dock or not? advice?

[friscomom]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Friscomom, you've stated in another thread here tonight that your own yorkies neuter and/or retained baby teeth have been put on "your back burner". I would suggest to you that perhaps your own dog is in dental pain or discomfort and just maybe you should worry about him before you tackle the entire tail docking cause.

Your rhetoric is a waste of my time.

jencar, how you choose to waste your time is no concern of mine. However, I'm sure there's an ignore function on here, if not, you can recognize my rhetoric by a little black flop eared dog picture preceded by the word friscomom to the left of the posting, and click your left mouse button down on the scrollbar to the right of your screen to bypass it, thus freeing your time for better use. Thank you for the much needed suggestion about how I spend my share.

[WinstonMom]

Originally Posted by friscomom

Well, let me try to explain. I've watched fights before, and it looks to me like the YT club is outnumbered, outranked, no visible means of support outside of poodle country, and they're wrong. Cutting off puppy tails isn't something YTCA likes to talk about it, since it upsets people and their rationalizations are flimsy. They have to cloak the practice in 'soft' terms like 'docking' to prevent weirdos understanding what they're talking about and going ballistic, making embarrassing scenes and drawing attention and all that. While the hopeful defender AKC proclaims to the press that cutting puppies ears and tails off are Important procedures for Important dogs doing Important things for the Nation, like Military, Police, and Humanitarian services, the rationale doesn't translate over to little yorkies and poodles. They tell you to go ask your vet, and the good vets of the world don't like chopping off ears and tails for no good reason, and have plainly and strongly said so. Thus the AKC will withdraw support of the YT club (who I'm not convinced even exist as they don't answer emails) in favor of self defense, since their position is unsustainable in the face of popular public and political passion to restore the earth to a more natural state.

Do you have proof for any on the statements you have made regarding the AKC or YTCA or is this just your opinion.
Also, I must say you are very persistent. I would love to have you join a group whose major concerns are puppy-mills, high-kill shelters, and animal cruelty in general. These groups really need someone with your persistence and perhaps you could save a life or two.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

Do you have proof for any on the statements you have made regarding the AKC or YTCA or is this just your opinion.
Also, I must say you are very persistent. I would love to have you join a group whose major concerns are puppy-mills, high-kill shelters, and animal cruelty in general. These groups really need someone with your persistence and perhaps you could save a life or two.

It's just wishful thinking on her postings. While I understand why others differ in opinions and I respect others opinions but I want to applaud those who have kept it adult and nice but to Frisco I think needs more researching of the AKC and the YTCA before making "assumptions" regarding these clubs.

Donna

[WinstonMom]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

It's just wishful thinking on her postings. While I understand why others differ in opinions and I respect others opinions but I want to applaud those who have kept it adult and nice but to Frisco I think needs more researching of the AKC and the YTCA before making "assumptions" regarding these clubs.

Donna

I thought it was probably wishful thinking. I live in Canada and I know that here the CKC has sent a directive to all the breed clubs to review their breed standards with regard to tail docking but I was pretty sure that since the YTCA had just amended the standards regarding color that there would be no more changes for them in the near future.
I was a little taken aback when I realized that Frisco did not actually know that her little dog was not born with a short tail. I find it amazing that one would actually purchase a dog of any breed without doing their homework.

Audrey

[QuickSilver]

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

Do you have proof for any on the statements you have made regarding the AKC or YTCA or is this just your opinion.
Also, I must say you are very persistent. I would love to have you join a group whose major concerns are puppy-mills, high-kill shelters, and animal cruelty in general. These groups really need someone with your persistence and perhaps you could save a life or two.

I agree with this! FriscoMom, I actually noticed your posts before because you posted some neat ideas about how to keep your pups occupied in winter, and some of your posts in training. I like you.

I think someone with your energy and creativity would be a great force in animal welfare. I'd love to have someone lead the way in 'Animal Welfare and Protection', bring bills to YTs attention, show people how to get involved, etc.

[friscomom]

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

I find it amazing that one would actually purchase a dog of any breed without doing their homework.

I find it amazing that anyone would *purchase* a dog at all.

And I don't join groups and I have saved a life or two, and I appreciate the friendly gestures.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by friscomom

I find it amazing that anyone would *purchase* a dog at all.

See it's folks like you that make it really hard to sit on my fingers and not want to reach through this computer screen and well....I'm gonna stop short...

Donna

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

See it's folks like you that make it really hard to sit on my fingers and not want to reach through this computer screen and well....I'm gonna stop short...

Donna

LOL....back away from the keyboard, Donna

[friscomom]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

It's just wishful thinking on her postings.

Yes, just disregard the girl who lost it over there in the corner. But watch out for Illinois, they've reached full maturity.

Frisco I think needs more researching of the AKC and the YTCA before making "assumptions" regarding these clubs.

Why, their treatment of animals and evasion of queries doesn't shout loudly enough?

[jackson25]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

See it's folks like you that make it really hard to sit on my fingers and not want to reach through this computer screen and well....I'm gonna stop short...

Donna

It is hard Donna, but resist the temptation!

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by friscomom

Yes, just disregard the girl who lost it over there in the corner. But watch out for Illinois, they've reached full maturity.



Why, their treatment of animals and evasion of queries doesn't shout loudly enough?

I treat my yorkies probably better than I treat most humans and I am a member of the YTCA. I'm sorry if I don't treat you seriously in your inquiries as I don't think you are taking our answers seriously I do not evade any queries regarding the yorkshire terrier. Sometimes I choose to ignore because I won't have anything nice to say

Donna

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by jackson25

It is hard Donna, but resist the temptation!

I'm resisiting, I'm resisting LOL LOL

[jackson25]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I'm resisiting, I'm resisting LOL LOL

Good girl! LOL

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by jackson25

Good girl! LOL

As Jen pointed out...."Donna' back away from the keyboard LOL LOL LOL...this person I think likes the drama and wants to see who's dander she can flake off

[BamaFan121s]

I have found in life, that at times you run across arguments and observations that seem to serve no purpose other than to give the person 'speaking' something to listen to. And generally, it's all personal theory, as is the case here. When things reach that level of absurdity, it becomes almost comical and just makes you shake your head in wonder, roll your eyes, and move on.

I think we have reached that point.