|
Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member! Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us. |
|
| LinkBack | Thread Tools |
02-17-2011, 01:26 PM | #1 |
I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 18,866
| Don’t Neuter Your Dog YET – Read This Life-Saving Information First!
__________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity |
Welcome Guest! | |
02-17-2011, 02:51 PM | #2 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
Posts: 27,451
| Putting this as a thread topic concerns me greatly, especially given the following information about Dr. Mercola, who, by the way is not even a vet. Are you aware or did you just read his site and believe it? To anyone wanting more information, all you need to do is google: quackwatch mercola Here are a few links: FDA Orders Dr. Joseph Mercola to Stop Illegal Claims Joseph Mercola D.O. - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com Joseph Mercola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia from that site: Mercola has received two warning letters from the FDA for violations of marketing laws.[4][5] A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial criticized Mercola's marketing practices as "relying on slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[6] There is SO much out there about this person and I simply do not have the time to post it all; but I wanted people to be aware. I personally believe that part of responsible pet ownership is altering pets. I have had NO issues with any pup that I have spayed or neutered and I have had plenty in my home over the years.
__________________ |
02-17-2011, 03:04 PM | #3 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 37,147
| I have always got my cats spay and neutered at 4 months and all of them lived to ripe old ages without health problems so I would have to see more decisive studies on many subjects before I would believe. I believe in responsible pet ownership and that means you spay and neuter your pets
__________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427 |
02-17-2011, 03:17 PM | #4 | |
Owned by Shadow Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Medford, NJ, USA
Posts: 576
| Quote:
I agree with your concerns. Responsible pet owners spay/neuter their pets. I had two cats, spayed young, lived to 18yrs and 17yrs respectfully. Our Black Lab is 11 and going strong. The benefits outweigh the risks greatly. | |
02-17-2011, 03:25 PM | #5 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL
Posts: 12,235
| Here are the warning letters from the FDA: Warning Letter to Optimal Wellness Center / Joseph Mercola and another: Second FDA Warning Letter to Joseph Mercola (2006) He also believes you should not use a microwave and they are toxic
__________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain |
02-17-2011, 03:32 PM | #6 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 5,748
| while this guy does sound like one of those nutso all organic sell you a million herbal and NATURAL meds. i do agree with his information reguaring overvaccination in children. i do think that it's possible that having too many vaccines too early may be the cause of ADD and Autism. i have no proof, but research is being done about this and i think it's defin. a possability. |
02-17-2011, 04:02 PM | #7 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
Posts: 17,928
| No comments on the website, but yes, there is some evidence to indicate that a family pet who can be kept away from an unaltered dog of the opposite sex (of course accidents happen) should not be altered as early as some vets are doing it now. I would not alter my dog at four months. I would hesitate to do a large breed before a year, although probably would. S/N is being done way too early all across the country. It started for shelters to be able to place the pups faster, but for whatever reason the idea that this is a great practice seems to be everywhere now. Not really true.
__________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶 |
02-17-2011, 05:24 PM | #8 | |
Love my little flowers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In Gorgeous Montana!!!
Posts: 4,499
| Quote:
However because my second yorkie was so small I was hesitant...therefore I did a LOT of research! I came across this information.. http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/longt...uterindogs.pdf Although some situations it is in the best interests of the pet to be s/n at an earlier age... research is proving that dogs should be allowed to mature...early s/n removes vital hormones necessary for their growth and development, and significantly increases risks for bone cancers, hypothyroidism, increases risk of urinary incontinence in females, increases risk of chronic urinary infections....and the list just goes on. I don't know anything about the person in the O.P.s first post...but opinions are shifting on this subject. Many people may have done s/n at an early age and had pets that lived to a ripe old age....but does that mean that the lifespan and health of yorkies as a whole has been improved with early s/n? Research is showing just the opposite. I only wish I knew then what I've learned now. I would have waited to have Daizy's surgery until she was fully mature.
__________________ Tam Flower babies: Daizy Mae and Tulip Petals RIP Honey Rose & Jasmine Last edited by Wabbit; 02-17-2011 at 05:29 PM. | |
02-17-2011, 06:41 PM | #9 |
LoveMy2 Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 4,060
| We recently added an AmStaff to our gang. I know we are going to neuter him, and initially I was ready to have this done at 4-5 months. However, my husband actually started reasearching and found studies that contradict what I believe to be true: S/N the sooner the better. I am still reading information and am not sure if the studies for large breeds would have the same result in small breed dogs...??? Last edited by MaddiesMommie; 02-17-2011 at 06:46 PM. |
02-17-2011, 06:59 PM | #10 | |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL
Posts: 12,235
| Quote:
__________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain | |
02-17-2011, 07:05 PM | #11 | ||
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
Posts: 17,814
| Quote:
Quote:
I am ALL for spay/neuter. I think the general public is NOT responsible enough to be keeping unaltered pets away from other unaltered pets. However I do think 4 months is too young. I waited until Jackson was 7 months old. I did not want to wait longer than 8 months because I did not want marking to start or anything.
__________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier | ||
02-17-2011, 07:10 PM | #12 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
Posts: 17,928
| This is one of the authorities on the subject and it's my favorite site to link to. I would definitely spay and almost certainly neuter. I would, however, do a lot of considering on the right timing: American College of Theriogenologists
__________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶 |
02-17-2011, 07:13 PM | #13 | |
LoveMy2 Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 4,060
| Quote:
I have not found any actual studies to read. I find other people's opinions, and articles written by common people (not vets), and then Wikipedia. There is just so much to wade through on the net. | |
02-17-2011, 07:14 PM | #14 | |
LoveMy2 Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 4,060
| Quote:
| |
02-17-2011, 07:18 PM | #15 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
****************** My opinion about S/N has evolved over the last couple years after reading more about it. It's definitely unpopular to question whether to S/N...but it's a good discussion nonetheless. My sister added a dog to her family (large dog) a couple years ago. She is a physician, and it reallllly bothered her to remove such important hormones from the body by neutering her dog. Her dog never has marked in the house, so I guess they were lucky. For her, neutering was the wrong decision. I'm not saying don't S/N, but after reading a lot of articles etcetera, I can't say the statement that "S/N is better for the pet" is really a fact...I think it's more complicated than that. I too think it's often done too early.
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°şOş°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°şOş°¨¨¨° | |
Bookmarks |
|
|
| |
|
|
SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart