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03-11-2011, 05:53 AM | #31 | |
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03-11-2011, 05:58 AM | #32 | |
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03-11-2011, 06:10 AM | #33 | |
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03-11-2011, 06:22 AM | #34 |
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| Well, I certainly would never say what you should do. But I do not equate spaying a dog with aborting a live fetus. Two different arguments. But I do not think it would be totally out of the question ~ to sit back and think ~ 'Am I ready for this" and "What am I going to do with these little lives that I allowed to be created?" A little introspection about how this 'accidental' pregnancy occurred and whether you (the universal YOU ~ not you personally) are really ready to take this on. To properly place puppies; to handle the costs and dangers to your girl. No, I do not think it's out of the question to do a little soul-searching about what might be the right thing to do.
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03-11-2011, 06:28 AM | #35 | |
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03-11-2011, 06:39 AM | #36 | |
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A spay is not an option in this case as she has already said that will not be happening, so lets just get of that subject and try to offer any more Relevent advise we can, yes? If we as an online community want to stop unnessesary yorkie deaths, disregarding what the breeder is saying and trying to get them to abort a perfectly viable litter isnt exactly going about it the right way... There have been many cases lately where that has been the right thing to Suggest, but once they say an absolute no- it's time to move on. Because if this, I imagine there are so many that after reading previous threads such as this one, wont want to have to go through the same, so won't bother asking for help and assistance, possibly leading to an unnecessary death or two. Yorkietweetie, have you started to get your whelping kit together? Do you know what you are going to use as a bed for them- going with an x-pen?
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03-11-2011, 06:47 AM | #37 |
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| I wouldnt have advised spaying in this case but I think soul searching when it comes to bringing lives into this world where we have a pet overpopulation problem should be before, during and after. Its serious and it just seems some breed willy nilly and encourage others to do the same like them
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03-11-2011, 06:49 AM | #38 |
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| Oh oh now that Ive posted that care and consideration should go into breeding Ill be accused of having a radical mindset. Oh well
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03-11-2011, 07:06 AM | #39 | |
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That's not so radical is it? Do we want all new members who might be reading this thread to think that putting two dogs together - with no further forethought - and no real idea about how to whelp . . do we really want everything to think this is a great and FANTASTIC idea??? I think not. I agree - now is the time for damage control and for the OP to do the best she can with the whelp and the puppies. Do I recommend that every single person that is considering breeding their dog give it a great deal of thought, research, and consideration? I surely do. I will say no more and allow those who are willing to help this breeder, her female, and her puppies to get on with it.
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03-11-2011, 07:17 AM | #40 | |
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This was a planned breeding that my husband wanted to do. i am going out and getting some supplies this weekend. i want to try to get them together now so i am not surprised at all. Dawn27 gave me a wonderful site to go to very good site giving info on the items I need and also a image of a whelp box. I have really been reviewing this site given and others. http://www.debbiejensen.com/heat_cycle.html Any additional information that you have is greatly appreciated. i am putting funds away as well in case there is an emergency with my yorkie or the puppies. | |
03-11-2011, 07:17 AM | #41 |
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| Sorry ringo1- I misinterperates what you were saying in ur 2nd par... I thought you were taking a pro-spay stance... I agree with what you are saying- people shouldnt be so cavalier in their choice to breed, but I think this one. Seems to have been done to the best of her ability... And most of my post was just in general anyway- not specifically at you... Sorry for the misunderstandings!
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03-11-2011, 07:26 AM | #42 | |
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03-11-2011, 07:29 AM | #43 | |
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03-11-2011, 07:32 AM | #44 |
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| No I dont think you are I wasnt refering to you it was a general comment because of the conflict on here. I wouldnt have advised you to spay your dog on a planned breeding but do see where it can be necessary on accidental breedings. I do think the person who advised you to do it though heart is in the right place though. She just thinks consideration should go into breeding and maybe she didnt read all your doing to prepare for it
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03-11-2011, 08:18 AM | #45 |
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| All I can say after reading this post is wow!! I think because the title was yorkie prego it seam cavalier. After reading the complete post I don't think that is what the op is.... I think some member have seen a lot and it has made them very passionate about breeding. But to say not to breed is being hypocritical. If no one breeds then where did you get your puppy? There are bad breeders... there are good breeders and there will be new breeders. If a person is responsible and careful and takes the time to LEARN they can breed. I did try rescue by the way.. before I Purchased my Yorkie.. did not work..I knew what dog or at least type of dog I wanted to fit my life style and could not find it in rescue or the rescue turned me down because I said I would crate my dog when I was not home.. so if there wasn't breeder I could not have a dog?? The shocker of the recommendation of spaying is not from a "bad" or "angry" person... well at least not in my opinion. I think she made a bad choice of wording and posting ..sorry if that makes you mad.. but it was soooooooooo out of line. So uncalled for and wrong to say. Yes, there may be times when it has to be done.. I can see that.. but not this time for sure. I admire the members who are helpful.. I know you have helped me. Even the members who are more blunt are really good people.. if they are speaking from their hearts. OP.... I wish you the best.. hope to hear only good news. Next time you breed you now will know some of the soul questions to ask your self. Take care
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