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Old 05-19-2008, 06:21 AM   #1
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OKay So Diggy starts breaking out in hives saturday night. I gave him benadryl and he reacted well to it and hives went away. 4 hours later more hives in different places so more benadryl then a trip tp the vet Sunday. Vet suspected allergies gave him a shot of steroids and Diggy has been fine. Then Sunday afternoon Bella gets the same exact hives!!!! So then I rush her to the emergency vet because she isnt reacting as well to the benadry it wears off in like 2 hours! It does take the hives down tho. So up all night itching and we are goign to my regualr vet today at 2pm.

Okay i have ran down the list of usuals this could be
No change in food/treats
laundry soap
NO lawn chemicals EVER
no flea treaments or meds of any kind
they didnt get into anything that i know of and i am pretty particular of these little ones.

I have a huge oak tree in back yard throwing off catkins but that happens every year and why would they both react so violently within the same 24 span to seasonal allergies they have never had before???

Can someone PLEASE try and figure this out. Its not adding up to me!! I would love to say oh its got to be the oak....but i dont think so. A bug bite??? Maybe but the bug would have had to have bitten both of them??

Im at a lose here and going on 4 hours sleep in the last 2 days
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:26 AM   #2
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Sorry to hear that Paula. Is it a possibility that the pups may have rolled
around in the grass and got bitten by ants? They seem to be all over this
time of year having awaken to spring. If they were fire ants the pups would
have been in pain but regular ants can bite too.
Hope they are feeling better today.
Take a nap and catch up on some sleep.
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if you look at the hives on this baby they are EXACTLY want Bella and Digs hives looked like. And yes, they are raised. it makes their eyes swell up too I HATE this!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:29 AM   #4
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Sorry to hear that Paula. Is it a possibility that the pups may have rolled
around in the grass and got bitten by ants? They seem to be all over this
time of year having awaken to spring. If they were fire ants the pups would
have been in pain but regular ants can bite too.
Hope they are feeling better today.
Take a nap and catch up on some sleep.


Yes we do have ants and i explained that to the Vet and she thinks thats a possiblity. I just HATE not knowing. I am SO particular with my babies down to bottled water ya know....FRUSTRATING. ants can do this tho?
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Aww Paula I hope they can figure it out. That is really strange. I would think Ants or something like that to.
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Yes we do have ants and i explained that to the Vet and she thinks thats a possiblity. I just HATE not knowing. I am SO particular with my babies down to bottled water ya know....FRUSTRATING. ants can do this tho?

Different ants different bites. Fire ants are bad, big time, however
your pups would be in pain also. Depends what kind of ants are
around. Check the yard out for mounds of dirt and see what kind
of ants are coming and going. Just a thought. Hives come from something
so there has to be something in the yard, I would think.
How about spinder bites? They are another bug who can cause a raised
bump like hive.
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there are a lot of little sand mounds in the cracks of the driveway so i KNOW ants are there...just baffles me as to how they both would be bitten in the same 24 hr time span...I hope it was just an ant bite and they work thru it all.

Oh and as for the ants they are small and a brownish color....i know nothing about ants but I am from the south and my mom always called them "pissants" down there lol
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is it patchy hives welts?? or is it like a bump, pustule or bite? Could it be a sun burn?

Since it got better with a histamine blocker then there must be some sort of systemic histamine response especially since their eyes are swelling too.

It has to be some sort of exposure since they both got it.

I am soooooooooo curious to know what it could be! hmmmmm

Poor babies. Bella sends them both some love and extra kisses for you Paula
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yes they look exactly like the pics on the link i posted. Like there would be 3-5 on their belly at a time. the hives did not look to be like the bite itself when they went down, you could not even see where they were and no bite marks! Id love to know what this is too!!!!

Blotches / hives but no itching

she says no itching in her thread mine DEFINATELY have itching tho.
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yes they look exactly like the pics on the link i posted. Like there would be 3-5 on their belly at a time. the hives did not look to be like the bite itself when they went down, you could not even see where they were and no bite marks! Id love to know what this is too!!!!

Blotches / hives but no itching

she says no itching in her thread mine DEFINATELY have itching tho.
Oh I see the picture and it reminds me of when Buddy was around
1yr and he got those kind of red bumbs in the same area. I went right
to the Vet and he told me it was a doggy form of "Diaper Rash". He gave
me an ointment and it was gone in a couple of days and he never got it
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Oh I see the picture and it reminds me of when Buddy was around
1yr and he got those kind of red bumbs in the same area. I went right
to the Vet and he told me it was a doggy form of "Diaper Rash". He gave
me an ointment and it was gone in a couple of days and he never got it
again.
These actually move around like one clears up and another pops out somewhere else....Diggy had one in his ear even. Bella on her nose!
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These actually move around like one clears up and another pops out somewhere else....Diggy had one in his ear even. Bella on her nose!

Oh! How strange. Yep it does sound like hives. That's how they work.
This is very strange and I'm sure driving you nuts. I just don't know!
Just a thought. Did you put something different in one of those yummy
cookies your making. Maybe trying a different receipe ?
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Oh! How strange. Yep it does sound like hives. That's how they work.
This is very strange and I'm sure driving you nuts. I just don't know!
Just a thought. Did you put something different in one of those yummy
cookies your making. Maybe trying a different receipe ?
Nope not at all! I just hope the vet can figure it out and tell me whats going on. Just a lil peace of mind would help at this point.
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ouch. I didnt see the link the first time

Are they itcy and scratchin?
the hves are annoying but most of the damage comes from licking and scratching.
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ouch. I didnt see the link the first time

Are they itcy and scratchin?
the hves are annoying but most of the damage comes from licking and scratching.
poor babies

Yes they/she is itching. Diggy has stopped but still acts a lil sad Do steroids do that? he got an injection at about 11:30 am yesterday but his hives are completely gone and no itching to speak of really lil bits is all She is ripping hair out!!!! The benedryl makes her stop itching for about 2 hours then back at it I am using the max dose for her size too so Im not completely happy with the results of it. Thanks so much to everyone talking to me about this and replying...helps a lot
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