Females try to kill each other!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Cerise

I know right? But for it to be a joke would be too much like right Wrong just can't do right!

<sigh> One can hope.

[hartygirl]

Originally Posted by BellaDonna

Since there are people who breed to better the breed, they should be very happy they are able to "sell" the puppies. Even the ones that aren't show dog material and the ones that don't fit the standard. To big, to little etc.

The responsible breeders that sell these pups, do so with a limited registration and the pups are spayed or neutered before ever leaving the breeder and also come with a health guarantee. If a dog is not fit to breed then a responsibile breeder will make sure that it does not happen. Just take a look at their dogs, they speak for themselves.

Actually one of my dogs that people love the most is a tiny chihuahua that was the runt of the litter. She weighs 2 1/2 lbs grown and a "Hobby" breeder gave her to me free. She didn't try to gouge me for $1500.00 for a "teacup". She wanted her to have a good home with someone familiar with the breed and she told me to take her home and take care of her.

I stand by the fact that some really nice dogs can come from a pet breeder and that there are many nice people that have done this. There are also a lot of losers but I have met "reputable breeders" that I don't like or trust either. The people are NICE, and the losers that you speak of are probably not responsible breeders, they are very few and far between. But, the nice pet breeders are not breeding to standard, and while you and I and many others have our dogs because of it, many, many, many more are suffering horrific medical conditions, genetic defects, and being dumped in shelters and on the side of the road because of it. There has to be a line drawn somewhere so no more innocent animals suffer.

Glad you didn't fall for the Teacup line, there is no such thing.

Your little pup is the favorite because she small and cute, the more tiny they are the more they can "stay a puppy forever" in most peoples eyes.

I just can't pigeon hole every single person with a wave of my hand even if I am very judgemental.

It's ok to not pigeon hole every single person, but standing up for innocent pups when there is a risk to their life is an important matter.

The more you stay around here and research responsible breeding the more you will cherish your pups, when I first started learning about breeding ( I AM NOT A BREEDER AND HAVE NEVER BREAD A NY ANIMAL) it was all like a foreign language to me. Now I know a little, but enough to know the difference between right and wrong.

We are all here because we have yorkies in common.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by bonbon

As far as the op and her posts - I have tried to keep my mouth shut but I just can't do it anymore. There is NO, I repeat NO, excuse to breed an abused, rehomed frightened girl just so you can pay your property taxes!!! In fact, paying your bills in NO excuse to breed any pup at all. You have no idea what background these pups have, or what kind or problems and heartache you're passing on to innocent people.

If you need the money so badly, get off your couch and get a job! McDonald's is always hiring.

You have just become my favorite poster of the day.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You have just become my favorite poster of the day.

There's been many a time when one of mine has needed medical care, food or something that I just didn't have the money for right then. Instead of denying them what they needed, I did without. These pups did not ask to come live with me - I chose them, and when I did so I assumed the responsibility of making sure they got the best care possible. The thought of someone making money to pay their bills off of innocent pups, risking their health, safety and even lives just to make a buck, DISGUSTS me. These babies look to us to protect them. If we don't, who will?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by bonbon

There's been many a time when one of mine has needed medical care, food or something that I just didn't have the money for right then. Instead of denying them what they needed, I did without. These pups did not ask to come live with me - I chose them, and when I did so I assumed the responsibility of making sure they got the best care possible.

That's called being a responsible pet owner. That's the way it *should* be--the norm rather than the rare.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

That's called being a responsible pet owner. That's the way it *should* be--the norm rather than the rare.

Never mind. I'd probably get banned for my thoughts right now. I'm sure you have the gist of them, though.

[WinstonMom]

I don't know if I can agree that aggression between females is 100% genetic. The two girls I have that fight are both females that I bought from others and not raised by me. They are perfectly sweet little girls and have never had a problem with humans or with any other dogs. They just hate each other. I have had no problems with aggression with any of their offspring (dogs that have been raised in my home). I mentioned in an earlier post that their daughters will back up the mom in a fight, they are not really getting into it, just sort of dance around looking like if they were going to get into the fight they would stick up for their own mother. My opinion is that although some personality problems are genetic, a lot of personality problems are based in poor socialization. Just my opinion as I have been pleased to have both of these girls in my breeding program, they were excellent mothers, they are excellent with pups including each others, and they have given me excellent babies. JMO

Audrey

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by bonbon

There's been many a time when one of mine has needed medical care, food or something that I just didn't have the money for right then. Instead of denying them what they needed, I did without. These pups did not ask to come live with me - I chose them, and when I did so I assumed the responsibility of making sure they got the best care possible. The thought of someone making money to pay their bills off of innocent pups, risking their health, safety and even lives just to make a buck, DISGUSTS me. These babies look to us to protect them. If we don't, who will?

Thank you...that is EXACTLY the way it should be! And, exactly why I think you rock!

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by bonbon

There's been many a time when one of mine has needed medical care, food or something that I just didn't have the money for right then. Instead of denying them what they needed, I did without. These pups did not ask to come live with me - I chose them, and when I did so I assumed the responsibility of making sure they got the best care possible. The thought of someone making money to pay their bills off of innocent pups, risking their health, safety and even lives just to make a buck, DISGUSTS me. These babies look to us to protect them. If we don't, who will?

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Yes, motherhen has already informed me of the situation and is currently trying to find a new home for the problem girl.

You do know that the "problem girl" was an abused, malnourished, frightened one year old when Motherhen got her, and she bred her right away? And bred her again as soon as she could? These are her words - read her other posts in this thread and see for yourself. This doesn't concern you at all? You're actually willing to place your innocent pups in this kind of environment?

And why is she being the one to be rehomed? Hasn't she suffered enough already? Just spay the girls and let them live in peace.

[Woogie Man]

I'm no expert on psychology, be it human or canine. I do know, however, that temperament is an inherited trait and is just as vital as health and conformation when breeding.

I believe that dogs, like people, likely have thoughts that would shame the devil but most of us have an internal mechanism that prevents us from acting on them. In this case, the female seems to have no brakes at all in controlling her behavior. I'm sure she may be a nice dog in many respects, but then the same could be said for a serial killer. When they get caught, there's always someone who is shocked...as in "oh, he was always so nice to me". The point being that bad behavior isn't expressed 24/7 but some things just can't be allowed. Killing pups would fall into that category.

I think the OP's own posts show there's a lack of control in their house and that makes a bad situation worse. The girl (Calypso) may have issues but what has already happened was needless, issues or not.

Whatever someone's motivations are for breeding, responsibilities do come with it.....first among them being the health and safety of the dogs and pups. I would urge the OP to take a long hard look at what they are doing and why. Yours is a tragic example of thinking that breeding is easy and that things will take care of themselves. You have dead puppies to prove otherwise.

[ladyjane]

Interesting indeed. Complain about another member while engaging in the same behaviors.

Guess this thread has worn itself out and is going to get worse. Might ask your colleague to have it closed.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by bonbon

You do know that the "problem girl" was an abused, malnourished, frightened one year old when Motherhen got her, and she bred her right away? And bred her again as soon as she could? These are her words - read her other posts in this thread and see for yourself. This doesn't concern you at all? You're actually willing to place your innocent pups in this kind of environment?

And why is she being the one to be rehomed? Hasn't she suffered enough already? Just spay the girls and let them live in peace.

[livingdustmops]

3 for the price of 1

pm me if you want an explaination

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

I'm no expert on psychology, be it human or canine. I do know, however, that temperament is an inherited trait and is just as vital as health and conformation when breeding.

I believe that dogs, like people, likely have thoughts that would shame the devil but most of us have an internal mechanism that prevents us from acting on them. In this case, the female seems to have no brakes at all in controlling her behavior. I'm sure she may be a nice dog in many respects, but then the same could be said for a serial killer. When they get caught, there's always someone who is shocked...as in "oh, he was always so nice to me". The point being that bad behavior isn't expressed 24/7 but some things just can't be allowed. Killing pups would fall into that category.

I think the OP's own posts show there's a lack of control in their house and that makes a bad situation worse. The girl (Calypso) may have issues but what has already happened was needless, issues or not.

Whatever someone's motivations are for breeding, responsibilities do come with it.....first among them being the health and safety of the dogs and pups. I would urge the OP to take a long hard look at what they are doing and why. Yours is a tragic example of thinking that breeding is easy and that things will take care of themselves. You have dead puppies to prove otherwise.