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[yorkietweetie]

Originally Posted by yorkiesincommon

She is probably pregnant and today would be her 26th day. They begin to show at about 30 days. I started day 1 on the 14 of Feb. Your puppies should be due anytime after 59 days. Puppies born before 59 days may have not have had time to appropriately mature the lungs. Most yorkie puppies are born between the 60th ( 4/18) and 63rd (4/21) days. I have some info I can email you if you will send an email to mbowens@cfl.rr.com . I have delivered lots of dogs over the years and I am a retired middle school science teacher. Good Luck, Mary

thanks

[Wabbit]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Rachel -- although I disagreed with your previous advice, I do understand you gave it with a good heart. You are very passionate about people who breed without any forethought or advance preparation. So am I. I think in this case, the OP can do some speed studying and stay in close contact with her vet, and even hopefully find a mentor in time to save this situation (and hopefully all the precious lives involved). The order was not right, but we have to be careful and not have such a knee-jerk reaction that we actually destroy lives unnecessarily either.

Sometimes after so many emotionally charged situations, it does make a long-time member here a little over-wrought and words do not come out quite as we intend. I understand the frustration and have had to take breaks in the past to cool off a little and help myself focus on all the things being done right instead of the almost callous disregard some show for their pets. Keep caring as you do but a little restraint is okay too. (Listen to me -- the one who has not shown much restraint herself! Easier said than done sometimes. ).

[dawn27]

Originally Posted by yorkietweetie

Hello Dawn27, currently I cant get my yorkie to eat anything, she only eats maybe a handful of food daily. I read that they lose there appetite, but I dont no for how long.... Is it to early to feed her puppy food and do you have recommended brands for puppy food.

No it is not too early to feed her puppy food, I start my expecting mothers the same week they are breed. And I always feed them the same brand of puppy food that is offers by the same brand of food that I regularly feed them so that the change does not effect them too much. Which changing any brand suddenly will do.

[yorkietweetie]

Originally Posted by dawn27

No it is not too early to feed her puppy food, I start my expecting mothers the same week they are breed. And I always feed them the same brand of puppy food that is offers by the same brand of food that I regularly feed them so that the change does not effect them too much. Which changing any brand suddenly will do.

Ok that is what I did I got the same brand puppy food all though she is still really not eating much. I am so happy i go see the vet friday, because she is making my nerves bad.

[dawn27]

OK... WoW..so it looks like this Thread took a turn for the worst in just four short days !! I'm not sure if that is a record or not but its very common.

I am just flabbier gasped by the sudden turn that has taken effect on this thread.......

Believe me I have had to deal with my share of some of the more outspoken people here on YT but that's to be expected when it is world wide and there are all kinds of people who are patinate about so many things. And of course that is our Yorkies. Most are well intentioned people who want to help and then you have the few who for some reason do not. They just don't seem to realize how off putting it can be. YT is here for ..Everybody.. Who Owns and loves Yorkies.

We have the right to ask our questions and expect to get good/ respectful feedback without getting some whack jobs ranting and raving about "OH MY you did what?" Give me a break.... My biggest concern about TY is all of the negative input from these people and it just irritates me to no end.

Some people have gotten off track and off the topic of this thread.....
She come to us here on TY for HELP not Criticism, not for your Individual Views on abortion or what you think she should do with her pregnant Yorkie or to hear about why you think she is an unfit owner or otherwise. Seriously .... This is not the correct place for it. If you want to discuss that kind of topics than by all means start your own threat and let those type of comments be posted there. And than of course its to be expected to hear what peoples views are but not here or on any other post when someone come to us for HELP!!

She needs our help...! You should be posting informative links and help topics on the topic on hand the questions in the thread ONLY !! Save your opinions for another day another time....

[011011]

Also FYI my vet would not spay a pregnant female unless her life was in danger

My vet would not either
Goodness have not been on YT for a long time and I know why same ole thing here.

[yorkietweetie]

Originally Posted by dawn27

OK... WoW..so it looks like this Thread took a turn for the worst in just four short days !! I'm not sure if that is a record or not but its very common.

I am just flabbier gasped by the sudden turn that has taken effect on this thread.......

Believe me I have had to deal with my share of some of the more outspoken people here on YT but that's to be expected when it is world wide and there are all kinds of people who are patinate about so many things. And of course that is our Yorkies. Most are well intentioned people who want to help and then you have the few who for some reason do not. They just don't seem to realize how off putting it can be. YT is here for ..Everybody.. Who Owns and loves Yorkies.

We have the right to ask our questions and expect to get good/ respectful feedback without getting some whack jobs ranting and raving about "OH MY you did what?" Give me a break.... My biggest concern about TY is all of the negative input from these people and it just irritates me to no end.

Some people have gotten off track and off the topic of this thread.....
She come to us here on TY for HELP not Criticism, not for your Individual Views on abortion or what you think she should do with her pregnant Yorkie or to hear about why you think she is an unfit owner or otherwise. Seriously .... This is not the correct place for it. If you want to discuss that kind of topics than by all means start your own threat and let those type of comments be posted there. And than of course its to be expected to hear what peoples views are but not here or on any other post when someone come to us for HELP!!

She needs our help...! You should be posting informative links and help topics on the topic on hand the questions in the thread ONLY !! Save your opinions for another day another time....

Thanks Dawn27 you have been very very helpful

[dawn27]

Thank you and you are very welcome.....

I would start check you second hand / Good Will stores for used sheets, towels, baby blankets and whatever you can get your hands of for bedding materials. Its always good to have plenty of clean bedding on hand, they do get soiled very fast.

I'm not sure if you have given any thought on what to use for a whelping box. You will need somewhere for these to keep them safe and for the those rambunctious times when plaing for about 8-10 weeks. One good idea to use for your whelping box that would work for the first few weeks would be an under the bed storage tote. They are inexpensive and roomy enough for pup to move around when they get older. At about 10 days or so they will start to leave the bedding area to relieve themselves and than return. It is also short enough for mamma' to get in and out of. But you will need something larger at about 3 weeks old. That is when the pups will need more room to move around and play.

I actually make my whelping box myself. I made it so that it could be broken down and stored when not in use by hinging the corners. Later I had to add an additional hinged portion to top that I can flip up and latch to prevent the pups from escaping. It really was not that hard to do and the cost was about 60.00. The bulk of that being better wood choice and the hinges. But for you and a one time use, you could get by by just screwing all four corners. Maybe even adding a hinged flip down door for mamma to get in and out of.


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[Buster Brown]

Good luck with you whelping. Sending prayers for a successful whelp and healthy puppies and mom!

[kim4short]

Originally Posted by Wabbit

I completely agree!! I was shocked by that post myself!!

The OP is obviously taking good care of her female! I have problems with people that try to 'avoid' the vet at all costs! That certainly isn't the case here!

I just joined the forum today to ask questions about my dogs who have recently mated. I'm not a breeder by any means but I have 2 healthy yorkies and consulted with my vet before deciding to breed them. My purpose was because I love my dogs and wanted puppies to continue the lineage. My extended family will be "adopting" most of the litter. I was truly insulted by those blazing comments about getting her dog spayed. Jeez! How nasty. Can your dogs not mate if you're not a breeder?! How dare you!!!

[kim4short]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I agree that spaying this pregnant yorkie would not be recommended just because the owner was remiss in learning about breeding/whelping BEFORE her dogs mated. There is still time for a crash course and with careful liaison with the vet and hopefully finding a mentor, this could all have a good outcome.

Still there are SO many questions that are not answered and I worry for the answers. Are the dam and sire breeding quality? What sizes, ages, and health histories? Are they truly the best examples of the breed to be perpetuated? What are the circumstances of the breeding program? Curiosity? Making money? Or really trying to breed a better yorkie and make sure the qualities laid out in the breed standards are carried forward?

Here is one of the best sources online for info (besides Yorkietalk that is) Dog Breeding and Canine Reproduction by Debbie Jensen. Dog Breeding and Whelping guide for dog breeders. The video she sells would be a good investment but definately read all of the free info she has immediately. I would contact your nearest dog fanciers club or go to ytca.org and use their breeder referral function to find a yorkie breeder near you. Then I would beg to learn under their tutelege. If you found the breeder of your dogs knowledgable and ethical, you might try starting there. Finding someone who actually has a litter that they might let you witness being born would be a great help for you! But you can prepare yourself to help your girl by reading too. Read everything you can get your hands on. You owe it to your girl to be thoroughly prepared. They are not like a beagle or a lab -- they have been bred so small, many thing can and do go wrong. They need our help more often than not. The danger to the dam does not stop on delivery day either. You have to watch her very carefully afterwards. Many things to learn in a very short time. Good luck! Don't hesitate to ask you find a question about something you have read or experienced. Many good minds here to help!

I joined the forum to tap into some very needed information-I have the exact same situation as the other veteran yorkie mom-my dogs mated on or about my birthday sometimes around February 9-13. I consulted with my vet about breeding and continue to keep in contact with him. I was looking for some support and answers. As soon as saw that post with those hurtful comments, I thought I was in the wrong place.

[bellemarie]

Originally Posted by kim4short

I just joined the forum today to ask questions about my dogs who have recently mated. I'm not a breeder by any means but I have 2 healthy yorkies and consulted with my vet before deciding to breed them. My purpose was because I love my dogs and wanted puppies to continue the lineage. My extended family will be "adopting" most of the litter. I was truly insulted by those blazing comments about getting her dog spayed. Jeez! How nasty. Can your dogs not mate if you're not a breeder?! How dare you!!!

As im sure you noticed, I am not one of those who wanted her pups aborted... but no- you cannot have bred your dog without making you a breeder... If you deliberately have your female impregnated then you are a breeder; what kind of breeder that makes you is entirely up to you... (not specifically pointed at you, but one off breeders in general)

And yorkietweetie- is she eating any better today?

[Furbaby Friend]

Originally Posted by dawn27

OK... WoW..so it looks like this Thread took a turn for the worst in just four short days !! I'm not sure if that is a record or not but its very common.

I am just flabbier gasped by the sudden turn that has taken effect on this thread.......

Believe me I have had to deal with my share of some of the more outspoken people here on YT but that's to be expected when it is world wide and there are all kinds of people who are patinate about so many things. And of course that is our Yorkies. Most are well intentioned people who want to help and then you have the few who for some reason do not. They just don't seem to realize how off putting it can be. YT is here for ..Everybody.. Who Owns and loves Yorkies.

We have the right to ask our questions and expect to get good/ respectful feedback without getting some whack jobs ranting and raving about "OH MY you did what?" Give me a break.... My biggest concern about TY is all of the negative input from these people and it just irritates me to no end.

Some people have gotten off track and off the topic of this thread.....
She come to us here on TY for HELP not Criticism, not for your Individual Views on abortion or what you think she should do with her pregnant Yorkie or to hear about why you think she is an unfit owner or otherwise. Seriously .... This is not the correct place for it. If you want to discuss that kind of topics than by all means start your own threat and let those type of comments be posted there. And than of course its to be expected to hear what peoples views are but not here or on any other post when someone come to us for HELP!!

She needs our help...! You should be posting informative links and help topics on the topic on hand the questions in the thread ONLY !! Save your opinions for another day another time....

I'd just like to state that this is a public forum open to ALL OPINIONS. If you post on an open internet board with your story asking for input, you are going to get a mix of responses. Period.

You cannot tell people they shouldn't say certain things. They are entitled to their opinions on the matter just as you are. You are only in control of your OWN behavior. So if you feel it is important to post informative links and make certain comments, then you are free to do so. However, everyone else is free to post as they choose as well.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

I'd just like to state that this is a public forum open to ALL OPINIONS. If you post on an open internet board with your story asking for input, you are going to get a mix of responses. Period.

You cannot tell people they shouldn't say certain things. They are entitled to their opinions on the matter just as you are. You are only in control of your OWN behavior. So if you feel it is important to post informative links and make certain comments, then you are free to do so. However, everyone else is free to post as they choose as well.

I have not even read the entire thread....and honestly given that I was contacted this weekend about five homeless yorkies, you all don't want MY opinion today. And....since I know it will fall on deaf ears except for those who truly care about these little living breathing beings, I will just walk away. BUT.....I agree...ALL opinions are valid whether you like them or not! If you don't want them, don't post. There are PLENTY of ways to get help if you need it...YT is not the ONLY place. Vets and books are a good option if you don't care to hear other opinions.

[Furbaby Friend]

Originally Posted by kim4short

I just joined the forum today to ask questions about my dogs who have recently mated. I'm not a breeder by any means but I have 2 healthy yorkies and consulted with my vet before deciding to breed them. My purpose was because I love my dogs and wanted puppies to continue the lineage. My extended family will be "adopting" most of the litter. I was truly insulted by those blazing comments about getting her dog spayed. Jeez! How nasty. Can your dogs not mate if you're not a breeder?! How dare you!!!

No, your dogs cannot mate without you being a breeder because by definition you intentionally mating them MAKES you a breeder. What quality of breeder a person is depends on a lot of factors however.

From another thread:

Originally Posted by kim4short

I just joined the forum today to get some info about my Yorkie who may be pregnant. I was on another thread and got really scared and angry when another new person got blasted about breeding her dogs since she is not a breeder. I consulted with my vet before breeding my dogs and he was very supportive. My dogs mated Feb 9-14. I see no visible signs of pregnancy although I keep reading that it may be too early to tell. I'm planning on taking her to the vet within the next week to confirm it. Obviously this is my first litter and I believe it is hers too. She was abandoned by some renters who simply left her in a property that they could no longer afford. She is healthy and had all of her shots and extremly happy. The vet estimated her to be about 16 months old 3 months ago. My male dog is the same age. Any support that you can provide is greatly appreciated. I definitely want to have puppies to continue the lineage because I absolutely LOVE my dogs! Any info and support you can provide is greatly appreciated.

You don't continue the lineage of a dog just because you love them OR because they are themselves healthy and happy. It isn't about just that. There is SO much more.

You need to know the ins and outs of their genetic history to truly find out if they are of breeding quality. The histories of their dams/sires, grand dams/grand sires, and ALL of their litters, etc. should be known. Testing should be done to rule out genetic health issues.

Do you have that kind of history and research done even though your girl was abandoned? How much information do you really have on her history?

In addition, I have read that you do not truly know if they are of breeding quality until 2 years of age because there are some health problems that do not show until they are older.

I am not a breeder, but through just reading I have found out this basic information and more! I will never understand why people just stick their dogs together and THEN come doing research. This is something people should consider BEFORE breeding. Not after. There is no excuse for not doing research beforehand, especially if it isn't an accidental tie.