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03-10-2012, 05:45 PM | #1 |
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| Brown rice or white rice? We have narrowed Megan's allergies down to potatoes so I've been using rice in their meals instead of potatoes but I have a few questions for those who know. 1. Is it better to use white rice or brown rice in a home cooked dog food recipe? 2. Are sweet potatoes and white potatoes the same in canine nutrition/recipes? 3. I've seen olive oil and vegetable oil used in home cooked recipes but which is better? Megan is sensitive to fish so no fish oil. 4. How much oil is safe to put over each meal? I don't want to cause any problems. 5. Is there a good dog food that doesn't contain potatoes or fish? The girls went in for a teeth cleaning and ended up with diarhea afterwards so they were on a diet of chicken and rice for a couple of days and Megan stopped itching. So, I started using rice in their food instead of potatoes and she is doing wonderful but I need to know if brown or white is better. The recipe I use is from the epilepsy angels website (no, she isn't epileptic, it's a complete recipe for dogs so I use it,) it has chicken, white potatoes, sweet potatoes, green beans, zucchini and carrots. Is there something else in there that could cause her to itch? |
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03-10-2012, 05:51 PM | #2 |
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| I use brown rice and light evoo when I cook for them. I substitute all purpose flour with brown rice flour in all their treats. |
03-10-2012, 06:16 PM | #3 |
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| Both are fine. You could try both and compare how she does..if any different. Some recipes have room to switch up proteins and carbs, so replacing white with sweet may be okay. The recipe creator should have the answer to that.While they may be interchangeable, they affect dogs differently. Linoleic is the pnly essential fatty acid in dogs. Oils with high levels of linoleic are sometimes chosen first. The best choice is the one that completes the diet the best. The percent fat you are giving should be part of the guaranteed analysis of the food. The oly things I tend to consider for my are are Royal Canin, Science Diet, or Purina rx diets. They have plenty of potato and fish free foods.
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03-10-2012, 06:23 PM | #4 |
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03-10-2012, 06:34 PM | #5 |
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| I realize you are doing the cooking, but thought this would help. Fromm's had this posted on their site: The fifth ingredient includes brown rice. Like barley, brown rice is another quality grain that (once cooked) is fairly easy to digest. The seventh ingredient lists white rice… a less nutritious form of brown rice in which the grain’s healthier outer layer has been removed. This list didn't mention potatoes, but it did mention sweet potatoes. Hope it helps with your decision. The fourth ingredient mentions sweet potato. Sweet potatoes are a good source of complex carbohydrates in a dog food. They are naturally rich in fiber, beta carotene and other healthy nutrients. Fromm Four Star Nutritionals Dry Dog Food | Review and Rating
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03-10-2012, 06:46 PM | #6 |
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| I home cook for Rosie. I use a recipe from Dr. Rebecca Remillard. So I am answering these based on what I use for her. Rosie don't have allergies but has IBS and this has been great for her. So on to your questions. 1. Is it better to use white rice or brown rice in a home cooked dog food recipe? Our recipe calls for brown rice. 2. Are sweet potatoes and white potatoes the same in canine nutrition/recipes? Our recipe uses sweet potatoes. 3. I've seen olive oil and vegetable oil used in home cooked recipes but which is better? Megan is sensitive to fish so no fish oil. We use corn oil. 4. How much oil is safe to put over each meal? I don't want to cause any problems. For an entire day's meal we use 3/4 tsp of corn oil 5. Is there a good dog food that doesn't contain potatoes or fish? I am hearing that some of the foods are coming out using kangaroo. Apparently, they have been good for dogs with allergies. Not real sure on this. Maybe someone else has some information. Good luck with finding the right diet. Does your site where you got the recipe from have a nutritionist who you could call?
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03-10-2012, 07:37 PM | #7 |
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| Thank you all for the information. It seems just when I think she's doing well and I'm on the right track everything goes haywire again. We've tried several commercial foods and they all work for a bag or two and then we're right back where we started. So far she is doing great with the chicken, rice and veggies, actually better than she has in a long time, so I don't want to rock the boat...I just want to be sure she's getting everything she needs. I would love to find a good dry food I can use when we travel and for free feeding when needed but I'm afraid to make any changes. The only other thing they get right now is the Science Diet TD treats. |
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03-10-2012, 08:08 PM | #10 |
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| I home cook for Tatiana. I'll answer the questions I have experience with: 1. Is it better to use white rice or brown rice in a home cooked dog food? I've used both. Right now, I'm using white rice. 3. I've seen olive oil and vegetable oil used in home recipes but which is better? I use coconut oil and fish oil capsules. Tatiana has no fish allergies. 4. How much oil is safe to put over each meal? I use 1 tsp of coconut oil and 1 fish oil capsule for about 1-1/2 days of meals (about five meals. Tatiana gets fed three times a day). Also, I add a multivitamin powder and calcium powder to her food. For the multivitamin powder, I use "Solid Gold Seameal Mineral and Vitamin Supplement." Last edited by MidnightUnicorn; 03-10-2012 at 08:10 PM. Reason: typos |
03-11-2012, 03:00 AM | #11 | |
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I now always home cook for him - chicken, rice and veggies and he's absolutely thriving on it - 16lbs of fit, active, slim, wonderful Yorkie-ness!! I do keep kibble down for him all the time (in our case, Vets Kitchen, but I think that's probably 'over here'). He also has a Multivitamin/Multimineral Supplement every day which I personally think is very important. I tried Harry on brown rice - but he definately prefers white, so I try to mix them together (he does tend to pick the brown out though...!!!). I hope it continues to go well for you - I realise it's more work, but it's so worth it to know what's going into their little bodies...!! Sally + Harry x | |
03-11-2012, 04:16 AM | #12 |
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| A simple solution to help stop Harry from picking out the Brown rice... put it in a food processor and give it a few "pulses"... I do that whenever I give Polo something he would normally push aside...
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03-11-2012, 04:47 AM | #13 |
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| Thank you! I have tried that a couple of times - but I think it's the actual taste he doesn't like that much! Last time, he actually sniffed at it for quite a long time, before walking away...!!! Sally + Harry x |
03-11-2012, 06:34 AM | #14 |
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| Sugar does that too. She doesn't care for brown or white rice
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03-11-2012, 06:40 AM | #15 |
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| [QUOTE=sugarmamma;3847561]Sugar does that too. She doesn't care for brown or white rice Maybe it's a 'Littlies born on the 21st October' trait...?!! |
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