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Old 01-05-2012, 06:59 AM   #31
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Alright people, lets just cut the crap now. We all know where this is going to go and it won't be pretty. This thread isn't about the polite police, newbies complaining or older members feeling like they are getting slapped on the wrists.

I understand the frustration coming from both sides. I've been here for years and have seen all the same stories and more then some of you older members.

Yes this thread may remind you of countless other threads of the same theme from very new members. Yes a lot of those other threads ended badly, the owner never came back to update us, puppies died, mothers died, etc, etc, etc... But the fact is THIS person, other new members, and people who aren't members are reading this for the FIRST time. They do not know the frustrations and anger the older members have towards situations like this because of past threads so when you pounce on them things quickly go downhill for everyone involved, including the dogs.

Perhaps its better to say what you have to say, whether it be helpful or critical, in a respectful way. Everyone deserves respect. This is a forum designed to talk about yorkies, share our love for the breed, and help others. So why don't we do that? If you have critical thoughts that need to be said, maybe you can post links to a few similar older threads that may shed some light on your feelings so the OP and others may understand more where you are coming from.

Or the easiest thing to do if you don't like what is being said is to not say anything at all. Simple as that.
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Alright people, lets just cut the crap now. We all know where this is going to go and it won't be pretty. This thread isn't about the polite police, newbies complaining or older members feeling like they are getting slapped on the wrists.

I understand the frustration coming from both sides. I've been here for years and have seen all the same stories and more then some of you older members.

Yes this thread may remind you of countless other threads of the same theme from very new members. Yes a lot of those other threads ended badly, the owner never came back to update us, puppies died, mothers died, etc, etc, etc... But the fact is THIS person, other new members, and people who aren't members are reading this for the FIRST time. They do not know the frustrations and anger the older members have towards situations like this because of past threads so when you pounce on them things quickly go downhill for everyone involved, including the dogs.

Perhaps its better to say what you have to say, whether it be helpful or critical, in a respectful way. Everyone deserves respect. This is a forum designed to talk about yorkies, share our love for the breed, and help others. So why don't we do that? If you have critical thoughts that need to be said, maybe you can post links to a few similar older threads that may shed some light on your feelings so the OP and others may understand more where you are coming from.

Or the easiest thing to do if you don't like what is being said is to not say anything at all. Simple as that.
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Good Lord! Why are YT members so quick to jump on other members. Sheeesh! Can everyone just take a freaking step back and not jump to conclussions soooooo freaking fast!? It makes me very VERY cautious to post any kind of thread here for fear lf it being misinterrupted and the lynching mob out to get one with pitch forks! Good grief!!

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Well if you read her posts, she didnt have the money for the month of December. Waiting a week or two for a pregnancy test for a dog is no biggie. She did not say she didnt have the money at all to deal with the situation.

My rant is due to the fact that people jump on other people so quickly here. Throwing out words like irresponsible and such, without know all the facts and not asking the original poster for
further explaination. I for one think the lynch mob mentality very upsetting.
You know what is she wants to breed her dog, and she has the money and time to do it, so be
it. What better place to get her questions answered then on a YORKIE forum. I mean a reputable breeder had to start somewhere. Did we all have rescue Yorkie, no. For me I do want
to get a rescue Yorkie, I sought someone out and found my Sunny. I looked for a rescue but there were none at the time in my area. i wanted a puppy, not an older dog.
So yes, my rant and this rant is necessary. If someone decides to flame someone, maybe someone needs to decide to call that person out and say, "is that flaming really necessary?" i mean really who are all these holier then thou type people??

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I gave straight information I don't feel I was mean or rude so I will not apologize and I would not change anything I posted. People who come on here who haven't thought about breeding or done any research should not have mated there dog and need to know that not have learned information about breeding could cause there dog to die or the puppies as well as the fact that the mother could die even if she was being breed by the most knowledgeable breeder. I am so tired of people coming on here and thinking they are the moderators or something well guess what we have moderators who most of the time do a dang good job so back of telling people what they can write and what they cant that's not your job!
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I hope yet another member hasn't been run off here. To the OP I hope you are able to get Bella to the vet soon as that's the only way to know for sure. If she is pregnant you need to know now because she will require specail care. Please try to sift through this thread because amongst the harshness there is some sound advice.
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Alright people, lets just cut the crap now. We all know where this is going to go and it won't be pretty. This thread isn't about the polite police, newbies complaining or older members feeling like they are getting slapped on the wrists.

I understand the frustration coming from both sides. I've been here for years and have seen all the same stories and more then some of you older members.

Yes this thread may remind you of countless other threads of the same theme from very new members. Yes a lot of those other threads ended badly, the owner never came back to update us, puppies died, mothers died, etc, etc, etc... But the fact is THIS person, other new members, and people who aren't members are reading this for the FIRST time. They do not know the frustrations and anger the older members have towards situations like this because of past threads so when you pounce on them things quickly go downhill for everyone involved, including the dogs.

Perhaps its better to say what you have to say, whether it be helpful or critical, in a respectful way. Everyone deserves respect. This is a forum designed to talk about yorkies, share our love for the breed, and help others. So why don't we do that? If you have critical thoughts that need to be said, maybe you can post links to a few similar older threads that may shed some light on your feelings so the OP and others may understand more where you are coming from.

Or the easiest thing to do if you don't like what is being said is to not say anything at all. Simple as that.
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I didn't read any post that told anyone what they could or could not post, only suggestions that posts be at least respectful.

Add me to the list agreeing with Bobbi and Kellie!
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O...M...G!!! I KNEW what was going to happen as soon as I read this post,,,WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!! This person came her with a question and asking for HELP!! WHY in the HE** is it that every time a new member comes on here asking for help they get blasted!!! THIS HAS TO STOP!! I have been a member here for a long time and seen posts like this and the OP never comes back....Well I DON'T BLAME THEM!!! If I wasn't so thick skinned I wouldn't have come back either!! As you can see by the number of my posts for the years I've been here, I haven't got alot...that's because I don't usually get involved with these threads...I understand that everybody has their own opinions and you are entitled to them...however....don't go bashing somebody...you don't know them OR the entire story!! Some people on here are SO quick to jump down someone throat.....NONE of us here (except for the breeders) are expert on this breed....that's why we are all here....I have seen WAY to many of these (bashing)posts on here lately...like another poster had said....if you don't like what the person is saying and you aren't going to post to HELP them then walk away from the post!! This poor woman came here for our help!! I hope she doesn't leave because of this...I agree some people breed for all the wrong reasons but, if it happens it happens...whether she was negligent or not is not the concern....the concern is HELPING HER!! GOOD GRIEF PEOPLE!!! We are a GREAT forum...Lets STOP all of this!!
To the OP....please don't leave because of this....There are many members on here that aren't quick to judge and have GREAT advise and willing to help...good luck with this
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OP, go to the breeders section and post there, is many of us experience breeders that only post there to prevent this kind of threads.
Hope this helps..
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Just looking for an update on the possibility of Bella being pregnant. It has been 12 days since your original post without an update. Do you believe that Bella is still pregnant? How old is she and was the male of appropriate size as to not be concerned for a csection? Have you made budgetary adjustments to get her the necessary vetting for her possible pregnancy or even emergency care if need be? Do you know when this matting too place and when you might be expecting puppies? Are you preparing for a whelp in your near future? Is there an Xray scheduled in the near future to determine the size and number of possibly puppies?
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[QUOTE=Lovetodream88;3778546]If you don't like how things are going here then LEAVE and follow your own advise about not saying something! Go and read my posts there is nothing but information in them and questions asked to try and help her better. You are not a moderator so don't try and act like one! I am done with this thread because none of my posts where nasty until I was being accused of being nasty! This is why good people here leave because they are pushed to the edge when just trying to inform people![/Q

why is it when ever I post you take it personal....I never mentioned your name....I have a right to my opinion as well...I have been here longer than you and seen MANY really good people leave and NEVER come back because of threads that go awry...I feel bad...they were good friends and very helpful and because someone didn't agree it would start bashing..and they left...I miss them.
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I gave straight information I don't feel I was mean or rude so I will not apologize and I would not change anything I posted. People who come on here who haven't thought about breeding or done any research should not have mated there dog and need to know that not have learned information about breeding could cause there dog to die or the puppies as well as the fact that the mother could die even if she was being breed by the most knowledgeable breeder. I am so tired of people coming on here and thinking they are the moderators or something well guess what we have moderators who most of the time do a dang good job so back of telling people what they can write and what they cant that's not your job!
No one is pointing their finger at you and no one is trying to moderate the thread by saying what you can and can't write.

You asked important questions in the beginning and gave good information. The person who simply posted "irresponsible" and then left is the one who needs to think before hitting the send button. I'm sure many people had the same thought when they first read the OPs post. However, they opted to just leave and not post something that wasn't constructive to the conversation. I in fact did that very thing when I first read this thread. I had nothing helpful to say (that's not to say I didn't have other things to say) so I just left. I came back though when I saw the thread again to see if the owner found out if the dog was truly pregnant or not and found all this so I felt the need to speak up.

I was trying to get people to just stop for a few seconds and think if they really should hit that reply button. If I had a whistle and you could all hear me I'd blow it and yell "half time" just to break it up. LOL

To the OP: You were given some good advice in the beginning and some important questions were asked to get more information so others could help you better. You can post a new thread in the breeders section or just ignore all that has gone on here and get back to the original topic. I hope Bella isn't pregnant and that you get her spayed but if she is then i wish you the best. Breeding tiny dogs is hard on everyone involved, dogs and people alike.
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To the OP if you're still reading, I just wanted to say that I hope January brings you back to financial security after the Christmas shopping, and that you are able to take your furkid to the vet for prenatal care if necessary, if she is indeed carrying pup(s).

A few things I would suggest:

Learn a hobby.=)

Cross-stitching is fun, very inexpensive if you purchase just the basics. And..stitched gifts are an awesome present.

Crochet - harder than stitching (in my opinion), but scarves are very easy to crochet, and inexpensive to make, and a VERY welcomed gift especially at Christmastime in most places, because it's cold.

Buy some regular fleece at the fabric store. Even if you don't know how to sew, there are all SORTS of things you can make just by cutting the fleece at intervals and tying knots in it (I can help you with that).

Doing all this will not only fill your list of gifts to get other people, but it will also save your pocketbook for the vetcare that your furkid so desperately needs (pregnant or not).

I hope 2012 brings health to your furkid, and to you.
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