Looking for Golden Yorkies

[lisatodd]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

. But maybe 100 years from now, there will be a completely different breed! How do you think the yorkshire terrier came about? Lots of off breeding and in breeding. .

One thing I do agree with most of you on is the price of an off colored puppy. I don't believe they should advertise them as rare then jack up the price. Those type of breeders, IMO, are doing it just for some extra cash.

this is what is wrong....we don't want the Yorkshire Terrier to change. We don't want to loose our Yorkshire terrier in 100 years and make it into another breed as you say.
and it did take some breeding to make the yorkie what it is today but now it has been perfected, is a standard and should stay that way.

thanks for your opionion.

[lisatodd]

[QUOTE=JCarlson2004;Ok, I'm going to duck for cover!! [/QUOTE]

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

hehehe I meant it as a joke. I promise I'm not cowering under my computer desk (and if I was, I'd never in a million years admit to it lol)

[lisatodd]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

hehehe I meant it as a joke. I promise I'm not cowering under my computer desk (and if I was, I'd never in a million years admit to it lol)

i needed a laugh, thanks

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by diva pup

I was not addressing you, I was addressing anyone that wanted to answer. But you surely must have had a reason why when you decided to start breeding, whether you are out of the hole for your breeding dogs or not is really not the question.

And yes, show breeders certainly do sell their "pet quality" yorkies, I have 3 that are not able to be shown for one reason or another but that is the reason they breed, to produce a show dog for themselves not a breeding dog for someone else.

I started breeding yorkies because I luvvvvvvvvvv them and had wanted one since I was a small child. As far as starting to breed them, my husband has bred and trained Field Champion beagles for close to forty years and it has been his hobby for all these years. it is by no means a way to support me. in fact, I don't think it would ever get past a little pocket money. certainly couldn't support our lifestyle. i am a retired R.N. and my husband is retired from proctor and Gamble so you can see we have our own support. for me it is a hobby that I started during a time in my life where I needed something besides a DIL with Cancer (who has since passed) and two precious grandbabies and two adult mentally retarded children that were ruling my life. I had to have an outlet for ME. hope this answers your question, at least from me. I don't know why other people do it and it's none of my business. I have all I can handle taking care of me.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by lisatodd

i don't think diva was directing this at you because you are breeding to better the breed. i think she was saying if you DONT better the breed and if you are not doing it for profit, then why breed. since you are doing it to better the breed then you are just plan AWESOME!!!!!

i know what she was talking about. i just thought it was because i said I hadn't made any money from mine. I mean, no money really.

[yorkiegirl83]

Just my .02 on the matter....I believe all dogs are beautiful, no matter what color, size, ect. But I think that most breeders that breed these "rare" colors, definitely jack up the prices and because the dog is different, people will pay it. To me that is not caring about the welfare of the dog, rather the money that the dog will bring them.

I do know breeders (not of yorkies) that have 2 litters a year and do it not for money what so ever.. but for love of the breed and of their dogs. They don't see them as money makers, but rather cherished family pets and want to spread that love to other families. So.. there are breeders that do not do it for a profit.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I would never consider my dogs to be the means to support me. To me, dogs are not livestock, I don't expect them to work for my living or indeed, theirs.
As to colour of the YOrkie, the breed standard defines what is acceptable colour. As the possibility in any mating, a wrong colour may be produced, certainly that puppy deserves a home as well and a good life if it is viable and not ill. If it is, the breeder can give it a quality of life.
However, to purposely breed for wrong colour in any breed is not contributing anything to that breed. To mislead people into paying ridiculous prices by marketing them as rare etc, in my opinion, is even more wrong.
A reputable breeder would sell such a wrong colour at much reduced prices or give them to a family member, friend etc to give them a good home. They would also look at their pedigree and likely never repeat that mating that produced such off colour and/or consider spay/neutering both parents if they own both. Certainly, the owner of the stud dog would be notified.

You are very fortunate to be able to support yourself without having to breed and sell your yorkies.

Actually I lied about my reason for breeding, I do it to pay my own medical bills. I am disabled and my medical treatments cost over $5000 a month, my insurance only pays a portion of that.

My husband is considerably older than I am, and his health is not good either. He is a diabetic, has had a 5 bypss surgery done on his heart. He is also considered legally blind. If he dies before I do, which he most likely will, I will not be able to make my house payments and would therefore lose my house. also if I do not keep up with my medical bills and I'm forced to go on medicaid then the state will get my house.

I prayed a great deal about this, and then one day we lost our beloved yorkie. Once again I turned to God for answers, because I know that all bad things happen for a reason and I always look for the rainbow. The answer came to me. I was going to be buying a new yorkie and I would start breeding them.

I am not the type of person to weep and wail and curse God for my misfortunes, I always look for the rainbow. I am also not the type of person to question other peoples motives until I have walked a mile in their shoes.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

Breed standard says silk. The whole history of the development of the Yorkie breed is involved to what it is today.
A 5 lbs dog is not undersized. There are many toy breeds that are usually 4 lbs and up and are considered an acceptable size.
Unfortunately, today the undersized are usually less than 4 lbs and very often are small due to health issues, including
underdeveloped kidneys.
Livershunt or other liver problems
hydrocephalic along with open fontenals.
other enzyme issues that can't be measured too easily but compromises the health of the puppy
Any repro Vet familiar with the Yorkie and other toy breeds that have access to the information of percentages of these undersized dogs with very bad health issues can enlighten anyone that asks.
BUt you do have to ask the Vet that is familiar with the issues such as a repro Vet or get in touch with Critical Care Vet clinics that deal with this stuff routinely.

I was referring to the previous breed standard of 15 pounds and wirey hair

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Loretta

I am looking for someone else..the person has 2 AKC traditional yorkies that produced 2 males Goldens or tans or blondes or what ever they color is called.. anyway.. he asked me to try and locate a female.. which I am doing.. Now the standard for yorkies has been changed by the National club and approved by AKC.. The only yorkies that can be shown are the Blue and Tan.... all the rest are bad for the breed and are disqualified if they go in the ring.. So anyone that has a Blk and tan or Blk and gold or Blue and Gold.. they are flawed and should not be bred.This is on the National Yorkie clubs web site.So if your worried about being bad for the breed.. You better not have any of these colors..

It's interesting that Black/tan and Black/gold have actually won their championship titles. What's up with that?

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

but I've seen standard, easy to come by Yorkies sell for so much as $10,000 which to me in INSANE!! But I guess someone will pay that price.

Yes that is what I call unconscionable.

[Loretta]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

It's interesting that Black/tan and Black/gold have actually won their championship titles. What's up with that?

The club members voted this in for their new standard.. also if the blue and tan has too big of a white spot on it's front, it's disqualified also.
Its a shame now that the champions that aren't blue and tan would be disqualified, I assume , if they showed in Breed,,Loretta