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Old 07-29-2008, 07:20 PM   #61
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Just my opinion but I think the title to this post is stupid along with the post itself. I am allergic to dogs and chanced it when I got Lilly. Thankfully I'm not allergic to her but if I were I'd definitely take 50 million allergy pills a day just to be able to keep her. Most people wouldn't be willing to do that though as allergies are a pain in the butt. I know when I'm around any other dogs or cats I can't breathe, my eyes itch, my nose runs and I sneeze who knows how many times but NOTHING around Lilly. These people probably didn't realize they were going to be allergic to the dog or I'm sure they wouldn't have gotten it.

I really think it's over the top you wanting to do a ripoff report on them. I don't get how they ripped you off and I'm sure if you did one, it wouldn't go far and may even result in something legally happening to you. Count to 10 and back away from the computer.
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On the original topic, I will always take back one of my dogs. In fact, it is part of my contract. I would much rather have the opportunity to re-home a puppy or dog, then loose contact with him/her. My friendship, assistance, and knowledge are part of the package.

The puppy purchasers may or not have been allergic. I encourage buyers if they are local to come over weekly to play with their puppy after the puppy has had its second shots. This helps eliminate allergies and buyer's remorse.

I know it is disappointing to have to go through the process again to rehome the puppy but you as the breeder knows this puppy's needs better than the owner wanting to return the puppy.
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I agree the posts above, though I agree it is the breeder's choice!
I just think that people should use their own judgement in every case, people reading skills come in handy!
Thank GOD Cooper's breeder took the time to meet me and make a decision based on ME. I got him as my 18th birthday present to myself! I might not be the typical college student, but my situation allows me to take immaculate care of both my yorkies. When it comes to my boys I never think twice about their care! I've seen older people at the vet that might fall into some breeder's "preferred" categories, refusing care for their pet because of cost/time. Not saying its about money, but age doesn't directly correlate with responsibility level and financial ability. Something some people need to remember. ~How many parents (of appropriate parental age) act negligently and cause harm to their young children? How many houses are in HORRIBLE condition??

that is very true
many older people dont want to spend the money they SHOULD on their dogs
they are JUST dogs
i guess its not about age or color or where you live
its about the people and their devotion to proper care
i guess breeders need an open mind to decide with
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I do not require a yard...I breed Yorkies, not German Shepherds. Many of mine have goneto live in NY penthouses and small apartments everywhere..the size of the house means nothing to me..infact they could live quite happily in one room with an owner who loves and cares for all their needs.
Thank you ! When I got my 2 girls.. yes I had a house ...but now we're in an apartment. The girls have a little back patio with fake grass and a BIG Tent for shade......we walk twice a day around the complex - and though they're alone now while I'm at work...they've adjusted very well considering the major life changes since my husband died. They've actually adjusted better than I have.

If not having a house is a reason for someone not to sell a dog to me -(not that I'm looking for one) ... then screw them that seems to be very discrimatory... but I'd like to be the one to make the choice not the 'seller'.

I miss my house - but there's no reason small dogs can't live happily in apartments. It's not where you live but HOW you live.
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I miss my house - but there's no reason small dogs can't live happily in apartments. It's not where you live but HOW you live.
A dedicated compassionate pet parent is much more important than any housing situation.
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A dedicated compassionate pet parent is much more important than any housing situation.
Yup !
I wanted to add one thing (too much coffee this morning)

Hypothetical situation:

IF I ever 'purchased' a puppy from a breeder and for whatever reason felt it wasn't a good 'fit' - and in turn - returned said puppy....THEN one day saw MY NAME PLASTERED ON THE NET AS A CUSTOMER FROM HELL - I'd be doing my OWN thread about breeders from hell.

belindaY ...as a breeder who is profiting from the 'SALES' - you should be happy they returned the puppy to you & not resold him/her. THEY did the right thing too....as you did by taking that puppy back.

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Thank you ! When I got my 2 girls.. yes I had a house ...but now we're in an apartment. The girls have a little back patio with fake grass and a BIG Tent for shade......we walk twice a day around the complex - and though they're alone now while I'm at work...they've adjusted very well considering the major life changes since my husband died. They've actually adjusted better than I have.

If not having a house is a reason for someone not to sell a dog to me -(not that I'm looking for one) ... then screw them that seems to be very discrimatory... but I'd like to be the one to make the choice not the 'seller'.

I miss my house - but there's no reason small dogs can't live happily in apartments. It's not where you live but HOW you live.
It realy isn't about where, age, or educational level....it is exactly as you stated - HOW you live and the life you will provide a dog that ultimately counts!
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I think it's important for the breeder to know their dogs and to try and place each puppy in a home that is appropriate for him/her. They may all be Yorkies but they aren't little cookie cutter dogs. Some are just little love bugs that will do well in almost any environment so long as they are loved and cared for. Some are more sporty and really need a yard to play in. They are true TERRIERS with a high energy level and to place such a dog in an apartment would crush his spirit and lead to behavior problems. When I speak with prospective owners, I try to find out enough about their living situation so that I can steer them to a puppy that would be a good fit. A Yorkie is so much more than size, sex and coat quality. They are individuals just as any dog owner is. So far, I've never had a pup returned although every new owner is told that if, for any reason things don't work out, to return the puppy to me. Also, I've seen a few disturbing comments on this thread regarding the OP's BUSINESS and making a SALE. Anyone that breeds has made a SALE and has made a BUSINESS agreement with the new OWNER, no matter how much you care for your dogs. I don't know the OP so I can't make any insinuations about her motivations and, unless you do, please lighten up. As far as a 'customer from hell' list, anytime you say something negative about a person publicly you are exposing yourself to legal repercussions. I don't think returning a puppy because of 'allergies' or whatever would be enough to go public with it although you could privately warn other breeders if you felt the need to.
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My puppies' welfare always comes first, and I did take the puppy back with full refund, but I find I NEED IDEAS ON HOW TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE. This is scary because I thought I was being careful and selective about the homes my puppies go to. I don't understand how someone could be allergic to dogs and not know it before taking one home. I make it VERY clear to customers that I will buy back my Yorkies any time, for any reason, and I totally mean that, but it is not my intention to be sending puppies off with people who think they can just try them out. This has happened three times out of five litters in the past year. I'm thinking of starting a Hall of Shame directory or something like that where breeders can report customers who should not be sold dogs. I do an internet search on all customers before my dogs leave home, just in case there's something there I should know. Once some info came back that caused me to cancel a sale. I learned too late that one person who returned a puppy this year has done it at least one other time. Wouldn't it have been nice for me to be able to know that beforehand?
Oh........that is kinda of scary sounding doing a internet search on the buyer.
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Yup !
I wanted to add one thing (too much coffee this morning)

Hypothetical situation:

IF I ever 'purchased' a puppy from a breeder and for whatever reason felt it wasn't a good 'fit' - and in turn - returned said puppy....THEN one day saw MY NAME PLASTERED ON THE NET AS A CUSTOMER FROM HELL - I'd be doing my OWN thread about breeders from hell.


belindaY ...as a breeder who is profiting from the 'SALES' - you should be happy they returned the puppy to you & not resold him/her. THEY did the right thing too....as you did by taking that puppy back.

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My puppies' welfare always comes first, and I did take the puppy back with full refund, but I find I NEED IDEAS ON HOW TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE. This is scary because I thought I was being careful and selective about the homes my puppies go to. I don't understand how someone could be allergic to dogs and not know it before taking one home. I make it VERY clear to customers that I will buy back my Yorkies any time, for any reason, and I totally mean that, but it is not my intention to be sending puppies off with people who think they can just try them out. This has happened three times out of five litters in the past year. I'm thinking of starting a Hall of Shame directory or something like that where breeders can report customers who should not be sold dogs. I do an internet search on all customers before my dogs leave home, just in case there's something there I should know. Once some info came back that caused me to cancel a sale. I learned too late that one person who returned a puppy this year has done it at least one other time. Wouldn't it have been nice for me to be able to know that beforehand?
I know that you have to be frustrated...3 times out of out 5 litters is a lot to have a buyer return. With that said (written) I think it's a big mistake to start a "Hall of Shame". You said that you do an internet search on all people before you sell them a puppy....well, what if they also do internet search on you (or any buyer, for that matter) and happen to come across this thread....the idea of starting your Hall of Shame might cause a few of these



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I think it's important for the breeder to know their dogs and to try and place each puppy in a home that is appropriate for him/her. They may all be Yorkies but they aren't little cookie cutter dogs. Some are just little love bugs that will do well in almost any environment so long as they are loved and cared for. Some are more sporty and really need a yard to play in. They are true TERRIERS with a high energy level and to place such a dog in an apartment would crush his spirit and lead to behavior problems. When I speak with prospective owners, I try to find out enough about their living situation so that I can steer them to a puppy that would be a good fit. A Yorkie is so much more than size, sex and coat quality. They are individuals just as any dog owner is. So far, I've never had a pup returned although every new owner is told that if, for any reason things don't work out, to return the puppy to me. Also, I've seen a few disturbing comments on this thread regarding the OP's BUSINESS and making a SALE. Anyone that breeds has made a SALE and has made a BUSINESS agreement with the new OWNER, no matter how much you care for your dogs. I don't know the OP so I can't make any insinuations about her motivations and, unless you do, please lighten up. As far as a 'customer from hell' list, anytime you say something negative about a person publicly you are exposing yourself to legal repercussions. I don't think returning a puppy because of 'allergies' or whatever would be enough to go public with it although you could privately warn other breeders if you felt the need to.

so true
they are individuals with personalities and different energy levels
matching them to the right owners takes prayer
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I know that you have to be frustrated...3 times out of out 5 litters is a lot to have a buyer return. With that said (written) I think it's a big mistake to start a "Hall of Shame". You said that you do an internet search on all people before you sell them a puppy....well, what if they also do internet search on you (or any buyer, for that matter) and happen to come across this thread....the idea of starting your Hall of Shame might cause a few of these



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If not having a house is a reason for someone not to sell a dog to me -(not that I'm looking for one) ... then screw them that seems to be very discrimatory... but I'd like to be the one to make the choice not the 'seller'.

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