Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3268045)

I have read this "debate" almost daily, and am still confused. Why did the breed club feel the need to put in a DQ for parti colored dogs? Why if it is a DQ, does the AKC allow parti's to be registered as Yorkies?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268025)

Because this deer is spotted does it make him not a deer?
The piebald gene does show up in numerous animals and guess what some humans have the piebald gene. I guess the Shih Tzu really gets around doesn't it.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268025)

Because this deer is spotted does it make him not a deer?
The piebald gene does show up in numerous animals and guess what some humans have the piebald gene. I guess the Shih Tzu really gets around doesn't it.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3268125)

I think this thread is way beyond help LOL...I keep reading about adding a variation to the show ring for Parti's what is not everyone getting? AKC hasn't added a variation to any breed for showing in years and it's not going to happen. What part of that is not getting through????? AKC can't add a variation UNLESS YTCA presents it to AKC and even then as seen in the quote I got off the AKC website that breed club was "turned down". The YTCA at this point is NOT going to allow Parti's in the show ring period. Those can talk till they are blue in the face and I can talk till I'm blue in the face it's just NOT gonna happen "anytime" in the near future.
I will state ONCE AGAIN, I've never called any Parti breeder names or called anyone non reputable that breeds Parti's but everyone knows I uphold the standard and my convictions.
As, Jim stated, I refuse to even take those Parti breeders serious when they say we'll take our Parti carriers in the ring and I don't care what one says, I'll do what I want, yada yada yada....show breeders dye dogs to win, do whatever it takes to win, again, yada yada yada....I try to do the right thing but yet again we are expected to change our beliefs just to satisfy something we don't believe in...At this point it's all a moot point.
Our goal should be is elimitating all the serious health issues that are in this breed and stop fighting about freaking color and whether it's allowed in the show ring or who the heck is dying their dogs! It should be all about breeding a healthier Yorkshire Terrier and not about color!


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Thank God the voice of reason.

I tried to post earlier but I somehow erased my post

Here it is again.

The Yorkshire Terrier faces serious challenges today. Health issues are of deep concern. Where is the registry for LS dogs for example. How close are we to identifying the gene and or genes responsible for LS?
Bybers, and Puppy Mills are churning out so very bad representatives of the breed, and never a genetic test done. God help us.

The breed clubs has an overwhelming real and deep concern as to what is happening with our beautiful tan and blue standard Yorkie.

Until we (collectively) get these health concerns under control, the paramount duty of the club as I see it, is to strive forward with research, to try and curb somehow these bybers, and to safeguard the health, the temperament of our beautiful breed.

Until progress is made on these fronts, I'm sorry to say ethical Parti breeders, there just will not be any receptance to your plea for full parti recognition.

I do encourage you to promote genetic health testing, in fact to mandate that as part of an ethical breeders membership in your club.



Donna

Originally Posted by topknot (Post 3268134)

But it does make this deer easier to spot in the wild, thus making it easier to catch and kill - as seem by this hunter's trophy kill. This deer no longer had its camoflauge color to help protect it in the wild. There are many other animals that are not born with it own specific color and it usually does not last long in the wild.

There are also albinos in this world and they most always have problems with their eye sight.

Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268146)

Nobody hunts yorkies and they dont live in the wild. Parti yorkies arent albino and have eye pigmentation unlike albinos eyes that are pink.

Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268146)

Nobody hunts yorkies and they dont live in the wild. Parti yorkies arent albino and have eye pigmentation unlike albinos eyes that are pink.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268157)

I was just pointing out that the piebald gene or Leucism shows up in many animals, it doesn't mean that they are mixed with anything. Even birds, squirrels,snakes etc.
Look at this cute pied squirrel.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3268153)

No, but when Tina made her comment it was in referrence to another's quote who posted a pic of a spotted deer and humans having a piebald gene so Tina had every right to make her point in her post...BUT alas yorkies can have an eye pigmentation that is not there that would contain what one would think could be caused by a white gene hence maybe a Parti having pink eyes...Hmmm sounds possible to me....could happen when adding a white gene to a darker gene...it's all called genetics :)

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3268125)

I think this thread is way beyond help LOL...I keep reading about adding a variation to the show ring for Parti's what is not everyone getting? AKC hasn't added a variation to any breed for showing in years and it's not going to happen. What part of that is not getting through????? AKC can't add a variation UNLESS YTCA presents it to AKC and even then as seen in the quote I got off the AKC website that breed club was "turned down". The YTCA at this point is NOT going to allow Parti's in the show ring period. Those can talk till they are blue in the face and I can talk till I'm blue in the face it's just NOT gonna happen "anytime" in the near future.
I will state ONCE AGAIN, I've never called any Parti breeder names or called anyone non reputable that breeds Parti's but everyone knows I uphold the standard and my convictions.
As, Jim stated, I refuse to even take those Parti breeders serious when they say we'll take our Parti carriers in the ring and I don't care what one says, I'll do what I want, yada yada yada....show breeders dye dogs to win, do whatever it takes to win, again, yada yada yada....I try to do the right thing but yet again we are expected to change our beliefs just to satisfy something we don't believe in...At this point it's all a moot point.
Our goal should be is elimitating all the serious health issues that are in this breed and stop fighting about freaking color and whether it's allowed in the show ring or who the heck is dying their dogs! It should be all about breeding a healthier Yorkshire Terrier and not about color!

Donna

Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3268135)

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Thank God the voice of reason.

I tried to post earlier but I somehow erased my post

Here it is again.

The Yorkshire Terrier faces serious challenges today. Health issues are of deep concern. Where is the registry for LS dogs for example. How close are we to identifying the gene and or genes responsible for LS?
Bybers, and Puppy Mills are churning out so very bad representatives of the breed, and never a genetic test done. God help us.

The breed clubs has an overwhelming real and deep concern as to what is happening with our beautiful tan and blue standard Yorkie.

Until we (collectively) get these health concerns under control, the paramount duty of the club as I see it, is to strive forward with research, to try and curb somehow these bybers, and to safeguard the health, the temperament of our beautiful breed.

Until progress is made on these fronts, I'm sorry to say ethical Parti breeders, there just will not be any receptance to your plea for full parti recognition.

I do encourage you to promote genetic health testing, in fact to mandate that as part of an ethical breeders membership in your club.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268157)

I was just pointing out that the piebald gene or Leucism shows up in many animals, it doesn't mean that they are mixed with anything. Even birds, squirrels,snakes etc.
Look at this cute pied squirrel.

Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 3268168)

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 3268172)

I've never seen a black and white squirrel but I have seen white squirrels.
In Olney Illinois laws and police force protect its albino squirrel population as a civic treasure.