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11-17-2010, 11:12 PM | #151 |
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| Asking the price of the dog seems to me to point toward a responsible person. I'm not generalizing...but it seems to me "many" of the people I have met where price is not a consideration are the types that can afford frequent vacations and dropping off their dog to be kenneled while they are vacationing is the norm. I don't think that's in the best interest of one's dog...but that's my opinion. Some kennel at the drop of a hat and think nothing of it. I commit to the dog, if it can't go with me, then I don't go. That being said, management of one's money and making any purchase that is within a person's budget shows intelligence and responsibility, just the type of person that should buy a dog. "to me", if someone didn't ask the price those are the ones I'd think a flake and would be a red flag to me. I think a responsible future pet owner that has a budget of (e.g) a $1000 for a puppy and has considered and allowed for 'normal' care costs goes to buy the pup and finds out it's now $1400 and just buys it because now they've visited it several times, have grown attached to having that puppy isn't a responsible person. I would like to know that they will give it a good home. I'd come down in price to make sure it went with the more responsible pet owner. Price is a reality and I think that someone who would assume someone who asks the price isn't a good choice for their puppy are passing on a lot of good potential owners for their dogs...and that makes the breeder suspect in my mind. Two families, one has one working adult, the other adult stays home; family two both adults work...the latter most likely having more disposable income, less concerned with the dog's cost... which family needs to consider the dollars more? who's going to give the dog more attention and time? The one who whose home and available most likely. What did the family that doesn't have to consider money really bring to the table other than cash? A $1000 plus dollars is significant for people and in addition to interviewing the breeder and their available puppies for quality I'd want to know what the price is. If one person sells their pups for a 1000 and another sells for 2500 I'm entitled (as the buyer) to know exactly what am I buying. Why, Mr/Ms Breeder is your dog 2500 and the other 1000? The more costly dog doesn't make it a better or healthier dog. Knowing the price and the reason behind the pricing structure is a reasonable expectation for anyone buying anything. I'd also like to know the price in case it's a $200 Yorkie...I'd take that as a red flag there...so when someone asks the price they may be the responsible future pet owner and it's the breeder who's getting interviewed for integrity, etc. Kendra |
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11-18-2010, 03:18 AM | #152 |
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| it's not a case of not wanting them to ask the price- its just whenever it is the first thing they ask- like they are asking a shop assistant how much a box of chocolates is! of course the 1st of the examples above would probably have more time... but, when the eg.1 is home all day, do they spend All their time with the dog, or is it locked in the other room because it was the one who is working that Really wanted it? maybe being at work during the day eg.2 will devote more time and Attention to the dog when they return Because they are out- whereas eg.1 because they see the dog 24/7 doesnt feel the need to talk to or play with it... i know that was just an example, and i'm not trying to 'have a go' at you, its just that if this was the case, then eg.2 - the one that didn't ask price as the first thing said, may very well be the more devoted Because they work... but, every placement is different as everyones lives and priorities are... but when i get an email saying 'hi, how much r ur pups? thanks,' i tend to get too much of a bussiness deal type feel from them in their initial mail and response- although i always email back and talk to them for as long as they will reply (be it by email or phone- and usually both), but it does usually end up being a bargin shopper- who just says 'i know, i know' to EVERYTHING said about mills, but hangs up and probably goes there anyway, becasue their pups are still registered... with the 'dog lovers club' that i could reg my corgiX with as a mini labrador! and chocomilk, i know this thread may indeed sound a bit upity to you, sorry about that... but as a rule, if someone hasn't looked into how much on average a yorkie Should cost if raised right, then (to me) they havn't researched enough to be getting one at all- and i have said that to some - got swore and yelled at and hung up on by some, have been allowed to explain in detail why to others... many of whom recontact me again after doing a bit of reading... many have realised the difference in quality that comes with a higher price (as a rule) but genuinely don't care- because all they care about is having enough left over to go out at the weekend, and if thats how they budget concerning their dog, they maybe don't deserve one.
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11-18-2010, 05:07 AM | #153 | |
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Yes, so it would seem. | |
11-18-2010, 05:22 AM | #154 |
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| I couldn't agree with you more! Maybe it's just me and it's not always the case, and I'm sure there are exceptions, but IMO, pleading ignorance will only get you so far. At some point, you just have to use your brain and excercise plain ole common sense. (And I think that can be said for a wide variety of situations, not just where dogs are concerened.) |
11-18-2010, 05:27 AM | #155 |
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| I dont see anything wrong with someone asking what the price of a pup is and I dont think it means they dont care about the breeder or health. I think they are wanting to even see if its in their price range before they go forward and with some yorkies selling as high as $5000 they are justified in asking. I know I ask when I am looking and I care about health and the breeder but if the price isnt in my price range there is no reason to go forward.
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11-18-2010, 05:38 AM | #156 | |
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[QUOTE=BamaFan121s;3332486]It's not a matter of being able to 'understand' the point you are trying to make. I can assure you, there is nothing wrong with my comprehension abilities. I personally, just don't agree with it. The debate is not due to our inability to understand. The debate is about someone that is inexperienced in interviewing future puppy owners, telling experienced breeders/exhibitors how to run their interviewing process. We've been doing this for many, many years, have encountered many personalities and have learned what phrases to listen for. And to put it bluntly, we have the final say on who we want to place our dogs with.
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11-18-2010, 05:56 AM | #157 | |
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11-18-2010, 06:17 AM | #158 | |
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11-18-2010, 06:38 AM | #159 | |
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Same with not so well off pet owners. There are those that have little funds, but will do everything and anything for their babies; even if that means sacrificing a few things that they may want. On the other hand, there are those that will tie a dog to a tree, put out food and water and think it's equivalent to a proper dog sitter. She can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I understood from her post. I would even go as far as categorize myself as the poor, dog obsessed person. I won't even consider going out with a friend if there isn't anyone home to look after Kaji.
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11-18-2010, 06:54 AM | #160 | |
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11-18-2010, 06:58 AM | #161 | |
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11-18-2010, 08:21 AM | #162 |
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| Is this ok to ask a breeder??? can i see the area where you keep your dogs/puppies????
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11-18-2010, 08:28 AM | #163 |
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11-18-2010, 08:51 AM | #164 |
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| Since I keep my pups in my bedroom in their whelping crib, it's a bit of an invasion of privacy.
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11-18-2010, 09:22 AM | #165 |
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| Reputable breeders always educate. Not sure why people don’t have more support for choices made by the people. These aren't car parts. It hurts your feelings. Dogs mean more to me. That's why it bothers me. It's like having a price tag. Some of the people here help our breed. Breeding isnt a job. Done correctly it should help the benefit the breed. You lose money on breeding. Some of the prices I see here are higher than show prospects. This is sad. People should not be paid to have puppies. That's what a job is for. IMO the inquiries asking for shipping first are worst. |
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