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[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I really like the new rule too! It's too bad there are people who don't seem to follow it

I don't really see how this would hurt breeders on here though. We all talk about breeding, then when the female is expecting, then post pictures of the pups when they are born and then as they grow up. I would think that if any members are TRULY interested in someone's pups, they have all the time in the world to ask about them. From everything I know about this forum, members here do plenty of rightful bragging about their new little ones that it's almost impossible to overlook that you've got some pups.

I am so tired of seeing people posting very young pups for sale on here that I could absolutely scream. (Especially when it is usually their first and last post.)

i sure do brag about mine!!!!!!! You all know I am new to this and I am just in awe of their every little move. You will be seeing a lot of my babies. LOL, I guess that is why I hardly get any replies on mine anymore. You all have puppy overload from me LOL I was appalled the other day when someone posted two day old pups on the for sale forum so I really do understand the new rule. people here in Kentucky let them go when they are six weeks old . I am so glad I researched and learned from all you nice people on here. i got Ceeby at eight weeks and he was sick for months with one thing after the other. mainly eating issues and hypoglycemia except when he had pancreatitis the first Thanksgiving. Our wonderful vet left his Thanksgiving meal to treat him. he almost died so I know how very important it is to keep them thee ten-twelve weeks. i would just like to know they are sold before then and going to good homes. Someone on YT, I hope. . Sometimes it takes a while to sell them.

[BamaFan121s]

I know just what you mean. People here let them go at 6-8 weeks too. I don't see any 'regular' members here posting them at such a young age.

[OohLala Layla]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

No need to duck!!!!!!!!! I see your point. I have had many inquiries about my little litter too just from me posting pictures or sharing news. But, I just wonder if those people will even be around when they finally get old enough to take deposits on.

very true because some people get really inpatient, i know i am

[bettyeanne]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

You're absolutely right! I wish that member had to have a minimum of let's say...100 posts (not in the for sale section) before they could post their litters. Posting litters is a privilege...not a right!

That was what I was trying to say! I went back and read my post again and, dang, it sounded like I was advocating letting babies go early .... I didn't mean that at all. In fact, if I were a breeder, I wouldn't let them go before 16 weeks! That's the age Toto was and it was just perfect!

[Sugar's Mom]

Well, I don't intend to keep mine past twelve weeks unless they end up being very tiny. I have another litter due the first of Feb. and really will need the room.

[alpayton]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

You're absolutely right! I wish that member had to have a minimum of let's say...100 posts (not in the for sale section) before they could post their litters. Posting litters is a privilege...not a right!

On the forum that I am administrator of, we implemented the policy that a member must have at least 50 posts to gain access to the use of the for sale sections of the forum. And the member must continue to be a contributing member on the rest of the forum by posting contributing posts (not "how cute" or "welcome" posts) in order to retain use of the for sale sections on the forum. The vbulletin software keeps track of the members posts by putting the "below 50 post" members in a separate usergroup with no permission to post in the for sale sections of the forum. They may post in the wanted sections, however, so they're not totally banned from the classifieds altogther. Since we implemented this rule, we haven't had the influx of new members joining just to post their stuff (chinchillas) for sale and leave. We feel we're protecting our members from possible scammers by implementing this policy. This way, our members get a feel for who they are dealing with before they actually purchase an animal from the seller. Course chinchillas only cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $150-$400. Maybe you'd want to increase the amount of posts required, but I personally think a limit of posts before letting members gain access to for sale ads is a great idea. It's tried and true over on Chins-n-Quills.com.

[Willow]

I guess I really do not understand the holding puppies until they are 10 weeks old?? Our last litter the puppy was weaned by 6 weeks and had his first shots then and would have been ready to go to his new home at 8 weeks, but they weren't able to get him until he was 13 weeks. Legally, puppies can go to their new homes at 8 weeks.

I really do not think it is the admins place to say "you can't let your puppies go or take deposits on them until they are 10 weeks old." Now before you flame me, and say it is for socialization of the puppy, I really think that depends on the puppy. Autumn wanted NOTHING to do with Chewy once she weaned him. She didn't want to play with him or anything and we didn't have any other puppies for him to "socialize" with, so there really was no socialization reason to keeping our puppy to 13 weeks.

I discussed with my vet and another breeder I know and they both agree that 8 weeks (as long as the puppy is healthy and eating and has a normal development) is a good age to go to their new homes.

It was VERY hard letting Chewy go. He was 3 months old and not only had he bonded with us, but we bonded with him and he was somewhat stressed over leaving with strangers. He has adjusted now, but I would prefer my puppies going to a new home around 8 weeks of age so that they are not bonded with my family before going with their new family. IMO, the longer you keep them, the more bonded and attached the family and the puppy are to eachother and the harder it is to let them go to a new home. JMO.

Start throwing your stones.

[doggieluver]

Originally Posted by Willow

I guess I really do not understand the holding puppies until they are 10 weeks old?? Our last litter the puppy was weaned by 6 weeks and had his first shots then and would have been ready to go to his new home at 8 weeks, but they weren't able to get him until he was 13 weeks. Legally, puppies can go to their new homes at 8 weeks.

I really do not think it is the admins place to say "you can't let your puppies go or take deposits on them until they are 10 weeks old." Now before you flame me, and say it is for socialization of the puppy, I really think that depends on the puppy. Autumn wanted NOTHING to do with Chewy once she weaned him. She didn't want to play with him or anything and we didn't have any other puppies for him to "socialize" with, so there really was no socialization reason to keeping our puppy to 13 weeks.

I discussed with my vet and another breeder I know and they both agree that 8 weeks (as long as the puppy is healthy and eating and has a normal development) is a good age to go to their new homes.

It was VERY hard letting Chewy go. He was 3 months old and not only had he bonded with us, but we bonded with him and he was somewhat stressed over leaving with strangers. He has adjusted now, but I would prefer my puppies going to a new home around 8 weeks of age so that they are not bonded with my family before going with their new family. IMO, the longer you keep them, the more bonded and attached the family and the puppy are to eachother and the harder it is to let them go to a new home. JMO.

Start throwing your stones.

No need for throwing stones Alycia, I think that to each his own and I too had the experience with my poodle and when my pom had her puppies, the mom wanted nothing to do with them plus they bonded with us and my other dogs so when it was time to let them go the owners had a rough time b/c they were the only pet. I believe that each female is different and each family is different as well.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Willow

I guess I really do not understand the holding puppies until they are 10 weeks old?? Our last litter the puppy was weaned by 6 weeks and had his first shots then and would have been ready to go to his new home at 8 weeks, but they weren't able to get him until he was 13 weeks. Legally, puppies can go to their new homes at 8 weeks.

Legally, there is no limit here in AL. A friend and breeder here had a mother who dired up and the pups were weaned by 5 weeks and eating reg food by 6. Would it have been OK for them to leave at 6 weeks old and well under 1 lb? I wouldn't think so.

I think that maybe it depends on what's best for the puppy in each situation. I think if I'm not mistaken that many suggest them remaining with their littermates to better their skills in interaction with other dogs, in short. I guess maybe in your situation it wouldn't have mattered...you only had one survive from the litter, right? Can't very well interact with himself I suppose.

As far as what's admin's "Place"--it's there place to do whatever they want...they run the site, not us. From what I gather, they made the change to the rules after MANY requests from members and in an attempt to keep the heated debates to a minimum....can't blame them for trying to stop that.

[Willow]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

As far as what's admin's "Place"--it's there place to do whatever they want...they run the site, not us. From what I gather, they made the change to the rules after MANY requests from members and in an attempt to keep the heated debates to a minimum....can't blame them for trying to stop that.

You are absolutely right and it wasn't MY place to critique the admin. I do apologise.

[Saleswman]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

You're absolutely right! I wish that member had to have a minimum of let's say...100 posts (not in the for sale section) before they could post their litters. Posting litters is a privilege...not a right!

I agree completely, it drives me nuts when I see a "4 sale" posting from someone who has been her all of 3 postings......I have been here for over 600just looking and learning.....guess these breeders know way more than I do about Yorkies....but, of course I DO NOT have a puppy for sale.....


It justs adds to the breeder credibility when they have been at YT fora "minimum" amount of time prior to list their new puppies.....

I agree, Kimberly..

[Sugar's Mom]

My thread is not about the number of posts but about putting the rule of ten weeks old to even advertise. Adminstration does a great job but in reality, I think putting a certain number of posts up before advertising is a much better idea than the ten weeks rule.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

My thread is not about the number of posts but about putting the rule of ten weeks old to even advertise. Adminstration does a great job but in reality, I think putting a certain number of posts up before advertising is a much better idea than the ten weeks rule.

I agree...kind of...I think that both would be great rules, but I think they would be acheiving different goals, both of which are very important. Does that make sense?

A minimum post rule would prevent people from signing up JUST to post pups for sale and then never be heard from again. Breeders that no one knows anything about and has no clue as to if they are credcible and ethical and if a member is going to be taken advantage of.

The 10 week rule prevents them from being posted for sale at too young an age....the "8 weeks and ready to go now and be shiped accross country" type posts.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Willow

You are absolutely right and it wasn't MY place to critique the admin. I do apologise.

Oh I know what you meant....I just know I'd seen that requested by MANY members, didn't know if you knew that or if you thought they were doing it just to be snide.

I'm with you...I love our ADMIN.

[txshopper73]

Actually, I'd much rather like to see that the pups need to be 12 weeks before they can be advertised. But, 10 weeks is such a big step and I'm happy for it. But, this is JMO.