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Old 02-08-2010, 11:24 AM   #1
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This is something I've never seen discussed here and something I've never been confronted with before. I"d like opinions from anyone who may have had a situation like this.

Okay, here it is in a nutshell. I was contacted by a lady over the weekend that is interested in one of my pups, an 8 month old female. It was just an initial contact (by phone) so we're nowhere near making a decision. It was a good conversation we had. She asked me plenty of questions, as I did her. She (and her husband) are experienced Yorkie owners that lost their 14 year old girl last October. She explained that they just haven't been the same since her death and are now ready to add a new girl to their home.

From the conversation, my first impression is that this is the type of person that I would like to have one of my pups. Here's the thing, though. She's now 80 years old. Mind you, this was just an initial phone conversation. It was a good one, though, and I never would have guessed her age unless she told me. She doesn't seem to be a 'typical' 80 year old, if there is such a thing. Sorry if I offend anyone but I just don't know how else to say it. I could only hope to be so sharp if I'm lucky enough to see 80.

Should I automatically not consider her due only to her age. I've known quite a few very elderly people that could have taken on a young dog at that age and done well. Of course, my first priority is the welfare of any of my pups. I can include clauses in a contract but that won't prevent a situation from happening...it would just ensure her return to me.

I'm really torn as I don't want to be discriminating just solely on age. I mean, anything can happen to anyone at any stage of their life.

She really seems to be a very nice lady and I don't want to just 'blow her off'. If I were to discourage her away from my girl, are there any good suggestions I could give her as she obviously wants a Yorkie in her life. Rescue? Adopting a retired female? I don't want to steer her away just to have some other breeder place a pup with her if a young Yorkie isn't a good fit for her.

Thanks for reading and thanks for any insight.

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This is how I look at these kinds of things... you could sell her to a 20 year old girl and that girl could die in an accident tomorrow. There are no guarantees in life. This 80 year old woman very well could outlive this pup but maybe you could gently discuss your concerns and somehow be assured that if something happens to the woman, your pup would either be taken back by you or another family member would take her in. Sometimes I worry about this myself - I'm only 44 but I tell my kids that if something should happen to me, they have to take care of my "girls". I would think at 80 years old, this woman must have some type of plan.....
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Indeed, you just never know...I too would maybe gently ask about her health condition, also if she has relatives around the area, that way you know she isn't alone. Very tough situation I do admit. Maybe if she is in your area you could also take your female over to her place to "meet" then you would get an idea of her living condition.
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Well, I got a vet reference from her but have not made contact with him yet. I was thinking that he could tell me a bit more about them in addition to the care they provided their girl that passed. I'd like to know that before I invite them over.
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Mary, I was thinking the same thing...to take Tessa over there for an introduction and see how it went. I think she would fit in well in a one dog household. She's still playful but not rowdy and is becoming very much a lap baby.

ETA...oh, she's not alone. She has her husband so it's a couple I'm talking about
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She seems to me to be a almost perfect yorkie owner, and I've even thought of this when I was buying a dog, my family genetics aren't that great and no one lived that long. I guess I would want to know if she had any family, or if there was someone who could care for the dog if she gets ill. I mean it's not just the elderly who need to think of these things. At 8 months, your dog is over much of the puppy behavior, do you think caring for a new puppy would prove to be too difficult for her? I would want to keep in touch with her, if I decided to give her a pup. Perhaps, she could even have something written in her will regarding future care of the pup. You could also have it written in your contract, that you will be the guardian if she is no longer able to care for the dog. In other words, you would have legal recourse, if you would learn that she had died, or was no longer able to care for the dog. I'm sure you will find many members here who would be happy to rehome the dog, should the need arise. I would be frank with her and tell her my concerns, but I wouldn't dismiss her because of her age. My 80 old mother-in-law is healthier and friskier than I am!
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I think that, as a breeder, is a tough call. I can tell you a little something that I have personally seen, though. My next door neighbors are in their late 80's and you would NEVER know it!! When we first moved in here, I talked to them several times out in the yard....while they were barbequeing or doing their yard work or just out for their usual walks. My husband and I assumed that Bob and Myrt were in their 60's....because they TRULY look it and are VERY active people!!!! It wasn't until Myrt said something about sharing her birthday month with my son but that she was (at that time) 82 years older than him. I had one of those moments where you continue on with the conversation and then, WHAM!! It hits you 5 minutes later what she just said. I couldn't get over it! We have lived here amost 3 years now and they still go out for a couple of walks a day (no matter what they weather is....unless it is too cold, obviously) and they are ALWAYS working in the yard and Bob is always waving to me while he is grilling. About year or so ago, they went to the humane society and adopted Julie (their sweet Beagle). At the time, I told my husband that I didn't know what I thought about that because of their age. But ya know, they have had less colds, Pneumonia, flu(s), ear infections than my family....in fact, I do not know of them having any of these above since we have lived here!! We are more sick than they have been with all of those things that I mentioned and we range in age from 4-40. If something does happen to them, I can tell ya, that precious Julie has lived this part of her life VERY, I mean VERY spoiled by Bob and Myrt!!!!

I can't tell ya for sure what I would do in your situation, but I do think that if your heart is telling you that this would be a wonderfully loving home, then these people are worth considering.

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Mary, I was thinking the same thing...to take Tessa over there for an introduction and see how it went. I think she would fit in well in a one dog household. She's still playful but not rowdy and is becoming very much a lap baby.

ETA...oh, she's not alone. She has her husband so it's a couple I'm talking about
I think it is a great idea to introduce her and her husband to Tessa. Would be great to see how they both interact with her. As Nancy said, her age may not play a factor. My mother in law is 76 and she could run circles around me, she has a shih shu. I would give it a whirl myself. Never know, could be the best fit for Tessa.
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Nancy, I would definitely stay in touch if she did get Tessa. The will thing is a good idea. It's all just a touchy subject that I struggle to find words for. I do think Tessa's care needs to be discussed. Thanks for the suggestion.
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I would not discriminate someone for her old age. We never know when it is going to be our time to go.. things happen.

I have a clause in my contract mentioning:

The Buyer agrees that if at anytime the dog can no longer reside with her/him, the breeder will be given first option to take back the dog, no monetary compensation is given...

Just in case...

I often forgot, but it is always good to tell the buyers to have a backup plan for the dog in case something happen to them. And to let someone know that the breeder will take the dog back no problems at anytime.

I have told my closest friends and family: When I go.. All my belong will be share between the dogs(I don't have kids)... So you have to adopt one if you want to get anything. They think I am joking... But i am so NOT
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LOl, Tammy, I know some folks like that. They're amazing and, the thing is, there's more of them than you might think. If she hadn't told me how old she was, I would have no reservations at this stage.

Mary, I know that our hearts get softer as we age and this lady may well be a wonderful Mom for Tessa. Thank you all for your thoughts.
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LOl, Tammy, I know some folks like that. They're amazing and, the thing is, there's more of them than you might think. If she hadn't told me how old she was, I would have no reservations at this stage.

Mary, I know that our hearts get softer as we age and this lady may well be a wonderful Mom for Tessa. Thank you all for your thoughts.
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IM going to Agree with you 100% probally 200%, my mom lives in an elderly community in Florida, she see first hand what happens when the people pass away, and they do , at least once a week, thier children often live out of state, have thier own children and or pets and they animal control officer comes to take the pets away!! I witnessed this first hand while visiting her. My mom lives in a VERY VERY nice 40 plus community, but there are alot of residents who are 70 plus, they are modular homes and some kids even surrender the homes to the association.. I nearly died when I saw the amimal control officer she said it happens alll the time!! If kids can let thier parents homes go they most certainly will let the pets go... I would have her look into a retired breeder dog, one that could spend some very happy years with her!
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Chantal, a contract would protect Tessa in the event of something happening. As everyone says, anything can happen to any of us. My concern is that I want to place my babies in a forever home and the age thing does give me pause...

Of course, finding a really good home for our babies is what we all are obligated to do. On first impression, she seems like she would be a wonderful Mom. I really need to contact her vet, get some input from him and proceed from there, I suppose.

This really is a dilemma for me.
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Jean, the situation you laid out is the type of thing that concerns me. Nancy had a good suggestion about putting her in the will, but what if the will isn't read until it's too late?

These folks don't live in a retirement community. They have their own house and walked their little girl daily so (apparently) are active people. Your example would hold true, though, no matter where they live.
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