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10-15-2008, 06:54 PM | #91 |
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| I am so sorry to hear you lost one. Congrats on the three remaining pups!! Usually when you have a mom that had a c-section it will take awhile for her to accept them as hers. Since she didn't actually give birth to them it makes it confusing for her. Keep trying to put them on her, just make sure you are there and have control over the situation in case she wants to hurt them. Also try taking a towel and rub it on her belly and then rub it on the pups to give the pups her scent so she will be more likely to accept them. For now continue with the supplementing. Make sure they stay warm and weigh them each day to make sure they are gaining. Since mom isn't caring for them you will have to stimulate the pups to go to the bathroom yourself. You can use a warm wet cottonball and rub them to stimulate them. Hopefully with time she will learn to accept them.
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10-15-2008, 07:00 PM | #92 |
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| aww honey, I am sorry to hear that one baby didn't make it. I found that with a c-section Mom takes a day or so to get into MOM MODE. She should be more maternal once her milk comes in good. But you still need to try to have them nurse from her for the colstrum. Remember also her tummy is sore from the c-section so watch her close for a few days until she feels better.
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10-15-2008, 07:07 PM | #93 | |
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Sorry I got cut off. I wanted to add that please do not leave the pups alone with momma until you know she has accepted them. I have heard it is very common for them to attack and even kill them after having a c-section. If you can, try to get the pups to nurse from mamma. The first few days are important because that is when she has the colustrum in her milk which helps them out a lot. You may have to hold her down to do this. What a day you have had!! Please keep us updated on how things go!!
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10-15-2008, 07:13 PM | #94 |
I Love My Babies Donating Member | I am so sorry one of the babies didn't make it. RIP little angel. How are the other 3 doing? Have they nursed from mommy yet? I will be praying for all of you. Good luck my friend.
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10-15-2008, 07:28 PM | #95 |
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| So sorry to hear about your loss. But I'm so glad Peaches and her other babies survived. Bizzy just had a c-section, and she was out of it for about 24 hours due to the anesthetic. We really had to work to get the puppies nursing, and once the anesthetic wore off, she accepted them. The babies are very small, so weigh them several times a day to make sure they are not losing weight. Give Peaches whelping pudding to help get her energy up and bring in her milk. Make sure she is drinking water, add Karo syrup to keep her stomach settled and give her energy. We considered the options and elected to give Bizzy some pain medication the first 24 hours. This did have an effect on the puppies, but kept her comfortable and resting. I felt she was better able to take care of the puppies afterwards because she had a little respite from the pain of the surgery. We wish you the best. Oh and you might check out WoogieMan's thread about Bonnie's puppies. He is supplementing now too and seems to have it figured out.
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10-15-2008, 07:30 PM | #96 |
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| Congratulations on your new litter. I'm happy that mom and the remaining three ar doing fine. I've never had one go through the C section, so I have no experience, but having gone through one myself, I can tell you that she is probably still a bit dazed from the drugs, and once she comes out of that she might take to them. |
10-15-2008, 07:31 PM | #97 |
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| Ditto the info above about being very careful that Peaches does not harm the puppies. But it is really important that you get the puppies nursing right away. Even if you have to hold her down, the sooner they nurse, the sooner her milk will come in and things may normalize.
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10-15-2008, 08:38 PM | #98 |
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| I'm sorry you lost one of the little girls, but glad you have 3 beautiful pups!
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10-15-2008, 09:48 PM | #99 |
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| Congratulations on your new litter, and I am sorry you lost one of the girls, but I'm happy that mom and the remaining three ar doing fine. I used to baby sit a pug with C section for my friend, she was pregnant with 2 but lost one, I helped because my friend had other big dogs at home and don't want them to hurt the puppy. It took a couple of day for the mom to get used to the puppy, she first ignored the puppy but later start taking car of him really well. Today is Candy's 55 days and she is just normal.
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10-16-2008, 06:05 AM | #100 |
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| Accepted!!! Peaches accepted her puppies around 4 am this morning! We had put her in there with them at 3 am, and made her lay down so she could nurse them. We had to do the same thing last night also. We just laid our hand on her and stroked her with the other while they nursed. So anyway, at 4 am, I had gotten up to check on the babies and Peaches. (Peaches was currently in the our bed with Mike and me becuz last night she didn't want to be near them.) But when Peaches saw me go in there to the whelping room, she came running in and looked at the puppies, looked at me, and then jumped (carefully) in! She sniffed the babies and then sat down on the opposite side of the box from where the puppies were - But then she got up and went over to the one that was crying and nibbled at her back foot and leg then she nibbled on her neck. I thought, oh no! She is fixing to attack and kill it and I have to watch her try to do this. But then she picked it up (very softly) by the back of its neck and took it back with her and then she began cleaning it...... Then the other two babies crawled over very loudly, and she began cleaning those two babies as well. She then laid down and put her arm and head over them and snuggled up with them. I took a picture of this and will put in my album today. It's too sweet not too share plus a huge thing that we thought we'd be dealing with for several weeks. I hope yall area as happy as me! Yay!!! I hope to talk with many of you soon. But for now.... I'm going back to bed!
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10-16-2008, 06:21 AM | #101 |
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10-16-2008, 06:59 AM | #102 |
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| I just read your posts.... Hey you guys! I read your posts after I wrote my last post to you. So I need to answer those. I wanted to tell you that we didn't have to supplement them at all. We were about 5 minutes away from that though. She was so sore on her stomach and I put a drop of formula on each nipple and then helped them carefully open their mouths so they could attach. And Wallah! It happened! My mom made the whelping pudding yesterday before we picked them up so we'd have it. I have a great mom! Anyway, I gave her some of that and she absolutely loved it!!! This morning she ate about a cup of it. She won't leave the puppies now (Yay!) to drink water, which is good for the pups but not for her, so I put it in a medicine dropper, the kind you buy for kids medicines. And I filled it up with warm water (I haven't thought of using Karo, but I will do that too) and I felt that warm water would feel better than cold for her tummy. Anyway, she gulps it down in the dropper. The only reason she hasn't drank more than that, is because I am the one who stops. Since about 4:30 am this morning, she has drank about 2 cups of water. So anyway, I'm glad she got her colostrum in those puppies. They gave me an antibiotic and some pain medicine. They used gas on her during her procedure and they gave her a double dose of the pain medicine. They said it's non-narcotic so it doesn't make her loopy or dazed Its called Metacam Suspension liquid, which she likes the taste of that too. And I have been stimulating them to make them use the bathroon too. I do it actually right before they nurse so that there is plenty of room for the the colostrum and milk and then after the nurse. She has been panting alot this morning but not sure why? Is it the pain? And then after she nurses, she starts shaking. Is that the pain too? Ok, I'll be back after my nap. Bye for now, but not for long.
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10-16-2008, 07:01 AM | #103 |
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| Thanks so much! the reason I'm not posting on here yet, is because I can't figure out how to resize the pics on IrfanView. Thanks for sending that out to me, I haven't read that one yet.
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10-16-2008, 07:41 AM | #104 |
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| So, so happy for you and Peaches. Things should normalize now and everyone thrive. My moms usually pant alot during the first few days. Their milk is coming in and they are adjusting hormonally, so I don't think that is abnormal. I always give whelping pudding right after nursing, this may help with the shaking. All of my moms needed to be hand-fed the first few days after whelping. I hold the water bowl up to them so they don't have to move much to drink. She needs lots of water for her milk production, so offer this many times during the day (and night). I had to actually hold the kibble mixture in my hand for them to eat. Again, not asking them to move from the bed at all. Are you supplementing with Pet-Cal for calcium? Breeders handle this differently, but I always supplement. I crush 1/2 tablet of Pet-Cal and mix it with a couple spoonfuls of cottage cheese. I continue to give this morning and night until they have weaned the puppies. Other breeders just offer more dairy-type foods. Ask your vet about this if you are unsure. Good luck.
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10-16-2008, 08:03 AM | #105 |
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| Congratulations on your 3 healthy babies!!
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