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Old 06-21-2008, 07:51 PM   #31
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testing does not make a person a better breeder.. if there is one puppy in a litter with a disease, the entire breeding program needs to be ended.. those males and females need to be fixed.. no testing needed.. just retire them to be happy pets.. if you want to breed again, then get new healthy puppies.. and wait 2 years for them to grow up...
i asked my vet about testing, and she said it was not necessary..
if i see symptoms of illness, then it will be time to test.. and no one is drawing blood from my dogs jugular vein.. this is my definition of responsible..
thanks yt for teaching me from your experiences..
good post..thanks!!!!! I also want to post this thread so anyone interested could have a look at it.. it was made by kyblue
talk about testing.. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...ink-about.html
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i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong.. it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..
I agree, animals live in the moment they do not dwell on the past (thank god). Anyone who feels that their animal fears from what happened in the past, unless it was physical abuse, is anthropomorphizing (applying human emotions). Count your blessings that they do not harbor the feelings of the past that we do. If you show them love, companionship and support that is what they will remember.

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i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong.. it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..
I quite agree. I do believe it affects some more differently than others, though.

When I got my Sassy, she was a year old. A few months after I got her, the breeders visited us. She treated them like strangers. Growling, barking, refusing to go near them. Actually, wanting to bite them when they tried to get her. LOL
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Hi I have been breeding about 2 or 3 litters a year of my Champion Sired females and have always sold my babies within a few weeks of birth. This is the first time in over 25 years that I still have puppies which will be 3 months old. There are so many people out there selling puppies you don't no what you are getting anymore. They are treating these babies like livestock for goodness sake.
I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that.
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I'm looking for a yorkie to add to my family, but can't find one I can afford the purchase fee for! I just found one on craigslist that I'm hoping I can get...but it's probably already gone!!!!

I live in NC.

I absolutely think it's the economy AND the fact that you have so many "hobby breeders" and byb's nowadays that the competition is just to much!

I'm sorry to hear you are so negatively affected. I'm actually surprised you have any puppies left!!

Do you have a website? Photos? I'd love to see them!
My number 2 comment: A good breeder would NEVER advertise on craiglists...that is a scam waiting to happen. They either have there own websites or they are word of mouth....IMO experience anyways
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Watch what you say about the hobby breeder.. if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
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I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that.
She may have meant that they've already been sold by the time they are that age, not necessarily that they've already left to their new homes.
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"I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that."

Not necessarily. My vet, who is excellent with Yorkies, recommends they go to their new homes at 8 weeks. That is when they start to bond to people and he believes they need to be in their new home, not with me and their mom. I personally keep them to 10 weeks, but I sure have their new parents visiting by 6-8 weeks if at all possible to help the bonding process.
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"My number 2 comment: A good breeder would NEVER advertise on craiglists...that is a scam waiting to happen. They either have there own websites or they are word of mouth....IMO experience anyways"

Not necessarily. There are lots of tools at our disposal now to let people know that we have puppies for sale. We should be able to use them. Because in the end it is always the personal meetings and screenings that will tell a breeder if a person will make a good owner for their puppy. Screening is our responsibility regardless of how the person "found" you.
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I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that.
I think she meant to say that it's unusal for her to have her pups at 3 months old with no family set for them. She never mentioned releasing them before 3 months.
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As unpopular as my view will be in this discussion, I believe it to be true. The reason anyone is having a difficult time selling puppies these days is not so much the economy but the fact that so many people are breeding yorkies anymore. I'm not saying anything against any specific breeder, person or trying to single any out, it's simply that there are many more breeders than ever before. When I first joined YT, there were breeders but not near the number that are currently active on the forum.

Maybe the supply is now far outweighing the demand?
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As unpopular as my view will be in this discussion, I believe it to be true. The reason anyone is having a difficult time selling puppies these days is not so much the economy but the fact that so many people are breeding yorkies anymore. I'm not saying anything against any specific breeder, person or trying to single any out, it's simply that there are many more breeders than ever before. When I first joined YT, there were breeders but not near the number that are currently active on the forum.

Maybe the supply is now far outweighing the demand?
I agree that the supply is possibly outweighing the demand but the economy coupled with that is definitely the deciding factor. Plus unsuspecting folks will go to that person that is charging $500 vs the person askin $1800 and up when they want a pet for their family.
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I had two boys last year.. they were 12 weeks before I even thought of doing one interview on who would get one of my boys.. I have one girl right now.. and am not even thinking about it.. and don't until they are 12 weeks old..and I did not come to yt to sell puppies.. I would never say never.. but I do not see if as I do not want to ship.

I also might add that yes there are more breeders by far then when I got my first yorkie 18 years ago.. or better.. a yorkie was 600.00 at a high price,

So over the years it would make one wonder when breeders have become so plentiful .....that the prices would be so high..makes me wonder really...

I have a one year old that was 2,500.. a male that was 2.200 another male that was 2,500...
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When I first got into breeding many moons ago. There were only a few really good breeders in an area. But it was more a hobby and a love of doing it. I had people waiting 8 months for a new baby. They were sold or shall I say had contracts on them all the first few weeks of life. I also never had a room packed to the floor to ceiling with poor innocent animals either nor had I heard of such a thing. Now that is all you hear about. I think the reputable breeders started to raise their prices to set there babies apart from the mass produced puppies. We spend a lot of time loving and feeding and socializing our babies. Now we have to compete with someone charging $500.00 for a puppy and a few years down the road we will get a call from someone crying about how sick their dog is that they bought. Its hard times but its very sad when you pick up a newspaper and there are more dogs for sale than jobs in the classifieds
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I have run into this problem for about 2 years now. People DO NOT want to wait for a quality pup, they WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! And then the puppy MUST be a T-CUP, guaranteed, and they MUST have breeding rights also. And with all the other "alternative" registries, the bybr's and the pet stores that accept payments and charge cards, its almost impossible to sell a good quality pup anymore for a decent price. And now with the economy, people dont want to drive either, they just want you to post pictures. How can you tell anything by that? You can post any bogus picture you want. I have seen alot of people selling puppies by the road side lately also. I guess they are trying to temp the people on major routes to the stores or on the way home from work.
You are so right! Many people just want a yorkie. They don't care about backgrounds, genetics, etc. and when you can purchase an AKC pup for $400, the good, responsible breeders are SOL.

Summer time is not a great time to have pups. People are going on vacation, etc. I only breed once a year and I skip the summer pups. Just have too much going on.
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