Golden Parti Yorkies

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Would that be the same as Rare?

No, it would be "questionable" IMO.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

I think Jeanie's parti girls are blue/tan and white but they may carry the golden gene (sire of her girls, has produced golden pups). She's now looking for a golden parti carrier male (looks traditional colored but carries both the parti and golden gene) to breed to her parti girls.

Maybe Jeanie can fill us in better????

I'm speaking of the dog in her avatar, of course...you can't see her/him entirely, but I don't see any black/blue.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

No, it would be "questionable" IMO.

chuckle.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by iLuv Reeses

I've never heard of a breed standard for partis whether AKC, FCI, CKC, KC and AKU. I just know of the breed standard for Biewers as they have their own breed club.

Think you missed something in my original post. What I was saying is that I was trying to follow the Biewer standard as far as coloration and markings with the Partis. This might not even be possible because of different genetics between the two.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

No, it would be "questionable" IMO.

So do I put Questionably uncommon for something uncommon Gold and White DNA tested AKC Yorkshire Terriers? Just Trying to find out what would be PC...lol

[bchgirl]

I take it back...I see a small amount of blue on Jeanie's dog in her avatar. Quite a bit of gold though....she has her website listed in her signature. You'll find more pictures there.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ccinating.html

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

The point is that the breed standard can and does change.

There needs to be a seperate standard for the colors for showing purposes because I do not believe they should ever show against the standard colors. It would be nice if someone would form the Parti Colored Yorkshire Terrier Club of America but I have not seen it yet and am not sure how to get it Started. Does anybody else thing this is a good idea?

IF these variation of dogs are ever going to gain AKC recognition, then there would have to be a uniform, coordinated efforts among Parti breeders. So a "club" would seem to be the first step.

However, as AKC sets standards based on the YTCA, it's not the AKC's approval you have to get, it's YTCA's...unless AKC decides to adopt another organization as the parent clud, which isn't at all likely. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's the way it is. Per feedback from YTCA, they are not willing to accept off-colored Yorkies.
With all the questionable Partis popping up every time you turn around being marketed in such questionable manners, is it really any wonder why they are not open to the idea at this point in time?
Yes, standards change, but according to YTCA approval--and they don't approve of Partis.

So I guess the real question is this: If your desire is to see them gain AKC and standard recognition, what are YOU doing to contribute to that goal? (The common fallback justification of "breeding healthy dogs" doesn't work in this scenario.)

[tiggerr36792]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

So do I put Questionably uncommon for something uncommon Gold and White DNA tested AKC Yorkshire Terriers? Just Trying to find out what would be PC...lol

Well you are already using the term Super Rare right?? I don't understand why the need to wash out so much of the coloring in a true Yorkie standard personally.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

I think Jeanie's parti girls are blue/tan and white but they may carry the golden gene (sire of her girls, has produced golden pups). She's now looking for a golden parti carrier male (looks traditional colored but carries both the parti and golden gene) to breed to her parti girls.

Maybe Jeanie can fill us in better????

There are a lot of Gold dogs carrying for the parti gene out there now. I know of one beautiful golden with a completely white front and feet that is available now. I should have some at the end of next month too, and maybe another gold and white dog if I am lucky.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Think you missed something in my original post. What I was saying is that I was trying to follow the Biewer standard as far as coloration and markings with the Partis. This might not even be possible because of different genetics between the two.

Why would you want to follow the biewer standard? If that's your objective...why not breed biewers?

I don't believe the genetic marker for a biewer's color placement is found in parti's.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

So do I put Questionably uncommon for something uncommon Gold and White DNA tested AKC Yorkshire Terriers? Just Trying to find out what would be PC...lol

Not sure what you are even getting at here. There is no PC term for something that has not yet been defined. It's a contradiction within itself.
As I said, the pedigrees would be questionable...not sure how many different ways there can be to misinterpret that...although I'm thinking maybe in this case it's intentional.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Well you are already using the term Super Rare right?? I don't understand why the need to wash out so much of the coloring in a true Yorkie standard personally.

Yes I do and only on my Golden Colored Parti dogs. I have only found 7 in existence. That is pretty darn rare at the moment. Next year they may not be rare at all. I do not list my partis as rare because I do not believe they are and I do not list goldens as rare either because i could find you as many as you want pretty easily, But go out and find me some other gold and white ones. I personally would love to be able to talk to the breeders that have them to learn more. I think what you will find is only one person who even shows them on their website, me and ZERO pictures other than those of my dogs.

No one wants to wash out the standard color yorkies. I think all of us breeding the colors love them too. I stated earlier I do not believe that should ever be in the same show ring.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

What I was saying is that I was trying to follow the Biewer standard as far as coloration and markings with the Partis. This might not even be possible because of different genetics between the two.

Don't you think this would be something to determine and research before breeding? Furthermore, how would you do that if you are breeding only gold/white Yorkies...the coloring is not even close to that of a Biewer.
As far as breeding to a standard, you can breed to whatever standard you want to, but in the end YOU are the only one following that standard, so what good is it? Unless there is a coordinated effort for one universal standard, it's pointless.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Why would you want to follow the biewer standard? If that's your objective...why not breed biewers?

I don't believe the genetic marker for a biewer's color placement is found in parti's.

Ok, I will explain myself on that too. I am trying to get gold masking on the face and symetrical markings on the dogs. This is going to take time to do if it is even possible. I am doing this because I like the way it looks better not because I think there is anything wrong with non symetrical markings. Skye is not symetrical in her markings but there are not a lot of gold and white dogs to pick and choose from at the moment. Maybe it is not even possible because of the differences in genetics but it does appear that getting gold masking is very possible.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Yes I do and only on my Golden Colored Parti dogs. I have only found 7 in existence. But go out and find me some other gold and white ones.

Um...shouldn't this tell you something?