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05-12-2008, 07:02 PM | #1 |
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| Coccidia??? Max HAS IT! anyway long story short...for some reason today when we left to go get max his first set of shots since i have had him...he threw up 8 times...by the time we got there he was throwing up foam. and having diarreaha. it was awfull. but the vet checked his fecal. and guess what!! he has cocidia..apparently it is extremely rare for puppys to NOT have coccidia but most go through it unphased and when their immune system develops they fight it off and it dies. leaving them ok. (its a parasite, that is a single cell) anyway sometimes what causes hypoglecimia especially in yorkies is that they have coccidia and when put in just a little elevated stress events they have a reaction including vomiting and diareiha causing them to get dehydrated and die...at least that is what the vet said...shocking right? well i always thought it was weird that he would vomit after car rides, extreme excitment and other random reasons. so all i have to do is an antibiotic and presto! he is ok. for ten days. apparantly it is VERY common. hum??? who would have known? anyway she also told me that you could have an EXTREMELY good breeder and they will have coccidia as well! and when one pup has it at a kennel....they ALL have it. and apparently older dogs can get it too. but their immune system kills it all off before it is even noticed! i thought that was pretty cool/scary so i thought i would share with you!!! also i asked her the precentage of yorkies that get liver shunt...becuase being on here all the time i was for sure that my dog was going to have trachea calapse and liver shunt. but she told me that less than 5% of yorkies have liver shunts. and she did a really simple check for collapsing trachea and he doesnt have it!!! phew...lol she told me i should stop reading about so many problems with dogs and save my self some stress. LOL but i remember reading on here that people said "you know if you have a good vet when they know not to give certain shots, then you have a good vet for a yorkie!!!" and guess what? i didnt even have to ask her about that one! she said..."im not going to give him half of what i normally give becuase he could have a bad reaction so we will wait till he is a little older" i felt sooooooooo relieved. anyway just thought i would share!! comment if you have any expiernce with this or anything really! P.S. i called my breeder to let him know and he said "yeah i know, i have been battling it for years. and it always come back...thanks for letting me know. ill do a nother massive antibiotic treatment" now that made me feel apprehensive...becuase he should have told me! right????? and i went to go tour a doggy day care place...and they wouldnt let me tour it...should i be worried!!??? should i even consider them?? or is that normal?? Thanks everyone! |
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05-12-2008, 08:50 PM | #2 |
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| Coccidia is a single cell bacterial infection in the intestines. I first thought it was from puppies eating poo but have found out that any number of things may bring it on, more commonly stress or a change in food. The most common symptom is diarrhea that can be bloody if it goes on for a bit. It's not serious if treated early and the usual treatment is Albon for a few days. I give my puppies a 'just in case' treatment for it a couple of weeks after starting to eat kibble. Like anything else, it can be serious if left untreated but it's fairly common and easily treatable in most cases but some stubborn cases may require a longer treatment. |
05-13-2008, 03:42 AM | #3 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Reese had coccidia. No vomiting and I hadn't seen diarrhea...but he was very lethargic and his gums weren't pink...so off to the ER vet. After receiving a shot of antibiotic...the puppy we knew and loved...was playing that evening. We also gave him albon for a week. And yes I was told coccidia resides in all dog's intestines...some get sick and some don't.
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05-13-2008, 04:14 AM | #4 |
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| Everyday is a learning experience, on this wonder of a site... My 2 yr old Gypsy gets motion sickness (so I think) on car rides and on our backyard swing... Could this be associated with COCCIDIA??? Now, Gypsy is extremely active and shows no sign of anything wrong... I was just wondering, should I get her tested? Andrea I Love My Furbabies Nygee, Gizmo & Gypsy!! |
05-13-2008, 04:41 AM | #5 |
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| Kash had coccidia when i got him. he didn't vomit, but he had terrible diahrrea and straining. and he kept dragging his bum. i got medication from the vet and it cleared right up! luckily, i told the breeder i got him from, and she reimbursed me for the cost of the testing and medication.
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05-13-2008, 04:42 AM | #6 |
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| I have to disagree with your vet on LS. Yorkies are 36 x's more prone to LS. This is documented and why it is such a big concern to the Yorkie world.
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05-13-2008, 05:43 AM | #7 |
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| my kitten had that when I got her. She was a rescue and only 4 weeks old. I just had to squirt some yellow medicine in her mouth for a couple days. It didn't seem too serious.
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05-13-2008, 06:11 AM | #8 | |
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Both could be correct, because the incidence of liver shunt in other breeds combined is low. So, for example, if Yorkies are 36 times more likely than other breeds to have LS.....and other breeds have LS 1 in 1000.....then the 5% figure could actually be a little high. (I do not know the actual numbers involved in the study, just giving an example of how both figures could be correct.) Last edited by BakersDozen; 05-13-2008 at 06:12 AM. | |
05-13-2008, 06:48 AM | #9 | |
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05-13-2008, 07:04 AM | #10 |
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| No problem! I always have to think very carefully about figures, as my mind is not particularly mathmatical. I just found the figures from Dr. Tobias' study....and 2.9% of Yorkshire Terriers studied had LS. (483 out of over 16,000) Interestingly, the population studied was dogs seen in veterinary teaching hospitals. (Dogs referred there because they are already sick.) So, as the study states, these figures do not accurately represent the general population. I really don't see how this study could be remotely accurate in predicting the incidence in the general population. However, it definitely does serve its purpose in indicating a predisposition in certain breeds, and the need for further research. |
05-13-2008, 07:08 AM | #11 |
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| To the OP, it sounds like you have a very good and reasonable vet. I find the information about coccidia to be very informative, thanks for posting! Often we tend to automatically blame the breeder when things like this happen, but sometimes it just happens. My vet told me the same thing about stress--she said that a puppy can have coccidia and it not even show up on tests. But then when they are under stress they will experience symptoms. So it is not always just a matter of testing. And I think I would be a little leery of a day care that would not let me see the facilities. I could understand if they did not want you walking around the dogs, for various reasons, but should at least have a place for you to view. Just MHO. Last edited by BakersDozen; 05-13-2008 at 07:09 AM. |
05-13-2008, 09:56 AM | #12 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norman
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| well thanks guys for those oppionions!!! max never had diareahia but he did vomit under car rides and stuff like that...so have your vet do a fecal, that is how they test for it, and all i am doing is squirting yellow bannana flavor medicine in his mouth. he is doing good!!! so im happy to know its very minor. again thanks for all the words peeps!! |
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