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BamaFan121s · 09-14-2006, 11:00 AM

Um...what the heck are you talking about?

LookinNswfl · 09-14-2006, 11:06 AM

Dear Brittany,

Often smaller dogs, especially the so-called "Teacups" are prone to low levels of blood sugar which can lead to convulsions, coma and death especially after long periods of play or exercise. To help avoid this problem they should be fed frequently (some suggest every four hours) and be given a supplement like Nutri-Cal. I only give it to my Biewer Yorkie. He is 4.5 pounds and still a pup. He eats a very healthy diet so I'll probably discontinue using it when he reaches his adult weight at about seven months. Mostly, it's a precaution. I hope that answers your question. I'm sure there are others here that are more knowledgeable than I about this subject.

All the best,
DJ

vainchick5 · 09-14-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brittany2cute

AND I DONT KNOW WEHY YOU FEED IT, UNLESS YOU BREED dogs with low blood sugar or use it as a supplement, but my dogs do fine on their natural dog food, good food gives them all they need......feed natural food.....
brittany

, of coarse or unless you have all 1-2 lb. pups and dogs.........

I recommend you do your research before attacking other members for giving good advice

The creation of different dog breeds represents centuries of selective breeding to create a true line of dogs all with similar desired characteristics. Somewhere in all this breeding and selection, toy breeds were deemed desirable and were hence developed. Typical examples of these very small dogs are:

Chihuahua

Yorkshire Terrier

Maltese

Toy Poodle

Pomeranian
And, of course, there are many others. Consider that if these dogs are so tiny as adults how tiny they must be as newborn puppies. These itty bitty babies have trouble maintaining body temperature, cut their baby teeth in late and thus have trouble with kibbled foods, and they have difficulty maintaining blood sugar. Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) creates listlessness, incoordination (the brain cannot burn fat or protein and relies entirely on sugar), and even seizures.

RLC12345678 · 09-14-2006, 11:25 AM

Just to add some info to the EXCELLENT info Nobella just gave....although supplementing is an EXCELLENT precautionary measure in most cases, one must be careful not to oversupplement with Nutrical and other products like this. Tiny dogs should not be supplemented if they are eating well, eating enough, staying warm, are not being stressed, and are not getting too much exercise. They should also not need supplementing once they have reached their adult weight. Many say that they don't need supplementing once they have reached 12 weeks. Over supplementing with NutriCal and other products like this can cause diabetes.

vainchick5 · 09-14-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RLC12345678

Just to add some info to the EXCELLENT info Nobella just gave....although supplementing is an EXCELLENT precautionary measure in most cases, one must be careful not to oversupplement with Nutrical and other products like this. Tiny dogs should not be supplemented if they are eating well, eating enough, staying warm, are not being stressed, and are not getting too much exercise. They should also not need supplementing once they have reached their adult weight. Many say that they don't need supplementing once they have reached 12 weeks. Over supplementing with NutriCal and other products like this can cause diabetes.

Rebecca you are a wealth of knowledge my friend

stole the words right out of my fingers

RLC12345678 · 09-14-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5

Rebecca you are a wealth of knowledge my friend

stole the words right out of my fingers

LookinNswfl · 09-14-2006, 12:27 PM

Yikes, this is a tough crowd. Two current members warned me that these forums could become quite heated before I joined. After reading many posts, I would have to agree that things frequently get out of hand. Old and new members should be treated with equal respect. Making an issue out of someone's spelling or grammar is unacceptable. Posts that threaten, "no one will ever sell you a puppy here" smack of black listing. A lot of folks seem to be rather close-minded with their own agendas. Once you've closed your mind, you've quit learning! I am open to different ideas and not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Some of us are very knowledgeable members of this community, who have much to contribute, but aren't very diplomatic in the way we present ourselves and respond to others. This makes me very sad. I think we can all do better. I'll do my best. DISCLAIMER: This is a general observation and not a critique of any specific individuals.

Sincerely,
DJ

LookinNswfl · 09-14-2006, 12:30 PM

Nobella,

Thanks for your thoughts on Nutri-Cal. I was going on the advice of my breeder but I think I need to do a bit more research on when to stop the supplement. We all want the best for our babies!

DJ

chachi · 09-14-2006, 12:35 PM

This is a good forum. You just need to stick arund and post in other areas other than the for sale and wanted section. Sure some threads get heated but this is a big forum with alot of people with different opinions.

BamaFan121s · 09-14-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brittany2cute

AND I DONT KNOW WEHY YOU FEED IT, UNLESS YOU BREED dogs with low blood sugar or use it as a supplement, but my dogs do fine on their natural dog food, good food gives them all they need......feed natural food.....
brittany

, of coarse or unless you have all 1-2 lb. pups and dogs.........

Brittany~

I'm really not sure what anyone here did to anger you so. Also, I'm not really sure where you get off telling me how to properly use OR spell "Nutra Cal" as I have not mentioned it in any of my replies on this thread. And FYI, I spell it NUTRI CAL because that is how it is spelled on the brand I use. See for yourself.
http://www.millpledge.com/preparations/nutrical.htm

LookinNswfl · 09-14-2006, 12:47 PM

I'm with Misty on this one. Hey, they tore down the Berlin Wall, didn't they?

DJ

vainchick5 · 09-14-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LookinNswfl

Nobella,

Thanks for your thoughts on Nutri-Cal. I was going on the advice of my breeder but I think I need to do a bit more research on when to stop the supplement. We all want the best for our babies!

DJ

No problem. I found that when my Coco was a baby, I used it only when I was going to work. As she was only 1 lbs at 12 weeks, and I was always worried about her blood sugar level, which is another reason I free feed so she always had food in the event that she needed it. Once I got home I would no longer give her any because I was there to monitor her. Also once she hit 2.5lbs I stopped giving it to her (at the suggestion of the vet and breeder), except if she wasn't feeling well and not eating well, or when we'd go camping/lake, because she loses her appetite when her environment changes. She's 4 lbs, almost 5, but is still so tiny so I still carry it around with me JUST in case. I found it helped me tremendously, and I would do it again for my next puppy. I don't think it's JUST for tinies, I think small breeds in general, especially under 2-3 lbs need that kind of supplement to keep their levels balanced. But I guess everyone does things differently and that's ok too.

LookinNswfl · 09-14-2006, 12:56 PM

Nobella,

I REALLY appreciate the heads-up on the supplement situation. If my baby developed diabetes, I'd never forgive myself.

DJ

vainchick5 · 09-14-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LookinNswfl

Nobella,

I REALLY appreciate the heads-up on the supplement situation. If my baby developed diabetes, I'd never forgive myself.

DJ

No prob. I think when you are around, as long as your making sure that the baby is getting their food down, and isn't wearing himself out, he should be ok. I used to give Coco nutrical about the size of a small button, since I didn't want to oversupplement her. But when I was home I made sure she got treats like carrots, apples, cottage cheese, ect (which the vet ok'd in small amounts, since they are better than dog treats). I think you'll do fine. Just feel your baby out. If he has certain needs you will discover them, afterall you have experience with 4 others..lol

BamaFan121s · 09-14-2006, 01:09 PM

Sounds like you did the right thing Nobella. I used it *some* with Trixie's first litter when they got to the point of good mobility, starting to wean them IF I wasn't comfortable with the amount they'd eaten for the day. When they went home, they each left with a tube and the new owners had instructions on how to use it and why.
When Trixie got close to delivery--2 days before, she ate very little, so I made sure she had some in her then as whelping took a lot out of her, understandably.
We also keep a close eye on them (pups and adults) anytime they get vaccination in case they are at all lethargic.
Likewise, when Kasey lost all his teeth at once recently....loads of fun there...we used it again.

09-14-2006, 12:35 PM	#54
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	This is a good forum. You just need to stick arund and post in other areas other than the for sale and wanted section. Sure some threads get heated but this is a big forum with alot of people with different opinions. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

09-14-2006, 11:00 AM	#46
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Um...what the heck are you talking about?

09-14-2006, 11:06 AM	#47
LookinNswfl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: naples, florida Posts: 41	Dear Brittany, Often smaller dogs, especially the so-called "Teacups" are prone to low levels of blood sugar which can lead to convulsions, coma and death especially after long periods of play or exercise. To help avoid this problem they should be fed frequently (some suggest every four hours) and be given a supplement like Nutri-Cal. I only give it to my Biewer Yorkie. He is 4.5 pounds and still a pup. He eats a very healthy diet so I'll probably discontinue using it when he reaches his adult weight at about seven months. Mostly, it's a precaution. I hope that answers your question. I'm sure there are others here that are more knowledgeable than I about this subject. All the best, DJ

09-14-2006, 11:25 AM	#49
RLC12345678 I heart Hootie & Hobbs Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 7,149	Just to add some info to the EXCELLENT info Nobella just gave....although supplementing is an EXCELLENT precautionary measure in most cases, one must be careful not to oversupplement with Nutrical and other products like this. Tiny dogs should not be supplemented if they are eating well, eating enough, staying warm, are not being stressed, and are not getting too much exercise. They should also not need supplementing once they have reached their adult weight. Many say that they don't need supplementing once they have reached 12 weeks. Over supplementing with NutriCal and other products like this can cause diabetes.

09-14-2006, 12:27 PM	#52
LookinNswfl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: naples, florida Posts: 41	Yikes, this is a tough crowd. Two current members warned me that these forums could become quite heated before I joined. After reading many posts, I would have to agree that things frequently get out of hand. Old and new members should be treated with equal respect. Making an issue out of someone's spelling or grammar is unacceptable. Posts that threaten, "no one will ever sell you a puppy here" smack of black listing. A lot of folks seem to be rather close-minded with their own agendas. Once you've closed your mind, you've quit learning! I am open to different ideas and not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Some of us are very knowledgeable members of this community, who have much to contribute, but aren't very diplomatic in the way we present ourselves and respond to others. This makes me very sad. I think we can all do better. I'll do my best. DISCLAIMER: This is a general observation and not a critique of any specific individuals. Sincerely, DJ

09-14-2006, 12:30 PM	#53
LookinNswfl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: naples, florida Posts: 41	Nobella, Thanks for your thoughts on Nutri-Cal. I was going on the advice of my breeder but I think I need to do a bit more research on when to stop the supplement. We all want the best for our babies! DJ

09-14-2006, 12:47 PM	#56
LookinNswfl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: naples, florida Posts: 41	I'm with Misty on this one. Hey, they tore down the Berlin Wall, didn't they? DJ

09-14-2006, 12:56 PM	#58
LookinNswfl Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: naples, florida Posts: 41	Nobella, I REALLY appreciate the heads-up on the supplement situation. If my baby developed diabetes, I'd never forgive myself. DJ

09-14-2006, 01:09 PM	#60
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Sounds like you did the right thing Nobella. I used it some with Trixie's first litter when they got to the point of good mobility, starting to wean them IF I wasn't comfortable with the amount they'd eaten for the day. When they went home, they each left with a tube and the new owners had instructions on how to use it and why. When Trixie got close to delivery--2 days before, she ate very little, so I made sure she had some in her then as whelping took a lot out of her, understandably. We also keep a close eye on them (pups and adults) anytime they get vaccination in case they are at all lethargic. Likewise, when Kasey lost all his teeth at once recently....loads of fun there...we used it again.