04-04-2013, 04:41 AM | #62 | |
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I wondered the same thing when I read your original post...what kind of owner has 2 unfixed dogs in the house and allows them to mate because they missed eachother? It sounds cold, but its true? Your pup is already at high risk, your pup mated with a "bigger" pup, your pup is "bigger" as well...there are some very serious issues that can occur here because of this alone and more. We have all seen these situations end up in tragedy...too many times...this is not about you at this point its about your pup, your no more able to whelp a pup than you are to deliver your grandchild...please do the right thing. One merely needs to go to Deb's website, google her name etc., to know she is a well respected pup; quite frankly her offer beyond gracious. No one said your a bad pet owner, no one. Your an uneducated breeder and this is very dangerous for your pup. I hope you stick around and if nothing more, read and read some more. The vet 1.5 hrs away? You better schedule a C-Section...it will be safer than taking such a high risk... Good Luck.
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04-04-2013, 05:37 AM | #63 | |
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04-04-2013, 05:44 AM | #64 |
I love TBCG! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD
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| Deb that is so awesome of you to help. Whether it be by phone, skype or taking her and whelping yourself, I appreciate that you have offered to do whatever you can to help
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04-04-2013, 05:59 AM | #65 |
♥Trained by my pups♥ Donating YT 500 Club Member | Okay you have been offered great help. I do understand you worried about leaving your dog with a complete stranger. You do not know her any more then someone walking down the street. Once you have been on this site you will understand everyone's concern. Through the years many have came on with your very same story. Many have lost the momma and pups. This is where all this concern comes from. With these little dogs whelping is much different then with the larger breeds. Many more problems can happen. Deb has offered you a great gift for you and your momma along with Carmen. I can tell you from experience of whelping a yorkie you want someone there be it on Skype or in person.. Because questions will arise. I would not want to change her surroundings so close to the whelp. She needs to feel very comfy so she can relax and concentrate on having these pups. Please keep us updated We all do care and the longer you are on this site you will understand us a little
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04-04-2013, 06:03 AM | #66 | |
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04-04-2013, 07:55 AM | #67 |
Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas
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| Personally I think everyone is being way to harsh on the OP. It is great that Deb has offered to help. The degree of help Deb gives should be between her and the OP. There are many things to consider and the OP has several options. She might be more comfortable trying to find someone that can come to her home to help. Perhaps someone that breeds dogs in her area. I feel it would be very hard on the expectant momma to take her away from her home and put her with a complete stranger just days before she is going to have puppies. Just that in itself could cause her to have her pups prematurely. But if the OP is really set on being with her daughter when her grandchild is born then letting Deb keep the momma and her babies for awhile would be an option to consider. To the OP, having a litter is a huge responsibility as you well know. The birthing part is just the beginning. You have to be prepared for 10 to 12 weeks of work in caring for the momma and her babies. So many things can happen. You won't be able to leave her for long periods of time. If she is use to traveling and being around other people then she would probably adjust just fine with Deb or if you took her with you after the pups are born. The decision is up to you. You know your girl better than anyone. I do hope you talk to Deb. There is so much to learn about whelping and raising a litter you just can't learn it all by reading about it online. Please keep us informed. We are all a very caring and concerned YT community and we pray for the best for your girl.
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04-04-2013, 09:30 AM | #68 |
YT Featured Breeder Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon
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| OP; I'm sorry I caused a problem! I honestly was only thinking of your female, and a way for you to see your new grandbaby. I'm afraid I didn't take your feelings into consideration. I didn't realize that you would be worried about me being a stranger. Please stick around, I have no doubt you will become one of us. You obviously love your girl, and trying to make the best of a bad situation. We are a passionate group, and the fear of what could happen to your female is a reality, of which none of us are elaborating. I do admire you are trying to take responsibility, and staying home with her. You may be just fine, but things can get pretty scary pretty quickly. Be sure to use your "gut" feeling that something may be wrong.. it usually is. I am thrilled you're not taking her on a road trip. That was my biggest concern when you first posted. I wish you a happy, successful whelp! Please call me if you need me! |
04-04-2013, 09:53 AM | #69 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | Wow, Amazing in dead. I wish I had such an offer when I first started out. That is an amazing offer by (Deb) of Amazing Yorkies, if I were you I would take her up on it. For her to offer to help you (a compleat stranger) in ways that a first time breeder could only dream of. I was not so lucky but thankfully YT and this wonderful community of knowledgeable and caring members was here when I had questions. Senne: I've only been breeding for six short years and even I would never consider taking a pregnant female that is due on a road trip. Unless that road trip was to the emergency vets office. I would suggest that you do not take your pregnant female with you on your trip to see your grandchild be born. By taking a pregnant dog on a road trip during the last two weeks of pregnancy will put additional stress on the puppies and the mother. That stress could and more than likely will cause issues during her whelp. Just think, It is no different than your daughter not traveling during her last few weeks of pregnancy. If you take her, you are choosing to put her in a stressful situation and putting her life and the life of her pups at risk. I don't know any responsible pet owner who would do that. I know that having this dilemma is not easy. You cant be in two places at the same time. I know that the birth of a grand child is a really big deal. But the safety of your pregnant female and her unborn pups is equally as important. I defiantly would hate to be in your situation. You can clearly see that there are well educated breeders and members here that care and that have offered you solutions to your dilemma. If you choose to leave your pup with anyone while you leave why not the best. Consider this, you take her with you, she gets stressed and is now in need of an emergency c-section and you are in a strange vets office with people who you are not familiar with. Then receive a bill of thousands of dollars. Now consider that all of that could have been avoided by leaving her in the hands of a reputable breeder and you return home a new grandmother and to a nursing mother and three healthy pups. You still have time to get yourself and your female acquainted with Deb before your trip. You still have time to discuss pros and cons and what to expect. By leaving your gal with a responsible, knowledgeable and reputable breeder does not make you a bad person in any way. The way I see it is that that makes a very Lucky person!
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04-04-2013, 10:22 AM | #70 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oh, Us
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| I have to say that I do not agree with the OP, and I do not mean to attack you personally in any way. I think what everyone here is trying to tell you is that you have been given an amazing offer, and you have a choice to make... that choice seems obvious to anyone who has witnessed a difficult birth. The chance of losing the momma and pups due to inexperienced breeding is heartbreaking to anyone on this site. I know a few breeders that have bred dozens of litters and still have emergencies come up and pups dying or mothers start bleeding out. I am not going to judge you, just send prayers for the mom and puppies for a safe delivery. Also Deb I want to tell you that you are an amazing person to make such a wonderful offer, I am very glad to have people like you in the world. |
04-04-2013, 10:38 AM | #71 | |
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04-04-2013, 10:43 AM | #72 | |
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04-04-2013, 10:46 AM | #73 | |
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04-04-2013, 11:36 AM | #74 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | Correction: Amazing in Deed / not dead !
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04-04-2013, 11:47 AM | #75 |
Cedric♥Lola♥Keylo Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Gilford, NH, USA
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| lol i was wondering on that!!!
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