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01-05-2012, 08:37 AM | #46 | |
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Great words of advice for everything anyone does in life! Mamma always told me that if you have nothing constructive to contribute, don't say anything at all. OP; when you return, please let us know what's up? You've been given a lot of good advice and some good questions. Eager to hear!
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01-05-2012, 08:41 AM | #47 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| My last post on this thread is to say this poster also posted in another thread saying how she planned this pregnancy because she wanted a puppy. I'm sorry it's wrong to mate a dog when you don't have the money to take care of the dog or haven't done the research. I felt like I was being attacked because I was the only poster who was continuesly posting on this thread and no one who was going off on the posting here quoted who they were talking about so I figure they must be taing about all the posts.
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01-05-2012, 08:48 AM | #48 |
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| I forgot to add, that I for one promote good breeding. If you're interested in breeding your furkid, you should start by getting her tested, to ensure that she is a good candidate for bettering the breed. You should also make sure that any Kens you plan on breeding her with have also had this done. Your vet should be able to assist you in what tests are needed, and recommended (and then do both). I know you have your furkid's best interest at heart, or you wouldn't have posted here. But...sometimes if people are not careful, their own desires can overshadow what is best for their pet. I've been guilty of that in the past (wanting to show off our Brussels when we first got him, so took him everywhere and he ended up getting sick). He is fine now, but it taught me a lesson. Call up some reputable breeders and ask if they accept shadowing. It's where you spend some time with them with their Barbies and Kens (dams and sirs) for a lengthy time. Watch the puppies born, pay attention to what it entails, what vaccines are crucial for the puppies' care, when, what prenatal and after care is necessary for the mother, etc. Also ask LOTS of questions, like, whatever pops into your head. I would suggest doing this (if possible) with at least three reputable breeders. Go to dog shows, ask questions, etc. LOTS of people would like to have a little puppy that was parented by their dog, but sometimes it just isn't the best for the dog, or the breed overall. :] Even if your family members would be getting the puppies, what happens if those family members want to breed that puppy? And then...that puppy's future owners want to breed it? And..then the one following, for generations. Then you have a wholeeeee lot of multi-generations running around that have no health or temperament checks; it can be scary for the future of the Yorkshire Terrier breed. I hope I didn't say anything in an offensive manner. And..welcome to YT I hope you stay!!! |
01-05-2012, 08:56 AM | #49 |
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01-05-2012, 09:02 AM | #50 | |
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I can more than afford becoming a breeder. However, being a dog lover, studying to be a vet when I was younger, going to an aggie and being around dogs my whole life I know better! I can't let the CUTENESS of these dogs get the better of me. What a mess I would get myself into and probably my dogs as well. It's not that I want to make money or save money...well, that's moot anyway, I am just not going to do it! As much as I'd love to see Jimmy's babies, I think it's just best for everyone involved to not do such a thing. There are SO many factors... There are also SO many dogs/puppies available in the world....whether it's shelter or just buying from a reputable breeder. It will be much easier to do that instead.
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01-05-2012, 09:47 AM | #51 | |
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A lot of people think breeding is easy. Just put two dogs together, let them do their thing, and then wait for them to deliver the goods. Then they get to watch momma take good care of her babies and in a few weeks they can sell or give the puppies to their friends and family so they can have a puppy "just like theirs". People think these dogs can handle birth and aftercare all by themselves because "dogs" have been mating for thousands of years all on their own. While this is true, it does not mean that just because they can do it, they should do it. Wild animals just don't go around mating with whomever they see. They search for a mate that will offer the best attributes to the future pups. As domestic dogs, our pets cannot go out and search for the same thing. The dog isn't the one who is deciding to mate. It is the owner who is deciding the dogs fate, therefore it is the owner would should be out looking for the best possible mate for their dog, AND they should be evaluating their own dog to see if he/she should even BE bred. This should all be done AFTER the owner knows they have the knowledge and funds available to take on this huge responsibility. They are responsible for the lives of the dogs being mated and any future life they may create.
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01-05-2012, 10:56 AM | #52 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | And 4... unfortunately there are so many people on YT who do jump to conclusion and beat you down instead of offering help when asked! It's just the way it is and the chance you take when you come to a world wide open forum. Very unfortunate but sadly very true... But from my experience since I joined there are many others like myself and the members who came to your defence. That are very willing to help! Now to answer your question.... My bella might be pregnant, how can I tell??? It is hard to tell until about seven weeks in or without an x-ray at about five weeks. What can i look for to see if she is??? (that depends on how far along she is) At about seven weeks into her pregnancy she will start nesting. You may even find her in strange places around the house while trying to find somewhere safe and quit to deliver when the time comes. Can anyone help me??? Well Of course we can as long as you are willing to listen and able to put up with a lost of crap!! Here are some very helpful sites to look into and if you have any questions at all feel free to contact my. I am always willing to offer help. Canine Reproduction Video and Book on Breeding and Whelping dogs by Debbie Jensen for dog breeders and Whelping Supplies needed to deliver puppies. Do You Know About Pregnancy In Dogs? | Lifescript.com Whelping (Giving Birth) in Dogs __________________
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01-05-2012, 11:10 AM | #53 |
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| Hypothetical if someone said I just bought a puppy but I dont have the money to take it to the vet to get it shots. What would your response be to them? This is someone breeding a dog and admitting they dont have the money to go to the vet. What would you expect someone to say to someone in that circumstance. " oh Im sorry you purposely bred your dogs knowing you didnt have the money to get vet care. That is so unfortunate. I wish you the very best in all your endeavors.
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01-05-2012, 11:18 AM | #54 |
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| [QUOTE=chachi;3778781]Hypothetical if someone said I just bought a puppy but I dont have the money to take it to the vet to get it shots. What would your response be to them? This is someone breeding a dog and admitting they dont have the money to go to the vet. What would you expect someone to say to someone in that circumstance. " oh Im sorry you purposely bred your dogs knowing you didnt have the money to get vet care. That is so unfortunate. I wish you the very best in all your endeavors.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a work pink slip.
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01-05-2012, 11:50 AM | #55 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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| I cannot find the post I made here about something I saw at the EC one night. A lady walked in with a pup wrapped up in a blanket...put her up on the counter and pulled the blanket down to show her female yorkie that had a puppy hanging out. She had let it stay that way for some time and the puppy was dead. I was horrified. I got called into the back right after that...but heard her a bit later in the next exam room saying she could not afford a c-section even though there were other puppies in there and the pup needed it. She also was not interested in surrendering her. When I left, she had brought a crate into their waiting room and the poor yorkie was sitting there panting in obvious distress. It made me sick...I had to get out of there quickly .. just far too upsetting to see. I wish people who wish to breed their pups who have no experience and no money would have to see such events occurring. Sort of like the kids in school who have the dolls to carry around to try and make them think about parenting and the responsibilities.
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01-05-2012, 12:27 PM | #56 |
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| She never said she didnt have the money to see this pregnancy thru, what she said was that she didnt have in DECEMBER'S budget to get a vet to check her to she if the pup was pregnant. She came looking here for some advice as to how to tell physically. It is now January and I am sure she since she does budget her money, that she budgeted the possible pregnacy into it. Everyone was so quick to jump to the conclussion that she had no momey what so ever, and in fact that is probably not the case. OP! Good for you for being on a budget and not living beyond your means! Bobbi
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01-05-2012, 12:35 PM | #57 | |
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01-05-2012, 12:41 PM | #58 | |
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Unbelievable how people want to excuse this kind of stuff and/or come here and act like someone is being mean by advising her of the costs and dangers of breeding.
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01-05-2012, 12:44 PM | #59 |
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01-05-2012, 12:49 PM | #60 |
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