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Old 07-15-2007, 05:37 AM   #61
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Default samie's ph this morning...

Samie's ph reading was only 5.5! I have started adding the acv. but- I am not sure if I am adding the proper amounts of acv to their water? I give them 2 cups distilled water in their bowl and yesterday I started with 1 teas. I tasted the water and it tasted very strong. like I could totally taste the acv in their. so i dumped it out and did 1/2 teas. I don't want to overdo it. does anyone know how much i need to add to 2 c water? i have read the site on acv and how they recommend 1 teas per day of the acv-but samie does not drink a whole bowl of water a day.... i would have to say she drinks maybe 4 times a day out of her water bowl. like only 1/2 inch of water out of the bowl daily. so then she isn't getting enough acv then-i don't think... is there a pill form she could take does anyone know? I have cranberry pills that i tried a while ago but I don't know if they ever did anything to her ph?

i thought for sure she would be 6 like the vet said she last was. but today it was 5.5. that is so very low... need that to be higher..
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:58 AM   #62
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I use 1/2 teaspoon of Apple Cidar Vinegar to 2 cups of filtered water or bottled Spring Water.

Do not use Distilled water. I have used it. But I heard on YorkieTalk a few weeks ago that it is not good for them or us to drink this all the time.

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I know that some diets call for using distilled water, but my dh (who's a filtration expert) told me that if I drink distilled water all the time it will "tear up my stomach" b/c it's got no minerals in it and is very corrosive. I'm confused
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I wonder if the distilled water is making her ph lower. she was at a 6 three weeks ago. she needs this to go up. I heard that distilled water was better to give. we have VERY hard tap water here. we don't drink it either I buy spring water. after researching the distilled water I found that a lot of people use distilled. With my Samie's ph and her crystals i need to be sure what we are doing is the best thing for her. i do give her icecubes also but those are made with water from the freezer. I do not know what is the best. I just bought 6 gallons of distilled. I change the water often -around 3 times a day so I go through more of it. but they like fresh water. after they eat the food crumbs get in the water :-) i change it after that with a fresh bowl one more time for the night. they also like ice cubes added to their water. they do not mind drinking at room temp. i wonder if they would drink more water if it was chilled. they love icecubes after coming in from outside. we live in texas and today was another hot one. 93 degrees.
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It's very hot here also we are on the gulf coast - very high humidity!
Rained all day here today. 95 degrees - 105 heat index.
I change water about 3 times a day also.

I would try the bottled water instead of distilled.
I'm no expert, But I don't think its not gonna hurt your baby to try for a week or so. Distilled might be harming her system.
Does your fridge have a filter on it for the water & ice?
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It's very hot here also we are on the gulf coast - very high humidity!
Rained all day here today. 95 degrees - 105 heat index.
I change water about 3 times a day also.

I would try the bottled water instead of distilled.
I'm no expert, But I don't think its not gonna hurt your baby to try for a week or so. Distilled might be harming her system.
Does your fridge have a filter on it for the water & ice?
Bottled "filtered" water? or "spring" water? I am a little uneasy about the distilled.. but our tap water is VERY hard. It is so hard that i've noticed it corroding around our faucet in the bathroom. And our house is new- just 5 yrs old.

Tell me what I should be looking for in "bottled" water and i will get it tomorrow. :-)

i will still add the acv but to the bottled water instead.
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our freezer has an ice maker but it's located inside of the freezer.
no ice machine or water dispenser on the outside of the fridge. So there isn't a filter of any kind.

I am trying to find something to make some small thin icecubes out of for them b/c I have to melt them under water first to shrink them down so the pieces are smaller and easier for my dogs to crunch on them. other wise they are too big.

:-) they love them and i figure they get more water that way too. they don't drink a whole lot of water. i would like to see them drink more than they do. i have read that dogs with kidney issues need more moisture in their diet. They eat the canidae- and for treats and to give med's I give them innova senior canned. THEY LOVE IT! they wake me up every morning at 6:30 am every single day-

almost as if they are telling me "come on mama!! get outta bed! it's time for our treat!" they race into the kitchen and go crazy! it's funny! Samie takes an allergy pill 2 x's a day. it's just cholephenamine.. (spelling?) but it's an antihistamine and it seems to help her. i use the canned food to give her that pill. otherwise i have to fight with her to get it down. and i don't like to do that. plus i feel bad that we had to cut out all milkbones and snacks so they get the canned food for treats. :-) and i love to see them get all excited for it too so...
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Our tap Water is Hard also.
Spring Water - Kentwood is the brand available here - located in Kentwood, LA.
The Filtered water I have is Tap water filtered through the Refridgerator Filter made by Whirpool.
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I use 1/2 teaspoon of Apple Cidar Vinegar to 2 cups of filtered water or bottled Spring Water.

Do not use Distilled water. I have used it. But I heard on YorkieTalk a few weeks ago that it is not good for them or us to drink this all the time.

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I know that some diets call for using distilled water, but my dh (who's a filtration expert) told me that if I drink distilled water all the time it will "tear up my stomach" b/c it's got no minerals in it and is very corrosive. I'm confused
just curious to know what brand of spring water you use? we have ozarka and also store brand. i think spring water is spring water no matter what the brand... do you switch out and use spring and filtered water? or do you use only one?
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Bottled and filtered water
Are they safer than tap water?

Even though the water that comes to your tap meets or exceeds all state and federal standards, many people choose to buy bottled water or home filtration systems. For most people, the decision to purchase drinking water should be based on personal taste preferences, because your tap water may actually be safer than bottled or filtered water.

People with depressed immune systems or pregnant women should discuss with their physician whether to drink water from the tap.

Some people may be concerned about trihalomethanes (THM), a byproduct of the disinfection process. Many types of bottled water may have less THMs than your tap water. Other contaminants like giardia and cryptosporidium have only been found in local treated water at extremely low levels.

Bottled water
Bottled water falls into two categories as explained below. Some bottled water is subject to the same federal regulations as tap water, though bottled water manufacturers are not required to monitor as often as municipal water providers are. In addition, in California, bottled waters may not contain more than 10 parts per billion trihalomethanes, a requirement which is ten times more stringent than that for tap water. These products are labeled by the manufacturer as:

artesian water
artesian well water
ground water
mineral water
purified water
deionized water
demineralized water
sparkling bottled water
drinking water
distilled water
reverse osmosis water
spring water
sterile water
sterilized water or
well water
Other types of bottled water are not subject to the same regulations as tap water. These are regulated as food products, and their regulations are largely related to sanitary food handling and processing practices. These products are labeled by the manufacturer as:

water
carbonated water
disinfected water
filtered water
seltzer water
soda water
sparkling water or
tonic water
Bottled water manufacturers will provide a detailed report on the quality of their product to consumers who call to request it. For additional questions about bottled water regulations, contact Mr. Wayland Ho, Food and Drug Investigator, California Department of Health Services, Food and Drug Branch, 100 Paseo de San Antonio, Room 304, San Jose, CA 95113, (408) 277-1915.

Home treatment options
Home treatment systems can be effective in removing various compounds from water. However, there is no single home treatment system that removes all possible contaminants. In addition, all home treatment systems depend on regular maintenance in order to perform effectively. Carbon filters and reverse osmosis systems may have the ability to reduce trihalomethanes, but these may vary from brand to brand. Standard use of home distillers and water softeners is not effective in removing THMs. Use only a state-approved treatment device that is certified to remove THMs. Refer to the California Department of Health Services for information.

Water vending machines
Vending machines cannot be relied upon to remove THMs. These machines use municipal water supplies as their source, and typically run the water through a series of treatment processes designed to improve the water’s taste and quality. The treatment is usually a combination of the systems designed above. The machines are regulated by the city or county in which they are located. Like home treatment systems, the effectiveness of these machines in removing THMs is dependent on the treatment process used and routine maintenance. It is advisable to check with the machine’s manufacturer to find out the treatment processes used, the maintenance of the machines, the results of their water quality testing, and the effectiveness of the treatment processes in the machine at removing THMs.

Boiling water
Boiling your tap water will reduce trihalomethane content. You should boil it for one minute only.
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Our tap Water is Hard also.
Spring Water - Kentwood is the brand available here - located in Kentwood, LA.
The Filtered water I have is Tap water filtered through the Refridgerator Filter made by Whirpool.
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do you have "5" yorkies???
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is "drinking water" found in the grocery store in gallons the same as "filtered water"?
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just curious to know what brand of spring wat er you use? we have ozarka and also store brand. i think spring water is spring water no matter what the brand... do you switch out and use spring and filtered water? or do you use only one?
I have seen Ozarka here also - never tried it. Kentwood Spring Water is the main water here. Kentwood has a distribution Store here - we can have it delivered to our door if we choose to.
I use mainly Filtered water at home - when we are travelling we use Kentwood spring water.
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do you have "5" yorkies???
I have 4 Yorkies at home & one yorkie puppy I gave to my Mom & Dad.
2 yr old, 1 3/4 yr, 1 yr old, & 4 mth old, mom & dads is 5 mths old.
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is "drinking water" found in the grocery store in gallons the same as "filtered water"?
Yes, but i don't buy it for Us or the Dogs.
I use Walmart Distilled water in my SaltWater Aquarium.
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Default soooo may types of water....

Water Types

Bottled water companies offer many types of water, from spring water to distilled water. The differences between these types of water are determined by the source of the water and anything that occurs to the water during processing. The FDA defines bottled water according to the following Standards of Identity. These apply to all bottled water in the U.S.



Water Type
Characteristics

Artesian Water
· From a well in a confined aquifer

· Water level in well must stand at some height above the top of the aquifer

· May also be known as "artesian well water"

Distilled Water
· Water that has been turned into steam to leave impurities behind

· Steam is condensed into pure water

· Due to its purity, distilled water is used in the manufacturing of pharmaceutical and liquid dry prescriptions

Fluoridated Water
· Contains fluoride that is added within the limitations set by Federal Regulations

· Some spring and artesian sources have naturally occurring fluoride in trace amounts

Mineral Water
· Must contain no less than 250 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (TDS) with the solids being the minerals in the water

· Must come from a geologically and physically protected underground water source

· Is distinguished from other types of water by the regular mineral and trace elements present

· No minerals may be added to this water

Purified Water
· Produced by distillation, deionization, reverse osmosis or other suitable processes that meet the legal definition of "purified water"

· May also be known as "demineralized water"

Sparkling Water
· Contains, after treatment and possible replacement of carbon dioxide, the same amount of carbon dioxide that it had at emergence from the source

· Soda water, seltzer water and tonic water are not considered bottled waters. They are regulated separately and considered softdrinks

Spring Water
· Must come from underground formation and flow naturally to the surface of the earth

· Emanates from beneath the earth, from under strata that formed in prehistoric times

· Must be collected at the spring or through a bore hole tapping the underground formation finding the spring

Sterile Water
· Must meet the requirements under "Sterility Tests" in the United States PharMacPPCopoeia

· May also be known as "sterilized water."

Well Water
· Comes from a hole that is bored, drilled or otherwise constructed in the ground, tapping the water of an aquifer
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