Bladder Stones information - YorkieTalk.com Forums

YorkieShadow · 07-24-2007, 06:45 PM

Wanted to post these links, seems like theres more and more of us posting about our little ones having Crystals/ stones and I found these two great links that have lots of information on them.

Bladder Stones
Introduction
Cause
Symptoms
Diagnosis
Composition
Medical Treatment
Surgical Treatment
Prevention
Dietary Information

http://lbah.com/canine/urolithiasis.htm

another good link is
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...?P=PRINT&A=662

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=400

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dbladder.html

YorkieShadow · 07-24-2007, 06:51 PM

Also wanted to post this forthe ones who want to know a little more about the different prescrition foods .

http://www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/prod...=1170787196950

joey301 · 10-06-2007, 11:17 AM

Thanks for this information. My Smartypants was just diagnosed with bladder stones. The vet did not get a successful urinalysis though. His stones are small crystals and he shows no symptoms except trouble and increased frequency of urination.
joey

Yorkiekids · 10-06-2007, 11:57 AM

I'm so sorry we have so many sick babies on here now. Thanks for the links, but I hope I'll never need to use them.

2Parises · 10-07-2007, 07:17 PM

I wanted to bump this... It's great information.

I think some of these things go undiagnosed and the result is "my yorkie isn't housebroken".

If people just knew that "accidents" are sometimes the symptom for a bladder infection caused by crystals and stones... they wouldn't be so quick to get upset.

YorkieShadow · 10-07-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joey301

Thanks for this information. My Smartypants was just diagnosed with bladder stones. The vet did not get a successful urinalysis though. His stones are small crystals and he shows no symptoms except trouble and increased frequency of urination.
joey

increased frequency of urination was the first sign my male showed. then it went so straining to pee then to not being able to pee at all. al the small sand like crstals built up in one spot and blocked him. his stones was also small crystals like sand.
Did your vet put him on a pecial food to try and help desolve them? did he try and wash.flush them out of his bladder this dont always work with a male. Mickey had it done 3 times./ is he having surgery to remove them? if hes not doing any of these things I would get a second opinion. keeping the little one in my prayers.

YorkieShadow · 10-07-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Parises

I wanted to bump this... It's great information.

I think some of these things go undiagnosed and the result is "my yorkie isn't housebroken".

If people just knew that "accidents" are sometimes the symptom for a bladder infection caused by crystals and stones... they wouldn't be so quick to get upset.

Thank you and I agree. theres so many threads out there where members are thinking their dogs just being bad. and their not their in pain and need medical attention. the off peeing is their sign to show some thing is not right.

dcapper · 10-07-2007, 08:51 PM

My little guy had stones. Unfortunately they were too large and he had an emergency operation to remove them and had a slit cut so he can pee. So basically he's an it since he squats to pee now. He has polycitrate in his food now so he won't get the stones again. This was many years ago and he's been good ever since.

YorkieShadow · 10-07-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dcapper

My little guy had stones. Unfortunately they were too large and he had an emergency operation to remove them and had a slit cut so he can pee. So basically he's an it since he squats to pee now. He has polycitrate in his food now so he won't get the stones again. This was many years ago and he's been good ever since.

Hi My Mickey had his removed by surgery.hes on U/D pre food
Theres another member here that has a dog that had the same thing done as your dog had done.

YorkieShadow · 10-07-2007, 09:13 PM

As you can see my little Mickey went through it all too. and its a very terrible thing to have happen to them. and I started out asking what to do. so dont be afraid to ask if your dog is having problems peeing.

Below is all the threads I had started when my little male was going through it all. feel free to read up on them and there is a lot of info on most of them.

Here is the links to Mickeys stones and surgery pictures.
How did you all ever keep up.

when it all started.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82116

Mickeys vet visit today May 21st his last apt
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80719

Here's Mickey / New Pictures
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80334

Monday 14/ Mickeys update with Pic's
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79852

CAUTION111 Mickeys incision pictures
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79433

My Little boys prayer thread.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79337

Mickey's pee has slowed down a bit today...
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79250

Mickey's Update
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78802

On My way to ER VET/ Pray for Mickey/ PLEASE
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78669

Mickey's outside pictures from today
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80442

Mickey and I want to say
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79793

I made Minnie a vet apt....
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80074

OH MY GOSH Please read
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79978

Well I talked to the main guy at
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79963

I have a Question
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79957

Thank you from Mickey and Yorkieshadow.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79411

Taking Mickey and Minnie to the vets / Please keep them in your prayers
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75184

joey301 · 10-08-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

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Did your vet put him on a pecial food to try and help desolve them? did he try and wash.flush them out of his bladder this dont always work with a male. Mickey had it done 3 times./ is he having surgery to remove them? if hes not doing any of these things I would get a second opinion. keeping the little one in my prayers.

Yes, the vet put Smarty on Royal Canine SO vet food and said no treats. I have read that some foods are safe, but for at least for now, it's just the special food. He does not seem to mind, and contrary to what I have read about other foods, this one claims to be a balanced diet. He is also on antibiotics, even though there has never been a urinalysis or bacterial culture performed. He can still pee, and he is not spotting around the house the way he was, so hopefully, it is not getting worse. The vet said this diet will go for at least 4 weeks, although I don't know how quickly I should see some benefit. thanks for the info.

joey

Rem&Silkmom · 10-08-2007, 12:21 PM

My Remmy has two sugeries last year for bladder stones. 6000 dollars later he is doing much better. He was a good boy and never went potty in the house. That is how I knew something was wrong. The vet kept saying that he has behavior issues but how can a perfectly trained dog start peeing in the house. He would pace around all the time and go to the door all the time. He would walk around and dribble pee so it was not like he was lifting his leg and just letting it go. I will share my story and some import information if your baby every gets this.
Remmy's stones were formed from an UTI in the bladder. This is how most stones are formed. It took months of constant vet visits to determine what was wrong with Remmy. I don't blame anyone but the vet should have given me better advice that could have saved me thousands of dollars.
1st if you suspect that your baby may have stones have them do a test where dye is injected in the bladder. Many stones will not show up on a regular xray. My vet recommended that I get an ultrasound of the bladder done. I should have gotten the dye done first. Ultrasound is much more expensive on top of the fact that ultrasounds cannot see through bone. So the ultrasound that I got for Remmy was pointless because his stones were hiding behind bones. If I would have gotten the dye test it would have shown up.
Second and most important-this more than likely would have kept him from getting stones a second time. After Remmy's initial surgery the specialist that performed the surgery did not put him on extended antibiotics. They seem to think since the bladder is sterilized during surgery that there is no room for the infection. However, I think it would have been very good for him to be on extended antibiotic to kill any infection present in the bladder. Within six months he had stones again.
The vet did the second surgery and put him on extended antibiotics afterwards and put him on the UD food and he has been fine since then.

Remmy uses the potty normally. He is a good boy and never potties in the house or his crate. I make sure to give him distilled water and keep water out at all times for him. I know if he every has an accident that is the first thing I think it that he might have a bladder infection.

YorkieShadow · 01-14-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rem&Silkmom

My Remmy has two sugeries last year for bladder stones. 6000 dollars later he is doing much better. He was a good boy and never went potty in the house. That is how I knew something was wrong. The vet kept saying that he has behavior issues but how can a perfectly trained dog start peeing in the house. He would pace around all the time and go to the door all the time. He would walk around and dribble pee so it was not like he was lifting his leg and just letting it go. I will share my story and some import information if your baby every gets this.
Remmy's stones were formed from an UTI in the bladder. This is how most stones are formed. It took months of constant vet visits to determine what was wrong with Remmy. I don't blame anyone but the vet should have given me better advice that could have saved me thousands of dollars.
1st if you suspect that your baby may have stones have them do a test where dye is injected in the bladder. Many stones will not show up on a regular xray. My vet recommended that I get an ultrasound of the bladder done. I should have gotten the dye done first. Ultrasound is much more expensive on top of the fact that ultrasounds cannot see through bone. So the ultrasound that I got for Remmy was pointless because his stones were hiding behind bones. If I would have gotten the dye test it would have shown up.
Second and most important-this more than likely would have kept him from getting stones a second time. After Remmy's initial surgery the specialist that performed the surgery did not put him on extended antibiotics. They seem to think since the bladder is sterilized during surgery that there is no room for the infection. However, I think it would have been very good for him to be on extended antibiotic to kill any infection present in the bladder. Within six months he had stones again.
The vet did the second surgery and put him on extended antibiotics afterwards and put him on the UD food and he has been fine since then.

Remmy uses the potty normally. He is a good boy and never potties in the house or his crate. I make sure to give him distilled water and keep water out at all times for him. I know if he every has an accident that is the first thing I think it that he might have a bladder infection.

wow your Remmy's story sounds the same as Mickeys he also just had his 2nd surgery in 6 months apart and after lots of money in vet bills because they also played the guessing game with us causing more vet appts and more pain for my little man. my little man started peeing or straining drbbles in the house right in front of me too, and he too was house trained, I think thats their way of showing us some thing is wrong. Im glad little Remmy is doing good now.

LilDiddyBear · 01-18-2008, 07:23 AM

Thanks so much for posting these links!

Diddy has a bladder infection now and has not gone away after taking antibiotics. I have to take another urine sample in today. He also has crystals in his urine but the vet did not tell me what kind. I had no idea that there was more than one kind. Now I know what questions I should be asking my vet tonight.

dcapper · 01-18-2008, 08:04 AM

Toby was sick with stones. The vet gave me polycitrate crystals to mix with his food. Its cheap and it works great. He hasn't had stones since. That was at least 6 years ago. There also is an operation that Toby had where they cut the base of the penis for peeing. It makes it easier to pass stones if they have any.

07-24-2007, 06:45 PM	#1
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Bladder Stones information Wanted to post these links, seems like theres more and more of us posting about our little ones having Crystals/ stones and I found these two great links that have lots of information on them. Bladder Stones Introduction Cause Symptoms Diagnosis Composition Medical Treatment Surgical Treatment Prevention Dietary Information http://lbah.com/canine/urolithiasis.htm another good link is http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...?P=PRINT&A=662 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=400 http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dbladder.html

07-24-2007, 06:51 PM	#2
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Prescription diet foods Also wanted to post this forthe ones who want to know a little more about the different prescrition foods . http://www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/prod...=1170787196950

10-06-2007, 11:17 AM	#3
joey301 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 36	bladder stones Thanks for this information. My Smartypants was just diagnosed with bladder stones. The vet did not get a successful urinalysis though. His stones are small crystals and he shows no symptoms except trouble and increased frequency of urination. joey

10-06-2007, 11:57 AM	#4
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	I'm so sorry we have so many sick babies on here now. Thanks for the links, but I hope I'll never need to use them. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

10-08-2007, 12:21 PM	#12
Rem&Silkmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 833	Remmy had Stones Also My Remmy has two sugeries last year for bladder stones. 6000 dollars later he is doing much better. He was a good boy and never went potty in the house. That is how I knew something was wrong. The vet kept saying that he has behavior issues but how can a perfectly trained dog start peeing in the house. He would pace around all the time and go to the door all the time. He would walk around and dribble pee so it was not like he was lifting his leg and just letting it go. I will share my story and some import information if your baby every gets this. Remmy's stones were formed from an UTI in the bladder. This is how most stones are formed. It took months of constant vet visits to determine what was wrong with Remmy. I don't blame anyone but the vet should have given me better advice that could have saved me thousands of dollars. 1st if you suspect that your baby may have stones have them do a test where dye is injected in the bladder. Many stones will not show up on a regular xray. My vet recommended that I get an ultrasound of the bladder done. I should have gotten the dye done first. Ultrasound is much more expensive on top of the fact that ultrasounds cannot see through bone. So the ultrasound that I got for Remmy was pointless because his stones were hiding behind bones. If I would have gotten the dye test it would have shown up. Second and most important-this more than likely would have kept him from getting stones a second time. After Remmy's initial surgery the specialist that performed the surgery did not put him on extended antibiotics. They seem to think since the bladder is sterilized during surgery that there is no room for the infection. However, I think it would have been very good for him to be on extended antibiotic to kill any infection present in the bladder. Within six months he had stones again. The vet did the second surgery and put him on extended antibiotics afterwards and put him on the UD food and he has been fine since then. Remmy uses the potty normally. He is a good boy and never potties in the house or his crate. I make sure to give him distilled water and keep water out at all times for him. I know if he every has an accident that is the first thing I think it that he might have a bladder infection. __________________ *Remmy&ChanceMOM*

10-07-2007, 07:17 PM	#5
2Parises Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 951	I wanted to bump this... It's great information. I think some of these things go undiagnosed and the result is "my yorkie isn't housebroken". If people just knew that "accidents" are sometimes the symptom for a bladder infection caused by crystals and stones... they wouldn't be so quick to get upset.

10-07-2007, 08:51 PM	#8
dcapper Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 372	My little guy had stones. Unfortunately they were too large and he had an emergency operation to remove them and had a slit cut so he can pee. So basically he's an it since he squats to pee now. He has polycitrate in his food now so he won't get the stones again. This was many years ago and he's been good ever since.

10-07-2007, 09:13 PM	#10
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	As you can see my little Mickey went through it all too. and its a very terrible thing to have happen to them. and I started out asking what to do. so dont be afraid to ask if your dog is having problems peeing. Below is all the threads I had started when my little male was going through it all. feel free to read up on them and there is a lot of info on most of them. Here is the links to Mickeys stones and surgery pictures. How did you all ever keep up. when it all started. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82116 Mickeys vet visit today May 21st his last apt http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80719 Here's Mickey / New Pictures http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80334 Monday 14/ Mickeys update with Pic's http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79852 CAUTION111 Mickeys incision pictures http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79433 My Little boys prayer thread. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79337 Mickey's pee has slowed down a bit today... http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79250 Mickey's Update http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78802 On My way to ER VET/ Pray for Mickey/ PLEASE http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78669 Mickey's outside pictures from today http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80442 Mickey and I want to say http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79793 I made Minnie a vet apt.... http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80074 OH MY GOSH Please read http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79978 Well I talked to the main guy at http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79963 I have a Question http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79957 Thank you from Mickey and Yorkieshadow. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79411 Taking Mickey and Minnie to the vets / Please keep them in your prayers http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75184

01-18-2008, 07:23 AM	#14
LilDiddyBear Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: PA Posts: 2,772	Thanks so much for posting these links! Diddy has a bladder infection now and has not gone away after taking antibiotics. I have to take another urine sample in today. He also has crystals in his urine but the vet did not tell me what kind. I had no idea that there was more than one kind. Now I know what questions I should be asking my vet tonight. __________________ Amy Mom to Diddy Bear, Posh, and Pika

01-18-2008, 08:04 AM	#15
dcapper Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 372	Toby was sick with stones. The vet gave me polycitrate crystals to mix with his food. Its cheap and it works great. He hasn't had stones since. That was at least 6 years ago. There also is an operation that Toby had where they cut the base of the penis for peeing. It makes it easier to pass stones if they have any. Last edited by dcapper; 01-18-2008 at 08:05 AM.