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Old 03-25-2008, 11:25 AM   #136
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Sorry I didn't realize it was hard to read I too have mine font big too. As far as long post well I'm just one who trys to explain things, not to draw it out or things like that...I am a talker in person. & Donna thanks for not getting mad at me for saying U're straight forward.


As far as Galahad and Sages' heats I understand totally why some of U didn't answer and that is fine, I'm not mad over it...Just wondering about it to learn. I tried to find out what a modified coat is & heat cycles on here but still don't fully understand them both yet.



I can honestly say I have made NO money in raising Yorkies, I feel it's because I put any money from adopting our puppies out is put back into our Yorkies. I do tend to buy costly items for them but this is my choice.

I am not in competition with anyone else and I am breeding for myself first off. I simply keep trudging along bettering my own program and will always be working towards that goal.
I think you will find some that are caught up in the my dog is better than your dog attitude, and are what we call kennel blind, where they think only their dogs/program is worthy and only the lines they work with are the best etc..
I can appreciate the hard work of others and I am proud of what I have done with mine and I don't feel insecure that I cannot compliment others. So I do compliment others dogs I think its great to see breeders and exhibitors being positive of each others hard work but so often you don't see it.
There are a lot of nice dogs out there, they may not be exactly the type I breed for or from the lines I work with, but they are still indeed very nice Yorkies.
I think that is the key to being able to grow is not getting caught up in being kennel blind.


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I have to agree with U on this. For instant: We was use to our Yorkies only (Teddys' cottony coat & being smaller, Tiffanies' silk coat and being heavier and all our babies has had really thick coats) before we got Sage, her being from another line (Tami please don't take this the wrong way, I love her dearly and she is one beautiful baby!!! And I'm proud we have her!!) we wasn't use to her being thin, longer snout, and her coat being thin, everyone made comments to us U paid what for that dog, why I wouldn't of. Well they didn't understand the whys of it all and that we was wanting to improve our breeding with her. But now since we've had her for awhile her beauty has come to grow on us, see if we would of had Sage 1st and not ours I think we would of felt the same way. I know there are more beautiful Yorkies out there then ours but I still love mine and they are my beauties to me. I'm not showing and I'm in no competition with anyone else either. I just love the Yorkie breed and love learning about them. I like how U put it about being Kennel Blind I'll keep that in mind guess I too was Kennel Blind when we got Sage!
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:50 AM   #137
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Kennel Blindness:
The link for those of you that want to bookmark it or send it on to others.


http://www.akc.org/enewsletter/akc_b...rch/kennel.cfm

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Old 03-25-2008, 11:55 AM   #138
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Well girls there is so much more to Kennel Blindness than that
Here is a bit more food for thought. I have been around a while




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Yes I know all that but again, to bring something new to your breeding program it will still be what you want your lines to look like and your preference. I'm not saying stay with one breeder or mentor because there are several lines, breeders I like and prefer as you will yours and others theirs
Most kennel blindness that goes around that I see is they can't see their own faults within the breed or their lines or lines of others.
I will use what I feel describes the standard as I see it but that doesn't mean I'm kennel blind I see many yorkies that are pretty and deserve a championship but not necessarily my type of dog and the type I'd bring into my breeding program. Just because some have been in this for years and years doesn't mean us newer to breeding and showing haven't done our homework as well I have found those that have been doing this for years have become kennel blind and please don't take offense to this but I've seen it myself happen
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:01 PM   #139
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I don't take any offense I just think that when someone corrects me and says this is actually what kennel blindness is, I should share with everyone the link to show exactly what kennel blindness conisists of.

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I don't take any offense I just think that when someone corrects me and says this is actually what kennel blindness is, I should share with everyone the link to show exactly what kennel blindness conisists of.

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I am sorry it wasn't about correcting you and for that I apologize but it is all in preference and taste and again that is just my opinion. There are several breeders and lines I do like and some I don't, they may be correct and then again they may not be but just because I like certain lines or breeders doesn't mean I'm kennel blind nor you or anyone else it's again just preference in types that we like and bring into our breeding program

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I always study the standard and I try to follow the standard and when I see yorkies in the ring with crippled rears, bad top lines, bad fronts I"m guessing those breeders and owners are "kennel blind" or am I the one being kennel blind according to the link from AKC that was posted? I don't care what kennel they are from whether it be the one I bought from or someone else's I'm still not going to like a dog that has a bad topline, bad front or a crippled rear, does that still mean I'm the one kennel blind or the other? Please let me know so I can learn from this discussion. Maybe I interputed things wrong?
I just want to get an understanding so I'm not mis-informed. I know my dogs faults and their sires and dams sides faults, if there are health issues and I try and breed correctly. I want the breed standard so that is what I breed for but I also know the type I like along with knowing what others like.

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What I take from the article is you have to be open to seeing and appreciating the good in someones breeding program when you do see it.
Not just always looking for and picking out what you do not like in someones lines all the time.
What I think of is like being open minded.
I can appreciate a nice dog when I see a nice dog no matter whose kennel it is from.
And it would be nuts to add dogs that are not your preference in your program and we all understand that I would think LOL
I have the lines I like and I am at the point where I will be adding a new male to our home this year to compliment and fit in our program and it will be based upon what we are looking for to fit our program.

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What I take from the article is you have to be open to seeing and appreciating the good in someones breeding program when you do see it.
Not just always looking for and picking out what you do not like in someones lines all the time.
What I think of is like being open minded.
I can appreciate a nice dog when I see a nice dog no matter whose kennel it is from.
And it would be nuts to add dogs that are not your preference in your program and we all understand that I would think LOL
I have the lines I like and I am at the point where I will be adding a new male to our home this year to compliment and fit in our program and it will be based upon what we are looking for to fit our program.

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Thanks for your interpation of the article. I agree, I have no problem in that either. In fact, in our area there are some nice dogs. When I refer to kennel blindness tho is when one can't see the faults within their own program and have the nerve to put down others when they need to take a good hard look at their own
So, thanks for your interputation
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Thanks for your interpation of the article. I agree, I have no problem in that either. In fact, in our area there are some nice dogs. When I refer to kennel blindness tho is when one can't see the faults within their own program and have the nerve to put down others when they need to take a good hard look at their own
So, thanks for your interputation
I think if someone feels that other breeders need to take a good look at their own program that would insinuate that this person has made the statement they feel they have perfected their program and are now telling others to take a look at their breeding program, otherwise they would still be too busy with their own program to be worrying about someone elses? And as we all know there is no perfect dog so their is no perfect breeding program and when one feels they have finished studying and finished improving they have become dangerous to a breed.


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This comment in no way is directed at anyone in paticular.
Just want to make sure no confusion on that matter.

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I don't think there would be any confusion since you were commenting on my post And I agree there is no perfect yorkie and as I've stated many times when I stop learning it's time to get out of the breed and showing

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I've also heard of "kennel-blind" meaning that a breeder can't accurately evaluate their own dogs. They are blind to their dogs faults basically.

in the Field trials my hubby's beagles are in, when they talk "kennel blind" it means that the judges will put anything from a certain kennel as winner. I guess it kind of like some AKC judges in conformation go for who is at the end of the lead instead of the dogs qualities.
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in the Field trials my hubby's beagles are in, when they talk "kennel blind" it means that the judges will put anything from a certain kennel as winner. I guess it kind of like some AKC judges in conformation go for who is at the end of the lead instead of the dogs qualities.
LOL so now we have three definitions...and they all make sense
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My wife goes nuts whenever I say something 'critical' about one of our dogs. She thinks I don't love this one as much as that one when all I'm trying to do is have an honest eye for what I see. We just had puppies in January from our best-pedigreed dogs (their first litter). The male is a great looking guy while the female, though from a more esteemed pedigree, grew to be not as good a representation as I had hoped for. I must say I'm glad I paired them up as the puppies (2 females, 1 male) look to be, at 9 weeks, better representations of the breed than either of the parents. I'm just saying this to illustrate that it isn't necessarily the 'best dog' that produces the best pups but that a good match can be just as important. It must be true that the better traits do try to express themselves.
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My wife goes nuts whenever I say something 'critical' about one of our dogs. She thinks I don't love this one as much as that one when all I'm trying to do is have an honest eye for what I see.
As my older daughters say about me all the time "Don't Come Between a Woman And Her Yorkies" That is cute tho how U're wife goes nuts whenever U say something critical about one of U're dogs.
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