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08-10-2010, 03:41 PM | #1 |
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| Advice on how to pick a training option So I've decided it's time for some training. While I've had years of horse training experience, and my theory is great, I just am having no luck with Harley and his training. My eventual goal is agility. Harley is fast and extremely athletic and I think we'd stand a chance in the small dog groups. So I have two options here: A group of trainers who I ran into at the park last night. It's $350 for 3 sessions of one on one training in obedience. He said that while Yorkies are tough to train, they CAN be trained. The sessions work different for everyone, working on your specific needs. The sessions are also at your house. A structured group obedience class for 8 classes at 120. There is no way to know the size or skill of the dogs in this class. but it's a lot cheaper. I think I would benefit more from the training one on one, but just don't know if I have the money. At the same time, I want to become a dog trainer, so I think this may be a good foundation... Thoughts? I want him to still be my baby, and I want him to be a pet, but I really have a competitive side, and would love to successfully compete. So I'm torn. I know at this point we have some major obedience issues that need to be snipped at the bud.
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08-20-2010, 11:12 AM | #2 |
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| Start with Agility Clubs/Schools I'd go with the group session, if it is based on positive training methods. For a first class, if it's a puppy class, I think it would be fun and good for your puppy to be around other dogs, for the socialization. Most of your training should come from you anyway. You want your puppy to be able to listen to you around other dogs and distractions. Then, I might go with the private lessons. But, I don't formally train obedience, I just train and compete in agility. Since your ultimate goal is agility, you might start by contacting agility schools or clubs and ask about obedience classes from them or recommendations for obedience classes. They might know of a good obedience club you could join or a good trainer, one who might also do agility. I got this list of agility clubs in Nova Scotia from the AAC (Agility Association of Canada) website. Clubs are listed in alphabetical order. Canine Agility Association of Nova Scotia (CAANS) Bev Lawson 19 Jeffery Lane Wellington, NS B2T 1J4 Email: thelawsons@eastlink.ca Website: caans.ca http://aac.ca/com/_img/Clubs/caans.jpg Fetch Inc Brenda Juskow 80 Joseph Zatzman Drive Dartmouth, NS B3B 1N8 Email: info@fetchinc.ca Website: www.fetchinc.cahttp://aac.ca/com/_img/Clubs/FetchH3.jpg K9 Agility Team Wendy Butler RR#5, 780 Pumping Station Rd Amherst, NS B4H 3Y3 Email: wolfwind@eastlink.ca True North Agility John MacKinley 1 Rothwell St Upper Sackville, NS B4E 3C2 Email: john.mackinley@ns.sympatico.ca Website: www.truenorthagility.com Here is a link to search for agility clubs in Nova Scotia from the Cleanrun website: Clean Run: Agility Clubs and Training Schools There were three clubs listed there and one of them was CAANS.
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08-20-2010, 11:17 AM | #3 |
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| Also, I haven't found my yorkie to be tough to train and judging by some of the other people on this forum training, I don't think other yorkies are either. I really think I take exception to that remark.
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08-20-2010, 04:20 PM | #4 |
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| Thanks for the info. I'm going to look into a bunch of options, some of those are on my list. I'm just on hold for the moment until I get another job.
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08-20-2010, 05:10 PM | #5 |
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| Good luck. I actually think rally obedience looks like it might be fun to do with Liz. I've just never been interested in regular obedience. My dogs all come when called, sit, down and various tricks, but not real obedience stuff. I'll always love doing agility with them. Just training is fun, even if I don't compete. Not that I don't enjoy competing.
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08-20-2010, 05:14 PM | #6 | |
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My boy Razz a Yorkie, certainly was different to train then my BRT;s. At the same age his attention span was much shorter, and as a true terrier he was a bit more stubborn. Is he tough to "train" well I'd have to say different. And he is still very young in his mind and body. Yorkies I think take a bit more time, and patience to proceed ahead with formal obedience training. He is well behind my other two dogs, in facility of picking up new skills, and to be consistent with those skills. Is he Dumb? No way nope not at all. He is still a puppy in his head and with a stubborn streak a mile wide. My boy already has an Agility one and Two Certificate, from a fun club. But he does have a long way to go to equal his Mom's Top Yorkie Obedience Dog and number 3 in the toy group.
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08-20-2010, 07:11 PM | #7 | |
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Liz has been a bright, biddable little dog to train. Maybe it's the females who are easier to train. I just don't think Liz has been tough to train at all. I actually think she has been easy to train. I use a clicker, mostly, and I've only been doing agility for 13 years, with no formal obedience training. As soon as Liz has the weave poles down, and I mean 100%, we can start trialing. My first two IGs I started in agility got through novice without really being good at weaves at all, and it hurt later. So now I am going to make sure Liz is speedy through all 12 poles, with dead on entries, before we enter a trial. Congrats on the obedience titles and Top Yorkie Obedience dog! That's a big deal. I know when my first two IGs were in the top 10 igs in agility I was tickled pink, but of course, there weren't that many IGs doing igility, er, agility, but it still felt great.
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08-20-2010, 07:42 PM | #8 |
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| I wanted to add.... Jackson had been SUPER easy to train. Keep in mind, he was my first dog besides family dogs, I was 18yrs old, and knew next to nothing about dog training. I sat down with him, at 9 weeks old, and decided I probably should teach him a basic 'sit' since every dog knows sit, right?... and when he learned it perfectly within 5 minutes, I got hooked. I realized how incredibly smart he was and by 5 months old, he was playing dead, rolling over, high-five, and the other basic commands. He just loves to learn and always has. Now, at almost 2 years old, he knows over 30 tricks and is constantly learning new things. I wouldn't say he's stubborn, but he typically won't do tricks without treats, unless he is really excited and hyped up about something else, like a new toy or something. But usually toys don't motivate him. I began using the clicker a few months ago and it's been amazing. He's learned double the amount of tricks in a span of a few months than he did in his first year, if that makes sense. Rather than taking 20-25 repetitions for example, he now usually picks up what I want within 10-15 repetitions. I have been trying to find a good agility class around here. I've found a few... I pretty much just want to do it for fun to start. They're all pretty expensive so I've been waiting til a better time financially. The one here is $165 for 8 weeks and it's not even for competition, it specifically says just to learn and for fun.
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08-21-2010, 09:57 AM | #9 |
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| Brit, with your aptitude and motivation, you will become addicted to agility, I know you will. You have done an amazing job with Jackson and the bond you have with him is very apparent in all your videos. This might make you sick, but I pay $90 for six weeks of agility for one dog and $165 now that I have two dogs I'm training. I just started my IG puppy on Thursday. Have you looked into any obedience or agility clubs? They are generally cheaper for training and even cheaper if you become a member of the club. I found the following list of clubs in MD from the AKC website. I don't know which would be closer, but you might contact some of them and maybe they can give you leads to other clubs or trainers. Below is a list of the clubs and all provided contact information we have listed for MD. The clubs are listed alphabetically by city. Search Again. Accakeeh, MD Southern Maryland Kennel Club Information: Website: http://www.smkc.org Classes Offered: Competition Obedience - Open Basic Manners/CGC Rally Conformation Handling Contact(s): Name: Betsy Parbuoni Phone: (301) 934 - 8910 Ext: Email:hrrascal@gmail.com Baltimore, MD Oriole Dog Training Club Information: Email: odtcreg@comcast.net Website: http://www.orioledogclub.org Classes Offered: Obedience Competition Obedience - Novice Competition Obedience - Open Competition Obedience - Utility Basic Manners/CGC Flyball Puppy - STAR Conformation Handling Tracking Agility Contact(s): Name: Club Phone Phone: (410) 298 - 5959 Ext: Beltsville, MD Hyattsville Dog Training Club Information: Email: knagler@aol.com Contact(s): Name: Ken Nagler Phone: (410) 573 - 6556 Ext: Email:knagler@aol.com Finksburg, MD Baltimore County Kennel Club <UL class=fourth_tier>Information: <UL class=fifth_tier>Email: baltcokc@aol.com </UL>Contact(s): <UL class=fifth_tier>Name: Patricia Silberman Phone: (410) 876 - 9092 Ext: Email:baltcokc@aol.com Hagerstown, MD Mason and Dixon Kennel Club Information: Website: http://www.masondixonkennelclub.com Classes Offered: Obedience Flyball Rally Puppy Kindergarten Conformation Handling Agility Contact(s): Name: Renee Nappier, Training Contact Phone: (717) 643 - 0124 Ext: Email:R1performance.dogs@yahoo.com Hampstead, MD Carroll Kennel Club Information: Website: http://www.carrollkennelclub.org Classes Offered: Obedience Conformation Handling Agility Contact(s): Name: Debbie Smart, Agility classes Phone: (410) 840 - 8773 Ext: Name: Patricia Bergland, Obedience and Conformation classes Phone: (410) 239 - 7944 Ext: Email:patberglund@bergy.org Pikesville, MD Dog Owner's Training Club of Maryland Information: Website: http://www.dotc.org Classes Offered: Competition Obedience - Novice Competition Obedience - Open Competition Obedience - Utility Basic Manners/CGC Puppy Kindergarten Conformation Handling Contact(s): Name: Kitty Sarvinas, Conformation classes Phone: (410) 465 - 4055 Ext: Name: Judy Schreiber, Club registrar Phone: (410) 747 - 6776 Ext: Point of Rocks, MD Catoctin Kennel Club Information: Website: http://www.catoctinkennelclub.org Classes Offered: Obedience Puppy Kindergarten Conformation Handling Agility Contact(s): Name: Lamar Solomon, President & contact for Obedience & Puppy classes Phone: (301) 695 - 6613 Ext: Email:president@catoctinkennelclub.org Name: Linda Browder, Training contact for conformation handling Phone: (703) 771 - 1788 Ext: Salisbury, MD Salisbury Maryland Kennel Club Information: Website: http://www.salisburymarylandkennelclub.org Classes Offered: Obedience Basic Manners/CGC Rally Puppy Kindergarten Conformation Handling Agility Contact(s): Name: Barbara Walls, Agility Class Information Phone: (410) 548 - 2110 Ext: 4 Email:emt8843@yahoo.com Name: Conformation Handling Phone: (410) 548 - 2110 Ext: 7 Name: Brenda Spindler Phone: (410) 548 - 2110 Ext: 1 Email:goldens4me@verizon.net Silver Spring, MD Capital Dog Training Club of Washington, D.C. Information: Email: CDTCclass@comcast.net Website: http://www.cdtc.org Classes Offered: Agility Basic Manners/CGC Canine Musical Freestyle Competition Obedience - Novice Competition Obedience - Open Competition Obedience - Pre-Novice Competition Obedience - Utility Conformation Handling Flyball Obedience Puppy Kindergarten Rally Contact(s): Name: Dr. Joyce Dandridge Phone: (202) 726 - 9155 Ext: Email:justus6@attglobal.net Name: Shirley - Agility Class Information, phone calls accepted after 7pm Phone: (301) 270 - 1890 Ext: Name: Flyball Classes & Team Information Email:flyball@cdtc.org Flyball also sounds fun, doesn't it? Are there any yorkies doing flyball? Or tracking?
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08-21-2010, 10:25 AM | #10 |
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| Clean Run had 16 places listed. To search for clubs, go to Clean Run: Search for Agility Clubs and Schools I think it's kind of hard to find schools and clubs on this site. They had them listed under Events, and I always look under Magazine and Resources.
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08-22-2010, 04:58 AM | #11 |
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| Wow, lots of great info on here... So Harley's making some progress. he will now let me take my hand off the dish on the floor at supper time for about 10 seconds, and hold his down until I release him... any longer than that and he wiggles his bum and almost jumps up, so it's better to release while he's quiet. I think he's getting it slowly. I'm still undecided on what type of training to pick... why does training have to be so darn expensive. Oh and to comment on Yorkies being hard to train... I'm on the fence on that one, see when I was training horses, I always picked the toughest ones to train... so I wouldn't know if Harley is average to tough... I know he was super easy to potty train. he's 9 months and at 95% accuracy, and it's only the poos that are off kilter. but as for the rest he is just smart enough to take advantage when I'm not making him work. I think that's what the instructor meant, that these little boogers are SMART, and you can't use physical anything with them, it has to be a mind game. If you can figure them out, I'm sure the training goes really well. I think I've decided for now I'm going to go with the one on one training. I've always been a firm believer in going my own way when it comes to training, I need to know what I believe in, and personally I don't like clickers, and I just found out the group class I wanted to go to, clicker trains, so i'd rather not hold a clicker and use voice markers in stead. I think Harley will benefit more from me knowing 100% what I want him to do and how to do it... I think once I have a base system that works then I can take him into a class and work... oh and I know a few people mentioned the socialization aspect, we have a yorkie group that meets a few times a month, and we do socialization and training together for free. That's part of the reason why the group doesn't appeal to me for that aspect, why pay when I can get it for free.
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08-23-2010, 03:13 PM | #12 |
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| Have you considered Personal Protection Training? My Yorkie is better at it than my Corso that was Bred to be a guardian. |
08-25-2010, 06:08 AM | #13 | |
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Yes, schutzhund training for yorkies!
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