Protecting lines

[YorkieRini]

I posted this on the metnoring on contract thread..instead of getting off topic on that thread I started this one..this is in reply to Nicole asking why I protect my lines...feel free to chime in..but play nice or get out of the sandbox...lololol
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When acquiring my foundation of Yorkies I learned a lot. I learned that a sound Yorkie is hard to find. I had bought several Yorkies early on that were to be used in my breeding program. I bought from places that would sell to me without questions because I too didn't want restrictions. I didn't know wthat the big deal was either. Well, I bought a female that had grade 3 LP in both knees at 12wks. I was sent this puppy even though I send a checklist, an long letter, and a phone call to make sure she knew I wanted sound knees. I was clearly lied to. Well I was offered a replacement puppy that ended up being younger than what she told me. I lost that puppy due to hypoglycemia and my ignorace at the time. Oh but don't forget. I had to pay to ship the first puppy back. and then I had to pay more for the second puppy because it was 'nicer'. Dealign with that breeder alone I spent $3000 and ended up with no puppy. can you say OUCH!!..Ok..I didn't bad mouth the breeder because I knew what I was getting into replacements and all and hypo was not covered in the contract..I just moved on to anohter breeder and cut my losses. The next female I bought from another breeder had grade 1 and 2 LP this puppy was an import. I lost my mind and forgot to ask about LP..tehre was a language barrier which made things hard and the breeder was a shwo breeder..didn't think I had to even ask. Took her to my vet to be evaluated. found out the knees. Told the breeder..she offerer to exchange her but I had to pay for the return shipping which would have csot me an extra $500. on top of the $2500 I paid for her. Besides, I couldnt' send her back...too far of a flight by herself, she came with a friend. So again, I won't mention this breeder either. She kept her end of the bargin and offered to make the situation right. I prefered to spay her, have her teeth cleaned, and sell her as a pet for $1000. After my expereinces with LP I am so ANAL, it is my mission to produce Yorkies w/out LP in hope to soemoen freeing my lines of them. It's sick how frequent this defect is. So not fair..So when I say protect my lines that's what I'm referring too..I want to protect my sound lines or the sound lines I'm working to continue.

Aside from the money I lost from those mistakes. I had to deal with my son crying everytime I had to send one back and when the little one passed on. It's been a hard road to get to were I am and I've only traveled it for about 4 years. I can't imagine what the future holds. But by golly, I won't forget what i've been through thus far and I won't contribute to it either.

Dang! I had a 20oz cappichino..can you guys tell...lolol..

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I posted this on the metnoring on contract thread..instead of getting off topic on that thread I started this one..this is in reply to Nicole asking why I protect my lines...feel free to chime in..but play nice or get out of the sandbox...lololol

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

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When acquiring my foundation of Yorkies I learned a lot. I learned that a sound Yorkie is hard to find. I had bought several Yorkies early on that were to be used in my breeding program. I bought from places that would sell to me without questions because I too didn't want restrictions. I didn't know wthat the big deal was either. Well, I bought a female that had grade 3 LP in both knees at 12wks. I was sent this puppy even though I send a checklist, an long letter, and a phone call to make sure she knew I wanted sound knees. I was clearly lied to. Well I was offered a replacement puppy that ended up being younger than what she told me. I lost that puppy due to hypoglycemia and my ignorace at the time. Oh but don't forget. I had to pay to ship the first puppy back. and then I had to pay more for the second puppy because it was 'nicer'. Dealign with that breeder alone I spent $3000 and ended up with no puppy. can you say OUCH!!..Ok..I didn't bad mouth the breeder because I knew what I was getting into replacements and all and hypo was not covered in the contract..I just moved on to anohter breeder and cut my losses. The next female I bought from another breeder had grade 1 and 2 LP this puppy was an import. I lost my mind and forgot to ask about LP..tehre was a language barrier which made things hard and the breeder was a shwo breeder..didn't think I had to even ask. Took her to my vet to be evaluated. found out the knees. Told the breeder..she offerer to exchange her but I had to pay for the return shipping which would have csot me an extra $500. on top of the $2500 I paid for her. Besides, I couldnt' send her back...too far of a flight by herself, she came with a friend. So again, I won't mention this breeder either. She kept her end of the bargin and offered to make the situation right. I prefered to spay her, have her teeth cleaned, and sell her as a pet for $1000. After my expereinces with LP I am so ANAL, it is my mission to produce Yorkies w/out LP in hope to soemoen freeing my lines of them. It's sick how frequent this defect is. So not fair..So when I say protect my lines that's what I'm referring too..I want to protect my sound lines or the sound lines I'm working to continue.

Aside from the money I lost from those mistakes. I had to deal with my son crying everytime I had to send one back and when the little one passed on. It's been a hard road to get to were I am and I've only traveled it for about 4 years. I can't imagine what the future holds. But by golly, I won't forget what i've been through thus far and I won't contribute to it either.

Dang! I had a 20oz cappichino..can you guys tell...lolol..

Play nice, I love it!! BTW, thanks for your long explanation. Maybe all the Yorkie Talkers should get together and write a book. We'll all take one chapter on something we know very well (I'll write the chapter on dogs eating poop!!!) and we can sell it and make mega bucks. What do you think?

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

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Play nice, I love it!! BTW, thanks for your long explanation. Maybe all the Yorkie Talkers should get together and write a book. We'll all take one chapter on something we know very well (I'll write the chapter on dogs eating poop!!!) and we can sell it and make mega bucks. What do you think?

Okay the poop eating chapter can be yours!

It is so nice to be able to have a thread where we all can help one another and get along like adults!

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by shyorkies

Okay the poop eating chapter can be yours!

It is so nice to be able to have a thread where we all can help one another and get along like adults!

I could NOT agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!

[YorkieRini]

Amen!! That leads me to a question for Admin..watch for it!!

[shyorkies]

I gree that we need to protect our lines, but be able to have an open mind to help someone that is being honest with us!

The sad part is that there are so many people buying up dogs and misleading the breeder.. They are not telling the breeder the truth they are telling the breeder what the breeder needs to hear.. Than when they get there hands on the dog/dogs they place them back up for sale for twice what they paid for them!

I have just recently sit down and spoke to my vet about altering my puppies before they leave.. I just need to know that I feel secure enough to put a young puppy under to alter them.. If I lost one I would die..

[CC's]

I'm not so much worried about protecting lines. Good lines need shared to keep the breed going strong.

I worry only about protecting my pup I let go. I don't want them living in some kennel only getting attention when its time for breeding, or being dumped when they aren't good breeders any longer. I want them to be valued family members that are loved every day for their entire lives.

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by CC's

I'm not so much worried about protecting lines. Good lines need shared to keep the breed going strong.

I worry only about protecting my pup I let go. I don't want them living in some kennel only getting attention when its time for breeding, or being dumped when they aren't good breeders any longer. I want them to be valued family members that are loved every day for their entire lives.

Great post!
That's what we all want. And it's important we make sure.

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by CC's

I'm not so much worried about protecting lines. Good lines need shared to keep the breed going strong.

I worry only about protecting my pup I let go. I don't want them living in some kennel only getting attention when its time for breeding, or being dumped when they aren't good breeders any longer. I want them to be valued family members that are loved every day for their entire lives.

Oh I agree..maybe you did't see my reply previous in the other thread. I have 'shared' but I will only share with a select few. My reply was to a qestions she asked about what does protecting lines mean...to me..

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by CC's

I'm not so much worried about protecting lines. Good lines need shared to keep the breed going strong.

I worry only about protecting my pup I let go. I don't want them living in some kennel only getting attention when its time for breeding, or being dumped when they aren't good breeders any longer. I want them to be valued family members that are loved every day for their entire lives.

CC I so agree...protecting lines is #1 but sharing lines to those who share your same ethics, enthusiasm, and forward direction or goal is exhilarating. A beautiful well bred yorkie is something to be shared, the breed has become so diluted. Breeding has become more of a competition than team work, if we all reverted back to how the breed was originated and shared, what a wonderful life it would be.

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by CC's

I'm not so much worried about protecting lines. Good lines need shared to keep the breed going strong.

I worry only about protecting my pup I let go. I don't want them living in some kennel only getting attention when its time for breeding, or being dumped when they aren't good breeders any longer. I want them to be valued family members that are loved every day for their entire lives.

You are exactly right..

The first and most important concern is that our pups are loved and always given the best of care!

[sylvan]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

CC I so agree...protecting lines is #1 but sharing lines to those who share your same ethics, enthusiasm, and forward direction or goal is exhilarating. A beautiful well bred yorkie is something to be shared, the breed has become so diluted. Breeding has become more of a competition than team work, if we all reverted back to how the breed was originated and shared, what a wonderful life it would be.

can't add a damn thing to this...perfectly stated.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

CC I so agree...protecting lines is #1 but sharing lines to those who share your same ethics, enthusiasm, and forward direction or goal is exhilarating. A beautiful well bred yorkie is something to be shared, the breed has become so diluted. Breeding has become more of a competition than team work, if we all reverted back to how the breed was originated and shared, what a wonderful life it would be.

VERY NICELY Said

I never knew the breeder world was competitive until this site....

I would have thought all breeders would work together and lately I can see there is alot going on behind the scenes that people wouldn't think would happen - I also happen to think if a breeder has everything to be PROUD of and nothing to be ashamed of - then those are the most helpful ones out there.....

and we are so lucky to have so many of the PROUD BREEDERS on this site. There's many of you that I'd be honored to have a puppy from.

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

CC I so agree...protecting lines is #1 but sharing lines to those who share your same ethics, enthusiasm, and forward direction or goal is exhilarating. A beautiful well bred yorkie is something to be shared, the breed has become so diluted. Breeding has become more of a competition than team work, if we all reverted back to how the breed was originated and shared, what a wonderful life it would be.

Excatly! And how does one determine who to trust? MOre often than not breeders are told what they want to hear!

[Snow Yorkies]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

CC I so agree...protecting lines is #1 but sharing lines to those who share your same ethics, enthusiasm, and forward direction or goal is exhilarating. A beautiful well bred yorkie is something to be shared, the breed has become so diluted. Breeding has become more of a competition than team work, if we all reverted back to how the breed was originated and shared, what a wonderful life it would be.

Well, If no one ever trusted us we wouldn't be breeders... And I would like to think that we not the only trust worthy people in this great world!!!

Yes, it is a very hard decision to hand out our hard work with careful breeding and years of trying to build the best in the breed. I personally think that with careful process of selection you can find responsible people to share our experiences with. Yes, from time to time we may make a poor selection in this process, I just don't feel others should be penalized due to one bad apple. Selection process is up to us. Should you give breeding rights to everyone, Heck NO!!! Not, all people are committed to what is involved in what it takes. The lord has blessed me and with that my blessings are no good if I don't pass the blessings on...