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Cares4Dogs · 09-12-2010, 01:05 PM

what year was the yorkie standard written?

gemy · 09-12-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elle

Your opinion means nothing to me and hundreds of thousands of people that care about the history and future of the breed.

It's just your opinion to me because I don't want to buy a puppy.

Here's more information on this parti dog.

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (Awards)

What Elle? "It's just your opinion to me becaues I don't want to buy a puppy?"

What does that mean?

Your posts are often times cryptic, and sometimes beyond that.

There is no need to personally attack any one member here.

We all love the Yorkies we have been blessed with owning.

Have difference of opinion .. well and good but you at best seem to challenge others with a nasty response. Not necesary at all.

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs

what year was the yorkie standard written?

Which one? The one in England or the one in the US?

Cares4Dogs · 09-12-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Which one? The one in England or the one in the US?

the one in the US

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:25 PM

I think the YTCA was formed in 1951

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:27 PM

Then in 1958 they were accepted by AKC and by 1966 they had written a revision of the English standard.

Cares4Dogs · 09-12-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

I think the YTCA was formed in 1951

Way before DNA made its enterance to society. So YTCA bases their opinions on speculations rather than facts??

What studies have been performed on the parti's to prove they are sickly designer breeds?

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:39 PM

Remember the standard applies to an entire dog.
Color is important in a standard, but not to the exclusion of all else or the breed will suffer for it.

Cares4Dogs · 09-12-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Remember the standard applies to an entire dog.
Color is important in a standard, but not to the exclusion of all else or the breed will suffer for it.

Okay that makes sense.

bjh · 09-12-2010, 01:42 PM

Since it is no secret that several parti breeders want to have a new variety added for the Yorkshire Terrier, have all of you got together and thought about how the standard would be written to apply to the parti yorkie? If you are wanting to show parti carriers and breed back to parti yorkies, then what is your goal when it comes to bettering the breed? Would you want tri-colored parti's accepted, blue, gold and white or would your want black, gold and white or both variations? What about the black on the heads? You have to be more specific than just saying you want to breed a pretty parti. What is pretty or acceptable to one parti breeder might not be acceptable to another parti breeder. You might run into problems there just like the Biewer breeders have.

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:46 PM

A few months back our club was doing some statistics on Parti color in the yorkie. I contacted AKC and ask for a report in the number of parti color yorkies that had been registered with AKC since the year 2000 to this year.
AKC told me it would cost $200.00 for that report. I agreed to it. Then guess what, YTCA put a stop to it. So then AKC tells me they cant send it unless the YTCA approves. Needless to say we didn't get it even after i ask YTCA to allow us to have it. How can we research the parti when the YTCA is the parent club but they will not let us have access to anything concerning the parti?
Why is the YTCA so scared of the Parti? What is it going to hurt for us to get an accurate count?

Breezeaway · 09-12-2010, 01:51 PM

How can we trace down the lines that the parti has shown up in? What color were the parents? Without records we are sort of limited and YTCA likes like that.

Cares4Dogs · 09-12-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

A few months back our club was doing some statistics on Parti color in the yorkie. I contacted AKC and ask for a report in the number of parti color yorkies that had been registered with AKC since the year 2000 to this year.
AKC told me it would cost $200.00 for that report. I agreed to it. Then guess what, YTCA put a stop to it. So then AKC tells me they cant send it unless the YTCA approves. Needless to say we didn't get it even after i ask YTCA to allow us to have it. How can we research the parti when the YTCA is the parent club but they will not let us have access to anything concerning the parti?
Why is the YTCA so scared of the Parti? What is it going to hurt for us to get an accurate count?

Your kidding me!!!!! What harm could it do???

yorkiegirl2 · 09-12-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Which one? The one in England or the one in the US?

LOL.. OK, so make it 2.
I forgot about the one in the U.S.

bjh · 09-12-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Breezeaway

How can we trace down the lines that the parti has shown up in? What color were the parents? Without records we are sort of limited and YTCA likes like that.

I think you are on your own. It is pretty obvious that the YTCA has no desire in doing anything to get the parti yorkies in the show ring. I think the harder the parti breeders push then the harder the YTCA will push back. If you have a parti club then you will just have to try to gather your own statistics from club members.

09-12-2010, 01:42 PM	#625
bjh Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 7,959	Since it is no secret that several parti breeders want to have a new variety added for the Yorkshire Terrier, have all of you got together and thought about how the standard would be written to apply to the parti yorkie? If you are wanting to show parti carriers and breed back to parti yorkies, then what is your goal when it comes to bettering the breed? Would you want tri-colored parti's accepted, blue, gold and white or would your want black, gold and white or both variations? What about the black on the heads? You have to be more specific than just saying you want to breed a pretty parti. What is pretty or acceptable to one parti breeder might not be acceptable to another parti breeder. You might run into problems there just like the Biewer breeders have. __________________ "Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

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Cares4Dogs Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 975	what year was the yorkie standard written?

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Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	I think the YTCA was formed in 1951

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Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	Then in 1958 they were accepted by AKC and by 1966 they had written a revision of the English standard.

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Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	Remember the standard applies to an entire dog. Color is important in a standard, but not to the exclusion of all else or the breed will suffer for it.

09-12-2010, 01:46 PM	#626
Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	A few months back our club was doing some statistics on Parti color in the yorkie. I contacted AKC and ask for a report in the number of parti color yorkies that had been registered with AKC since the year 2000 to this year. AKC told me it would cost $200.00 for that report. I agreed to it. Then guess what, YTCA put a stop to it. So then AKC tells me they cant send it unless the YTCA approves. Needless to say we didn't get it even after i ask YTCA to allow us to have it. How can we research the parti when the YTCA is the parent club but they will not let us have access to anything concerning the parti? Why is the YTCA so scared of the Parti? What is it going to hurt for us to get an accurate count?

09-12-2010, 01:51 PM	#627
Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	How can we trace down the lines that the parti has shown up in? What color were the parents? Without records we are sort of limited and YTCA likes like that.