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LDandPasquale · 03-17-2009, 06:22 AM

If the rescue had him seen by a vet AND neutered...why shouldnt they be compensated?? $500 sounds reasonable to me...considering i paid 435$ for Pasquale's 4 teeth removed and his neuter. Plus the rescue IS feeding the dog. People need to realize things in life arent free.

jencar98 · 03-17-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LDandPasquale

If the rescue had him seen by a vet AND neutered...why shouldnt they be compensated?? $500 sounds reasonable to me...considering i paid 435$ for Pasquale's 4 teeth removed and his neuter. Plus the rescue IS feeding the dog. People need to realize things in life arent free.

I'm not saying the $500 price isn't fair. But wanted you to know most rescues do get a greatly reduced rate from vets for work done. So, it's not likely it cost this rescue anywhere near $500 for a simple neuter and vet check. The vet I've worked with often does things free of charge for rescues.

ladyjane · 03-17-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jencar98

I'm not saying the $500 price isn't fair. But wanted you to know most rescues do get a greatly reduced rate from vets for work done. So, it's not likely it cost this rescue anywhere near $500 for a simple neuter and vet check. The vet I've worked with often does things free of charge for rescues.

Adoption fees are not set based on the actual cost of vetting. I will also say that not all rescues get reduced fees....the important thing is to get quality vetting. IF there is a discount, great, but that is not always the case.
Also.....one needs to recognize that a pup might end up in rescue with a fracture, dislocation, PDA, liver shunt, heartworms, and many other things that their owners failed to provide vet car for. Some of them are older and have adoption fees much lower than $500 but their actual vetting cost can be thousands.
So...fees are set based on age by most rescues. The fees help to recoup as I said above, but do not even come close to covering actual costs.

And, I do realize that you are not questioning the fee, but I want people to understand that the fees are not set up that way!

phfgkl · 03-17-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Obie

It will be very interesting to see how long this guy sits in rescue. I am a Biewer breeder for over 5 years and do not warehouse my puppies. After I spay and neuter they go into adoptive homes almost for nothing after I fully check out vet references and homes. This guy would have gone into a loving home very fast, well under the price they are asking. What is more important is the welfare of the Biewer and how soon he can get into his forever home. The only rescueing he needed was from his owner! Now he will sit for a long time because people don't pay $500 for a 10 month old Biewer male. I have worked with the public for a long time and know what they will and will not pay. And, as far as puppyfind, do you see how many of those Biewers are older. That is because they can't sell them for the exorbitant price they are charging.

Please don't treat this thread as a debate. I am already angry as to what has transpired here and what is transpiring out there in the Biewer community.

Humm, do you have a website?

YorkichonBella · 03-17-2009, 08:47 AM

I'm saddened that my thread turned into a debate. I never would have thought......I was only trying to get this Adorable Biewer Male out there for those who might be interested & that I wish I could take him. I think he's just Gorgeous!! Let's keep it on track here. He's looking for his "forever Home".

phfgkl · 03-17-2009, 08:49 AM

I'm pretty sure they've been bombarded with calls on this little guy, as he's adorable.

ladyjane · 03-17-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkichonBella

I'm saddened that my thread turned into a debate. I never would have thought......I was only trying to get this Adorable Biewer Male out there for those who might be interested & that I wish I could take him. I think he's just Gorgeous!! Let's keep it on track here. He's looking for his "forever Home".

I think they will have no problem finding him a home! He is on their website and on petfinder and most rescues have no problem adopting pups from those venues!

scrapindee · 03-17-2009, 04:44 PM

I think a point that seems to be lost here is the "breeder" didn't follow through on their contract with the buyer. Every contract I have seen for a purebred dog--regardless of breed, AKC or not--says the breeder will have first right of refusal to rehome a dog. And this breeder left the owner hanging. We don't know why the 10 month old puppy was placed with a rescue--could be he was difficult to housebreak, could be he was an only dog and was destructive or was a barker.

I feel bad for the puppy, one more transition to experience.

I don't think this turned into a debate. I think this also opened some eyes--rescues require funding, besides vet bills, food, etc. Nothing is free.

And btw, for the "someone" who thought I was tooting my own horn for following through on good ethics, and what a responsible breeder does and should do in these circumstances, I think the YT'rs here want to know that there are breeders who do the right thing by their dogs.....

YorkichonBella · 03-17-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee

I think a point that seems to be lost here is the "breeder" didn't follow through on their contract with the buyer. Every contract I have seen for a purebred dog--regardless of breed, AKC or not--says the breeder will have first right of refusal to rehome a dog. And this breeder left the owner hanging. We don't know why the 10 month old puppy was placed with a rescue--could be he was difficult to housebreak, could be he was an only dog and was destructive or was a barker.

I feel bad for the puppy, one more transition to experience.

I don't think this turned into a debate. I think this also opened some eyes--rescues require funding, besides vet bills, food, etc. Nothing is free.

And btw, for the "someone" who thought I was tooting my own horn for following through on good ethics, and what a responsible breeder does and should do in these circumstances, I think the YT'rs here want to know that there are breeders who do the right thing by their dogs.....

I'm not following?? Not sure anyone knows for sure whether it was the breeder or owner of this little guy being the reason he is up for adoption. So it was disheartening to see debatable conversations about why, who, price, rescue, etc. Good ethics or not being the reason, we agree he will surely make someone with LOVE a wonderful Biewer baby.

scrapindee · 03-17-2009, 05:10 PM

Sorry, I'm still furious about the breeder...and the fact that this puppy landed up in a rescue. We shouldn't be seeing this all ready.

It is obvious to me that there are many YT members that would have taken this boy for a nominal fee. There was other avenues for this puppy other than a rescue.....JMHO.

Jacqulyn · 03-17-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by my2boyz

I disagree...there are a lot of people out there who are willing to pay that amount. If I were looking for a pet I would not hesitate to pay $500.00 for a beautiful, 10 month old, neutered Biewer boy. Just think, no crying all night, hopefully he will already be housetrained and had all of his shots, no puppy coat to deal with or puppy teeth to pull and there would be no stress about him being put under for a neuter because it's already done. Most of the work is done...what more could a new owner want? I know I'm not the only one out there who feels this way so I have no doubt he will be in a wonderful home soon.

I couldn't agree more!

YorkichonBella · 03-17-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee

Sorry, I'm still furious about the breeder...and the fact that this puppy landed up in a rescue. We shouldn't be seeing this all ready.

It is obvious to me that there are many YT members that would have taken this boy for a nominal fee. There was other avenues for this puppy other than a rescue.....JMHO.

Totally understand that this is Disturbing.

erickajm · 03-17-2009, 07:20 PM

I may be wrong but I am thinking he was a surrender. I would love to have him and actually started filling out the application but they have a couple of requirements that we don't make

erickajm · 03-17-2009, 07:22 PM

Per his web page:

Skippy is a Biewer (pronounced Beeva). It is a brand new breed based on a Yorkie. It is parti colored and Skippy is gorgeous. Just 10 months old he is a darling. Skippy has been wonderfully loved and treated like a prince. He was surrendered because his mom had other dogs that she had to care for and she wanted Skippy to have lots of attention - as he deserves. He is a healthy, happy, slightly timid boy. A real live Biewer! Do your homework and find out what that is. Then put in your application. Skippy is in Reading, PA with his foster mom, Kathy.

What a special dog he is!

ladyjane · 03-17-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by erickajm

I may be wrong but I am thinking he was a surrender. I would love to have him and actually started filling out the application but they have a couple of requirements that we don't make

Where are the requirements for adoption? I cannot find them.

03-17-2009, 06:22 AM	#16
LDandPasquale YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Massachusetts/Florida Posts: 2,614	If the rescue had him seen by a vet AND neutered...why shouldnt they be compensated?? $500 sounds reasonable to me...considering i paid 435$ for Pasquale's 4 teeth removed and his neuter. Plus the rescue IS feeding the dog. People need to realize things in life arent free. __________________ LD that's me and Pasquale "If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is definitely not for you!"

03-17-2009, 08:47 AM	#20
YorkichonBella My little Shadow Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 4,132 Blog Entries: 2	I'm saddened that my thread turned into a debate. I never would have thought......I was only trying to get this Adorable Biewer Male out there for those who might be interested & that I wish I could take him. I think he's just Gorgeous!! Let's keep it on track here. He's looking for his "forever Home". __________________ Bella Ganma-ma to ColeRIPNoahRIP

03-17-2009, 04:44 PM	#23
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	I think a point that seems to be lost here is the "breeder" didn't follow through on their contract with the buyer. Every contract I have seen for a purebred dog--regardless of breed, AKC or not--says the breeder will have first right of refusal to rehome a dog. And this breeder left the owner hanging. We don't know why the 10 month old puppy was placed with a rescue--could be he was difficult to housebreak, could be he was an only dog and was destructive or was a barker. I feel bad for the puppy, one more transition to experience. I don't think this turned into a debate. I think this also opened some eyes--rescues require funding, besides vet bills, food, etc. Nothing is free. And btw, for the "someone" who thought I was tooting my own horn for following through on good ethics, and what a responsible breeder does and should do in these circumstances, I think the YT'rs here want to know that there are breeders who do the right thing by their dogs..... __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

03-17-2009, 05:10 PM	#25
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	Sorry, I'm still furious about the breeder...and the fact that this puppy landed up in a rescue. We shouldn't be seeing this all ready. It is obvious to me that there are many YT members that would have taken this boy for a nominal fee. There was other avenues for this puppy other than a rescue.....JMHO. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

03-17-2009, 07:20 PM	#28
erickajm Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 3,200	I may be wrong but I am thinking he was a surrender. I would love to have him and actually started filling out the application but they have a couple of requirements that we don't make __________________ Zoe Peppee Brady EARL!

03-17-2009, 08:49 AM	#21
phfgkl BANNED! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,376	I'm pretty sure they've been bombarded with calls on this little guy, as he's adorable.

03-17-2009, 07:22 PM	#29
erickajm Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 3,200	Per his web page: Skippy is a Biewer (pronounced Beeva). It is a brand new breed based on a Yorkie. It is parti colored and Skippy is gorgeous. Just 10 months old he is a darling. Skippy has been wonderfully loved and treated like a prince. He was surrendered because his mom had other dogs that she had to care for and she wanted Skippy to have lots of attention - as he deserves. He is a healthy, happy, slightly timid boy. A real live Biewer! Do your homework and find out what that is. Then put in your application. Skippy is in Reading, PA with his foster mom, Kathy. What a special dog he is! __________________ Zoe Peppee Brady EARL!