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Old 06-21-2008, 04:50 PM   #16
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I'm looking for a yorkie to add to my family, but can't find one I can afford the purchase fee for! I just found one on craigslist that I'm hoping I can get...but it's probably already gone!!!!

I live in NC.

I absolutely think it's the economy AND the fact that you have so many "hobby breeders" and byb's nowadays that the competition is just to much!

I'm sorry to hear you are so negatively affected. I'm actually surprised you have any puppies left!!

Do you have a website? Photos? I'd love to see them!
Watch what you say about the hobby breeder.. if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
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Are these the pics???
That first baby is to die for...so freakin cute!!!
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Yes that is Duey I am the worst photographer. My kids tell me it is because I probably have one of the first digital cameras ever made LOL! I will try and get some better ones on soon!
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Watch what you say about the hobby breeder.. if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
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Sorry I don't have a website but would be more than glad to send you some pictures
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You know, I've never understood and I never will, how someone can just up and part with a member of their family! I love my babies and wouldn't part with them unless there was absolutely no other way for them to have a good life. The same as I would treat my children. I breaks my heart for all the pets who get passed around like an old pair of jeans. The poor little things have to wonder what in the world is going on.
We adopted Daisy from a nice family who couldn't keep her and I know it will forever effect her. She's very attached to us, but so scared that I'll leave her. It makes it hard to even leave her at the groomers. I know she's worried the whole time I'm gone.


i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong.. it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..
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Hi I have been breeding about 2 or 3 litters a year of my Champion Sired females and have always sold my babies within a few weeks of birth. This is the first time in over 25 years that I still have puppies which will be 3 months old. There are so many people out there selling puppies you don't no what you are getting anymore. They are treating these babies like livestock for goodness sake.


geez the encomy is slow and i am here to tell you i am a very small breeder/show person and i have champion lines and own a champion
and i do not blame this on hobbie breeder's most test and do what they need to do just because you have champion lines at this date and time does not mean you are not a hobby breeder do you show? if not what set's you apart from the rest of the hobby breeder's there is many with champion lines
and testing well yeah it need's to be done but has left a sour grape in my mouth

times are tough and babies are being born with unsure future's maybe hobby breeder'a and such need to slow down and breed less for awhile
and three months old i don't even think about letting my babies go until 3 months old which is 12 week's so what's the hurry if they don't sell have your lines tested as they get older give the public more security in purchasing a puppy make your lines stand out again just because they are champion sired does not mean alot to a wanna be pet owner and it mean's more to the public right now to beable to put gas in there car's than to buy a puppy
and have vet bills' this is an election year people things always get wishy washy during this time and to tell ya you will not set yourself apart comming on her as a neebie just to sell pup's there is alot that do that already

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Watch what you say about the hobby breeder.. if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
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Watch what you say about the hobby breeder.. if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
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I'm actually referring to the "hobby breeders" I know that breed a couple of litters a year from two or three different dogs and DO NOT do any testing, etc. I'm not referring to the responsible breeders. I'm sorry if you misunderstood...
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I'm actually referring to the "hobby breeders" I know that breed a couple of litters a year from two or three different dogs and DO NOT do any testing, etc. I'm not referring to the responsible breeders. I'm sorry if you misunderstood...

testing does not make a person a better breeder.. if there is one puppy in a litter with a disease, the entire breeding program needs to be ended.. those males and females need to be fixed.. no testing needed.. just retire them to be happy pets.. if you want to breed again, then get new healthy puppies.. and wait 2 years for them to grow up...
i asked my vet about testing, and she said it was not necessary..
if i see symptoms of illness, then it will be time to test.. and no one is drawing blood from my dogs jugular vein.. this is my definition of responsible..
thanks yt for teaching me from your experiences..
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I think it's the economy as well as there's alot of people breeding their pets lately.
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i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong.. it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..
From everything that I've read, dogs have a 10 hour kind of memory span where they can harp on one thing. After that, it is not something that they think about all the time. There ARE things that can happen that will remind them of their old owner or whatever. A lot of times dogs that have serious problems with being rehomed or whatever don't necessarily think about their owner and miss them so much as the fact that they just don't like being in new situations and the sudden lifestyle change freaks them out.

To the OP: Your babies are SO precious!! I am totally and completly in love.

I'm not sure what the above conversation is all about, but parents should without a doubt be tested before being bred. Don't wait until a puppy gets sick and dies (and breaks an owner's heart) to do the responsible thing. It really is worth the couple hundred dollars it may cost to have them tested to ensure that there aren't any awful genetic illnesses being passed down the lines.

and this is OT: As far as the blood being drawn from the juggular vein, Tucker went in to have a cyst thing looked at, and they took some blood from there. Tucker was perfect, but I passed out lol.
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Everyone says its the economy but if you pick up a newspaper now a days there are 10 ads in the paper all saying the same thing. I no its the economy and people just don't want to drive anymore. But, I no the Amish and all these puppy mills opening up is really affecting the market too. Most people seem to buy pets on impulse not by researching the breed and than finding a reputable breeder. I no I have had at least 1 call a week for someone that doesn't want there pet anymore and wants me to take it in and find a home.
I have run into this problem for about 2 years now. People DO NOT want to wait for a quality pup, they WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! And then the puppy MUST be a T-CUP, guaranteed, and they MUST have breeding rights also. And with all the other "alternative" registries, the bybr's and the pet stores that accept payments and charge cards, its almost impossible to sell a good quality pup anymore for a decent price. And now with the economy, people dont want to drive either, they just want you to post pictures. How can you tell anything by that? You can post any bogus picture you want. I have seen alot of people selling puppies by the road side lately also. I guess they are trying to temp the people on major routes to the stores or on the way home from work.
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I'm actually referring to the "hobby breeders" I know that breed a couple of litters a year from two or three different dogs and DO NOT do any testing, etc. I'm not referring to the responsible breeders. I'm sorry if you misunderstood...
No problem at all.. I have been so hurt by good breeders.. and yes show breeders also.. so I would never allow myself to personally put any of that onto some one knowingly... I could not live with myself..I breed as I love the yorkie breed and I had to quit working way too early in life.. I needed something to do that I was able to do and something I love..I am also not saying all show breeders are bad... but like anything.. there can be unscrupulous people at what ever in life.. I have seen some god awful ugly yorkies that are not even close to the breed be sold also.. and I too would love to shut down all the puppy mills.. in face in Quebec Canada there are no laws to be able to go after puppy mill owners at all.. that place is run with them.. I be more then the amish country..and those people do not care about the pets they are breeder what so ever..I would have shown years ago also.. but in Canada it is not that easy to get a mentor.. if your not in the crowd sort of thing..they are not nice people.. when I first came on yt.. I was amazed at how nice show breeders actually can be.. I was in fact shocked but so glad to see them being so helpful to others..But they are also all from the States too.. and even some of them would tell you that their are show breeders that think so much of themselves they have no time to smell the roses..
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I no exactly what you are saying....it makes you mad that you have to compete with someone who is just out to make money not caring at all to better the breed, feeding their dogs garbage food with no vitamins or love. It makes you want to stand on the side of the road and say " hey at least look and touch my babies and than if you don't want them I could understand. The pictures I take of my babies make them look like little monsters LOL! Dog lover I am photographer I am not. As far as dogs memories go. I have tried to place older dogs and they are miserable for days, weeks not just hours. I think a puppy might not have a long memory span but I no my older girls sure do. So, I no if I get a dog it is forever and I truely hope and pray that anyone that is lucky enough to get a baby from me feels that same way.
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