More customers from hell--

[mayfateleadyou]

Originally Posted by belindaY

they had their own home, which is one of our requirements. I prefer older people who have had small dogs before,

I understand that each breeder has their own preferance but please don't make these mandatory everytime. I'm 20 and rent but I support myself and my babies are spoiled rotten. Screening is very important but make sure you get to really know the person. I would have gone to a rescue before I got stormy but because of my age and that I don't own or have a fenced in yard I couldn't. So anyhoo please take into consideration that young people can definitely be a good home! But I also would never suggest a yorkie for a first time dog owner. Hope your baby finds a wonderful home! And I agree you should see what you can do to prevent this couple from doing this to another good breeder. No baby deserves to be thrown away!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by belindaY

The yorkies are wonderful, but the people, probably can't describe them on here. And this particular couple, young professional, ivy educated types...

I guess I'm wondering what that last sentence was supposed to imply, exactly?

[yorkiegirl83]

Many people will think yorkies are hypoallergenic based on faulty information they read on the web or by looking at lists of so called "hypoallergenic" breeds. They will then buy the puppy assuming everything will be ok and it turns out not to be, and they have to return the puppy.

I have been through this before however I haven't returned my babies, I kept them and did all I could to manage through.

It's a very common misconception that certain dogs are safe for those w/allergies and it's really untrue however sometimes people aren't educated enough to know this ahead of time.

I'm sorry that it didn't work out for them, but am glad you could take the baby back to find it an appropriate home.

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by belindaY

My puppies' welfare always comes first, and I did take the puppy back with full refund, but I find I NEED IDEAS ON HOW TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE. This is scary because I thought I was being careful and selective about the homes my puppies go to. I don't understand how someone could be allergic to dogs and not know it before taking one home. I make it VERY clear to customers that I will buy back my Yorkies any time, for any reason, and I totally mean that, but it is not my intention to be sending puppies off with people who think they can just try them out. This has happened three times out of five litters in the past year. I'm thinking of starting a Hall of Shame directory or something like that where breeders can report customers who should not be sold dogs. I do an internet search on all customers before my dogs leave home, just in case there's something there I should know. Once some info came back that caused me to cancel a sale. I learned too late that one person who returned a puppy this year has done it at least one other time. Wouldn't it have been nice for me to be able to know that beforehand?

i guess beware of first time puppy owners..try to find owners that have one dog already

[bessoRN]

But how does one become an owner of furbabies if breeders look for people who already have them?

Lorisha

[Punkin&Piper]

People are such pains! I would probably take it back and give a 95% refund and maybe they will learn their lesson to check stuff out before you purchase an animal. Who in the heck is allergic to a yorkie anyway..

[nancyfancypants]

Maybe someone in the family was genuinely allergic. Unfortunately, it sounds like you needed to give this family the benefit of the doubt and will need to resell the pup. However, sellers should not always assume the worst: that people are making excuses.

A couple things you can do to protect yourself in the future are (from a business point of view):

- Asking in your standard questioning whether there is anyone in the family with allergies. Whether they answer yes or no, you should explain that although this is a non-shedding breed, that is no guarantee that there won't be any kind of reaction.

- Generating a return policy of some kind. I know that we're talking about a living creature here, but this would be for the puppy's well being and safety as well as your own sanity.

- Use your past not-so-great selling experiences to develop your return policy and your questionnaire.

You sound like a breeder who genuinely cares about her pups going to a good home. I hope this is helpful; good luck!

[chattiesmom]

No matter how careful we are as breeders, occasionally a pup will be placed in a home that just doesn't work. I would definately take the pup back, as you did. I would also take the pup to my vet for a thorough check up and have a fecal done to be sure that the little one was free from parasites and deduct this vet visit along with the deposit (if any) and fees for advertising for a new home from the total amount that I refunded.

Some of my very best forever homes have been to people who have never had a yorkie before. They have kept in touch and we have developed close relationships. Belinda, it's just hard work, placing pups.... we do the very best we can for each pups, and occasionally things just don't work out.

I wish you the very best of luck in placing the little one. They are so precious and each deserves to be loved.

[YorkieRose]

I posted my way of doing this some time back and a few breeders thought I was out of order asking for references from vets etc..

I do not let puppies leave the first time a person comes to see them. I prefer a deposit at 8 weeks and they may leave at 12 to 16 weeks...I encourage a visit once a month..sometimes I can manage twice a month...

I want a vet reference as to how the person cared for their last pet or current pets..and quite honestly, I do not place with people who have never had a Yorkie or toy dog in the past. There are so many good breeders who do and I have decided to be one who does not...so it evens out..and I am happy to refer to a breeder who has puppies waiting for homes...so no one cares what rule I make.

I certainly understand your point about not wanting to "lend" out your pups to see how it all goes...that is not fair to you, but I give every one two weeks to decide if it is a done deal...and of course you may return the dog at any time in their life for any reason..but I will not buy it back. I will find a good home for it. If it is resold, I will deduct my expenses and pass the rest to the owner.
Good Luck

PS..I do request a well puppy visit if the person is returning a puppy...only fair to me and my other dogs. I have ahd two returned in the last 20 yrs or so..both forgot what it was like to have a new puppy in the house, as the old ones were so old they slept alot...

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by bessoRN

But how does one become an owner of furbabies if breeders look for people who already have them?

Lorisha

five litters in one year?
find people who are smart enough to get 2 puppies.. and mature enoiugh
to know what it takes.. and rich enough to provide it.. that only means
smart enough to know it costs money to have dogs.
time and money..
with age comes wisdom
at least 30 years old or as smart as a 30 year old..
even people with less money can have dogs if they can provide the basic necessities..
good food...grooming supplies.. x pens and fencing..crates and beds and toys..
set a higher standard when choosing new owners
i guess the best breeders have buyers waiting and choose from a waiting list..
in a perfect world..

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I posted my way of doing this some time back and a few breeders thought I was out of order asking for references from vets etc..

I do not let puppies leave the first time a person comes to see them. I prefer a deposit at 8 weeks and they may leave at 12 to 16 weeks...I encourage a visit once a month..sometimes I can manage twice a month...

I want a vet reference as to how the person cared for their last pet or current pets..and quite honestly, I do not place with people who have never had a Yorkie or toy dog in the past. There are so many good breeders who do and I have decided to be one who does not...so it evens out..and I am happy to refer to a breeder who has puppies waiting for homes...so no one cares what rule I make.

I certainly understand your point about not wanting to "lend" out your pups to see how it all goes...that is not fair to you, but I give every one two weeks to decide if it is a done deal...and of course you may return the dog at any time in their life for any reason..but I will not buy it back. I will find a good home for it. If it is resold, I will deduct my expenses and pass the rest to the owner.
Good Luck

PS..I do request a well puppy visit if the person is returning a puppy...only fair to me and my other dogs. I have ahd two returned in the last 20 yrs or so..both forgot what it was like to have a new puppy in the house, as the old ones were so old they slept alot...

if you only had 2 dogs returned in twenty years, you must be doing it right.

i guess as a breeder we cant dont be too quick to get the dogs adopted.. just because there are so many
if the breeder is having too many puppies.. then ask why?

[YorkieRose]

[QUOTE=cesar49;2141520]if you only had 2 dogs returned in twenty years, you must be doing it right.

You have to take into account, a breeder of 35 yrs has long time pet owners they deal with...last year 4 people lost old pets..and since I am semi retired, that was enough homes...one lady got a great-granddaughter of her lost pet...she was beyond happy..it will no doubt be her last pet, since her girl lived 17 yrs.

[YorkieRose]

If you have had 5 litters in 12 months...and a conservative count would be 15pups...3 returned is no doubt average for a volume breeder..no disrespect intended...just the law of averages.

[mscat]

I guess some breeders would not have thought I would of been a good owner of a Yorkie. I rent, am disabled, and suzi is my first yorkie. However, she is happy, healthy, and very much loved. Suzi has all the toys a dog could ask for, sees the vet regulary and is socialized. She is my service dog in training , and is a member of our family.
My point is that if a breeder really want the puppies to go to a good home, then it takes time getting to know the people ... But, it is not foolproof.
I am glad you have the puppy and can find a better, home for him. I understand your frustration, but it is difficult to know for sure what is going to happen when a puppy leaves to a new home.
My Suzi is my baby, and she is spoiled rotten. I'd never give her up. I have the funds to take care of her and give her a happy, healthy life.

[Thorsmomma]

Take the puppy back. No matter if they are lying or not, they want to get rid of the dog, and you want a good like for the dog too.

Thought; Do you think that many people with allergies get yorkies because they are known to be hypoallergenic dogs? I've seen lots of instances where people need to rehome because of allergies, and I'm wondering if they are allergic to dogs, and figure they won't be to yorkies....