Golden Parti Yorkies

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

I also Dna test all my dogs to make sure there is no crossbreeding happening, DO you have all yours DNA tested?

I'm curious as to why that would be neccessary unless there was a question regarding who sired the litter?

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

once again since you did not read all the posts in this thread I do not advertise my partis as rare and I do not sell designer dogs. I do say my Golden Parti colored dogs are rare because currently they are but I hope to see that change. I also Dna test all my dogs to make sure there is no crossbreeding happening, DO you have all yours DNA tested? I agree with there stance on so called teacup yorkies and I can not tell you how much time I spend trying to educate people on why Teacups are not desirable. Yes, it is very easy to find actuall cases of tiny yorkies with health problems. Not so easy to find with the colored dogs.

Uhmmmm a rare as you call it Golden Parti is a designer dog. Your trying to make a new standard by breeding off colors, if thats not designer dogs what is??? And Yes I do DNA test my dogs, all of my males are DNA'ed!

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You started you posts with statement of how rare these dogs were and that you only knew of 7 in existance. I believe any discussion of genetics and the rarity or validity of these dogs was probably a result of those comments.

Yes I did, and I stand by that comment untill somebody can show me where the thousand of gold and white AKC partis are hiding at.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Not so easy to find with the colored dogs.

Possibly because they are newer? It's impossible to determine long term effects on a variation of a breed when it has not been around but for a short time. From all of the breeders I've talked to who HAVE researched, there doesn't seem to be much, if any supporting evidence for the claims at this point, but it is worth considering and researching and having an understanding of for yourself, generally speaking.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I'm curious as to why that would be neccessary unless there was a question regarding who sired the litter?

It is necessary only because people who share your oppinion and do not understand genetics are out there questioning the validity of these dogs as purebred.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Yes I did, and I stand by that comment untill somebody can show me where the thousand of gold and white AKC partis are hiding at.

I think you missed the point. It was not to argue your claim, just to point out how this quickly turned into a discussion of genetics.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Well for many, it suggest something quite different.

It may indeed but there is no data available at this time to show any negative side effect

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

It is necessary only because people who share your oppinion and do not understand genetics are out there questioning the validity of these dogs as purebred.

First off, you have no clue what I or anyone else here "understands." Secondly, with all the unethical breeders out there producing these dogs and marketing them as rare to turn a quick buck, it's not at all far fetched to question it. I believe there are people out there--some on this site--who have thoroughly researched their lines to prove the validity of their pedigrees. But likewise there are some people who have not and given the current "supply and demand" and ability to get a high price for them, as YOU pointed out, you'd have to be a fool NOT to question it.
(That is something not limited to just the off-color Yorkies.)

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

It may indeed but there is no data available at this time to show any negative side effect

Not at all what I meant...the statement had nothing at all to do with "negative side effects." It was that if something that I could only find 7 of in this world popped up, I'd question whether or not it was REALLY pure Yorkie as it was claimed to be.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Uhmmmm a rare as you call it Golden Parti is a designer dog. Your trying to make a new standard by breeding off colors, if thats not designer dogs what is??? And Yes I do DNA test my dogs, all of my males are DNA'ed!

Aren't you against the use of words like Designer? I do not ever use that word to describe my dogs. Designer is a word used by people mixing dogs to make them sond exotic to try to bring more money for a mutt. All of my dogs are purebred yorkies bred to purebred yorkies. With DNA testing done by the AKC to back that statement.

All of my males and All of my females are DNA tested as well even though AKC only requires the males be tested.

[alishasmom]

acording to what I was reading in my yorkie book, If the breed was actually "found?" in 1980, Dont you think that the breed itself is to young to actually assume is completely developed? Perhaps, it is still developing its traits. Therefore the standars are due to change. Only time will tell. I hope to be alive by then.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Designer is a word used by people mixing dogs to make them sond exotic to try to bring more money for a mutt. All of my dogs are purebred yorkies bred to purebred yorkies.

And promoting something as a rare Golden Parti is NOT using a work to make a dog sound exotic? In that case, why not just call them Yorkies and drop the Golden Parti label?

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

With DNA testing done by the AKC to back that statement.

Which proves what? Who the parents were? And who were they? Two standard colored Yorkies? How far back do the DNA results go? For every dog within the lineage back to before the color variation ocurred?

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Not at all what I meant...the statement had nothing at all to do with "negative side effects." It was that if something that I could only find 7 of in this world popped up, I'd question whether or not it was REALLY pure Yorkie as it was claimed to be.

I can understand that. That is the reason I do the testing. I do it when I purchase them to make sure of their purity. If a test ever comes back showing the dog is not purebred but a mix done by someone else that dog will be fixed and found a good home. Testing is done before ever breeding them to assure that i do not introduce any mix into my puppies. AKC only requires it in Males after they have been bred 3 times, so by not checking you could have a lot of puppies out there registered as pure that are not before you even found out.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

If a test ever comes back showing the dog is not purebred but a mix done by someone else that dog will be fixed and found a good home.

I'm sorry, I was not aware that AKC had such a test. I know that DNA test can determine the parentage....

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

AKC only requires it in Males after they have been bred 3 times, so by not checking you could have a lot of puppies out there registered as pure that are not before you even found out.

Actually, it's 7 litters in a lifetime, 2 per year, if I'm not mistaken. But this is a point I have made many times, so I am in agreement with you on this fact.

[tiggerr36792]

Effective for litters whelped on or after July 1, 2000, AKC DNA Profiling is required if a stud dog is classified as a Frequently Used Sire, meaning that he has produced seven or more litters in his lifetime or more than three litters in a calendar year.