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03-25-2016, 04:47 AM | #1 |
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| Bordatella Non-core; I know. I have no choice. It's required for her training. I assumed, and they did, too- until my trainer looked closer. Is there ANYTHING I can do to stop this from having to happen? It's required of all trainers in the city I live in. Her trainer is excellent on top of all of this. I called the vet and asked the pertinent questions, but, they seem to think it's not a huge deal, since it's just one shot. Any way, I'll stop babbling. I'm hoping someone has some ideas. |
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03-25-2016, 05:06 AM | #2 |
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| If it's any consolation, it really is not a big deal. My Yorkie needed a bordatella vaccination for her groomer, and she had no side effects. I've heard that the nasal vaccine has a greater chance of side effects, so go with the shot. |
03-25-2016, 05:07 AM | #3 |
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| updating thread and stating I see that, just like for my daughter, there are waivers for puppies as well. Any one experienced this? Had a shot waiver? With my daughter, it was fairly simple, and the two articles I pulled up really didn't go into any details, just about how you can go into boarding kennels vaccine free. Thanks, guys!! |
03-25-2016, 05:08 AM | #4 |
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| I'll keep this in mind if I can't get around this. Thank you, though, that's fantastic to hear. |
03-25-2016, 05:13 AM | #5 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Ugh, it stinks, doesn't it..?! It'd be one thing if this was rooted in real science, but come on...the bordetella vax is like vaccinating against the common cold, I mean hello?! You can't...the virus mutates *all the time*, just like in kennel cough. There are 100's of strains of kennel cough, and the vax only vaccinates against about 7 or 8...I mean, what's the point, right? So arbitrary if you really think about it. So while I commiserate, I don't know of a work around unless your vet would write you up a letter advising against it, and your trainer would then accept it...
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03-25-2016, 05:15 AM | #6 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Yes, you can get waivers from your vet. They're usually given if/when there has been a vax reaction and the recommendation is to not give certain or all vaccines in the future.
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03-25-2016, 06:29 AM | #7 | |
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The children waivers are so easy to get I was hoping that it would be for Chewie. Okay, well, I can't stop the training. I am going to wait as long as possible to get it for her, unless by some miracle the waiver works. I'm positive you're right but, even that .4% chance it works, I'll give it a shot, lol. | |
03-25-2016, 08:43 AM | #8 | |
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The nasal vaccine uses LIVE bordatella ....the injection form does not. If you must give it, have them give the injection...any dog that I have ever given the injection form, has had NO ill effects from it....it is the instillation of those live virus spores into their noses that create issues....I did change vets to avoid my dogs receiving that nasal dose, as that was all he used...he was a fantastic vet, but he made 4 of my dogs sick with that, HE didnt pay for the meds needed to treat the upper respiratory issues he created, and one of those babies got REALLY sick and was sick for almost 6 months!!! I have always been a huge proponent of, "If it is your fault, or you screwed up, it is your responsibility to fix it or make it right....dont give my dogs something I really dont want them to have, then when it affects them exactly like I was afraid it would, charge ME (BIG BUCKS!!!) to fix something that was your fault!!!" If you must give it, have them use (the dead virus that is given) the injection rather than the nasal drop, which is the live virus. | |
03-25-2016, 12:04 PM | #9 |
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| Thank you, everyone. I made the appointment and the vet has no issues with the injection. Again, seriously, It was a fantastic suggestion- both the vet clinic AND the shot. They didn't even mind re-checking her records to be sure. the ear mite is very similar to the name they use for their bordatella vaccines, so we thought she had it. So thank you! I thank you and Chewie definitely will. |
03-25-2016, 12:07 PM | #10 | |
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04-07-2016, 06:30 AM | #11 |
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| Comment Deuce just had a bad reaction to his Bordatella intranasal vaccine this time. He has had the intranasal vaccine before (5 Years) with no ill effects. We are using a new vet since we moved and the product they used caused Deuce to come down with Kennel Cough. They used IntraTrac3 so it is a combo of things - Bordetella, adenovirus, and parainfluenza. Unfortunately I did not ask BEFORE they gave it to him and my poor boy was miserable. Yep I had to go back and get antibiotics for him - they charged me of course. He's fine now. It took about 4 days to get over. So for the next time? The shot is safer? Or should I go with nothing at all. I do not board him, I do my own grooming, and there is no way I'd let him run around with big dogs at a dog park. I do take him for walks though. I's also wondering if the problem with the vaccine was its administration. Does a vaccine have to be mixed or diluted before being given or is it just purchased by the vet dose ready?? Anybody know?
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04-07-2016, 06:50 AM | #12 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | I do not vac for Bordatella. . . I would either get a waver or go somewhere else. But that is just me . . . And that is what I did
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04-07-2016, 07:54 AM | #13 |
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| Is a confusing decision for sure. We get it because Cali goes to all the dog show and agility classes. The place we do agility classes with had a big kennel cough outbreak- had to stop classes for a while- but Cali did not come down with it. I did hear that some folks had some significant vet bills from it. Don't know if their pups were, or were not, vaccinated. I think the decision would have to do with exposure opportunities.
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04-07-2016, 10:13 AM | #14 | |
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