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07-03-2007, 05:15 PM | #1 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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| Need Help Feeding My Yorkie That Has Calcium Oxalate Crystals-allergic To Corn! I Need Help- I Do Not Know What To Feed My Little Girl As She Is Allergic To Corn. The Vet Put Her On A Pres Diet -hills W/d Formula. She Was Suffering An Allergic Reaction In Her Digestive Tract From Being On Purina Pres Diet-n/f For Kidney Function. I Do Not Know What To Feed Her. In The Mean Time I Am Feeding Canidae All Stages. She Cannot Be On This Food Much Longer As She Is Producing High Amounts Of Crystals. Please Help Me. I Need To Start Her On A Different Food And The Vet Is No Help And She Is Not Listening To Me. I Told Her My Dog Cannot Have Corn And She Asked Me: How Do I Know She Was Allergic? I Saw What She Was Going Trough On The Purina Nf Food. It Was As If It Was Poisoning Her. I Will Not Give Her The Hills Pres Diet Also Made From Corn. It Is Listed As The First Ingredient. There Has Got To Be A Different Food On The Market Made Specificially For Dogs With Crystals And Kidney Problems That Is Not Made From "corn" And I Have Researched And Read Labels-compared Labels And I Am Running Out Of Time. I Need To Feed My Dog And I Don't Know What To Do. Please If Anyone Has Any Advice- Please Please Help Me With This. |
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07-03-2007, 05:24 PM | #2 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | are you positive its the corn? There are other prescription foods made by eukanbua and Royal canin. also i just did a search and came up with this. http://www.aplus-flint-river-ranch.c...tfooddiets.php its worth looking into more
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07-03-2007, 05:40 PM | #3 | |
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she does well on food w/o corn- i am trying to find one that does not contain corn. i am very scared to give her the hills w/d. the purina nf was about killing her. so i am very hesitant with the corn in there. do you know if any of the other brands you listed has a food w/o corn? i am gonig to look in that. Appreciate it more than you know :-) | |
07-03-2007, 06:00 PM | #4 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | i didn't do a full check on the Flint River Ranch food but i know its a high quality food, so it may not have it. I'm pretty sure tho that all the prescription ones including purina, hills, eukanuba, and royal canin have corn in them
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07-03-2007, 07:17 PM | #5 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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| I was able to find this info on line: There is no recommended diet to dissolve calcium oxalate stones. For prevention a diet low in protein and oxalates and high in magnesium, phosphorus, and calcium is recommended. Increased dietary magnesium and phosphorus decreases the amount of calcium in the urine, and increased dietary calcium reduces absorption of oxalates from the intestines.[6] Potassium citrate has been recommended as a preventative for calcium oxalate stone formation because it forms a soluble complex with oxalates and promotes the formation of alkaline urine. (taken from wikipedia) so after reading that info,I am assuming a diet that is: low in protein and oxalates high in magnesium high in phosphorus high in calcium * low in fat (to help control and lose weight) SAMIE IS 7 LBS AND IS IS OVERWEIGHT BY ABOUT 1 1/2-2 LBS I am just trying to understand why she was given this today??? B/C PER THE INFO WE FOUND ON WIKIPEDIA... IS SAYS "HIGH" MAGNESIUM AND "HIGH" PHOSPHORUS -and these ingredients are lower in the the food she prescribed. but i do think she was allergic to "corn" so that is why i am skeptical. Not UNLESS...the "potassium citrate granules" add something to this food that it is not providing by itself? it is "low" in fat to help her lose weight...I am still just skeptical based on the last food and what happened to her on it. She was in bad shape. I am currently trying to compare the 2 foods to see the difference (if any) purina vet pres diet NF and the one given today: hills prescrition diet W/D * w/d® with Chicken Canine PLUS ADD 1 TEAS OF POTASSIUM CITRATE GRANULES IT IS USED FOR: For Weight Control and the Nutritional Management of Fiber Responsive Diseases, Excess weight, diabetes and digestive troubles can cause problems for your dog. Feeding the right food can help your pet live a healthier lifestyle. Prescription Diet® w/d® with Chicken Canine dog food, with its fiber rich formula, may be useful as a nutritional aid for dogs with fiber responsive diseases such as diabetes mellitus, colitis, diarrhea, constipation, and to help manage overweight dogs, including those with struvite urolithiasis. The nutritional formulation of Prescription Diet® w/d® may also be useful for pets with a variety of conditions Product Characteristics for Hills pres diet-W/D: Carnitine:High Magnesium :Reduced Calories:Low Phosphorus:Reduced Fat:Low Sodium:Low Fiber:Increased Added Antioxidants Help reduce free radical damage to counteract oxidative stress Target Urine pH Acid (6.2 - 6.4)* *Urine pH of individual dogs may vary due to complicating factors such as: time of feeding before urine collection, type of urine collection, individual animal variation, and test methodology. *Urine pH of individual dogs may vary due to complicating factors such as: time of feeding before urine collection, type of urine collection, individual animal variation, and test methodology. * I am currently researching these Potassium Citrate Granules as well. |
07-03-2007, 07:40 PM | #6 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Powder Springs, GA
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| try this link. It reviews and gives all dog foods a 1 to 6 star rating and has all of the ingredients listed. Good luck! http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_f...ndex.php/cat/1 |
07-03-2007, 07:56 PM | #7 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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| Hi, Yes i did look there and all of the foods are so high in protein. I gave up. i am hoping someone will respond that is having the same problems as we are. I have been researching for about 100 hours these past few weeks. And while this is all going on I still need to feed her "something" Once I took away the corn based food 11 days ago.. and switched to canidae there was no more miserable dog, no more scooting about 25 times a day, no more crying she was so uncomfortable, no more panting from discomfort. She'd wake me up in the middle of the night, irritating her bottom from scooting and making sores. I am relying heavily on one of the millions of yorkie owners out here experiencing the same. |
07-03-2007, 08:06 PM | #8 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs
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| Are you looking for wet or dry? How low do you want the protein to be? I can pull out my old WDJ's and find something that will work for you.
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07-03-2007, 08:35 PM | #9 | |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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There is no recommended diet to dissolve calcium oxalate stones. For prevention a diet low in protein and oxalates and high in magnesium, phosphorus, and calcium is recommended. Increased dietary magnesium and phosphorus decreases the amount of calcium in the urine, and increased dietary calcium reduces absorption of oxalates from the intestines.[6] Potassium citrate has been recommended as a preventative for calcium oxalate stone formation because it forms a soluble complex with oxalates and promotes the formation of alkaline urine. (taken from wikipedia) | |
07-03-2007, 08:38 PM | #10 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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| looking for a dry food and a canned to feed as treats and to give medication. |
07-03-2007, 08:47 PM | #11 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas
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| it seems like the vet is giving me the opposite food. low in magnesium and low in phosphorus and low in calcium. protein was 15% and fat was 6.0% fiber was HIGH 20% ! |
07-04-2007, 05:24 AM | #12 |
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| The lowest protein on the list is 16% PetGuard Organic. It's a vegatarian food. The Royal Canin veterinary diet listed is the Rabbit & Potato version and it looks like no corn, that is 19% Wellness Simple Food Solutions Venison is 21% Pinnacle Trout & Sweet Potato is 22% Newman's Own Organic is 21% Karma Organic is 20% For the canned/wet foods: Natural Balance Eatables Irish Stew 5% Spot's Stew 3.5% The rest are all 8-12% I don't know if you can compare these to each other because the water content really impacts the rest of the %'s.
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07-04-2007, 05:46 AM | #13 |
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| Maybe you should bring her to a Pet Nutritionist. Also, did you look into the Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar. I think you should get it and add it to their daily water, it does help neutralize PH |
07-04-2007, 06:15 AM | #14 |
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| What about Solid Gold Wee Bits -no corn-no wheat-no soybeans-it s potein is 28%.
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07-04-2007, 08:01 AM | #15 |
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