Here We Are Again - Tibbe Holding Forepaw Up! Need Advice. :(

[lillymae]

Is there a vet near you with a K-laser ? You can find out by going to the K-laser website. klaserusa.com It is wonderful for inflammation & no worries for the liver.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by lillymae

Is there a vet near you with a K-laser ? You can find out by going to the K-laser website. klaserusa.com It is wonderful for inflammation & no worries for the liver.

I forgot all about this!!! My vet uses this and goes all over the USA, teaching other vets about it! It works great according to people that have used it on their pets!

[yorkietalkjilly]

Offline due to neck soreness for a few days - getting an injection under fluroscopy hopefully next week for it - I'm checking into all these ideas for Tibbe. Thank you all so much. Bless all your hearts.

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Offline due to neck soreness for a few days - getting an injection under fluroscopy hopefully next week for it - I'm checking into all these ideas for Tibbe. Thank you all so much. Bless all your hearts.

Maybe you need to try some K-laser on yourself. My Mom has suffered with neck pain for most of her life & she has K-laser & Graston & she says it has helped her more then anything else she's ever had done. My Mom has had everything done to her neck there is to try, aside from surgery & she will not go for that but a couple of appts a yr for the K-laser & Graston keeps her pain free. I just had my Piriformis muscles removed & 5 1/2 hrs of surgery in my left bum to remove scar tissue from my sciatic nerve & other nerves in there. My whole leg was on fire with nerve pain & zapping & stabbing & the feel of a hot poker in the top of my foot , I had K-laser on the area & down the back of that leg one time & it was 95% better by the time I got home. Will be having more K-laser & some Graston as soon as I get to the 3 mo mark & my neuro gives the OK. I hope this info helps. Prayers that both You & Tibbe can soon be feeling better.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by lillymae

Maybe you need to try some K-laser on yourself. My Mom has suffered with neck pain for most of her life & she has K-laser & Graston & she says it has helped her more then anything else she's ever had done. My Mom has had everything done to her neck there is to try, aside from surgery & she will not go for that but a couple of appts a yr for the K-laser & Graston keeps her pain free. I just had my Piriformis muscles removed & 5 1/2 hrs of surgery in my left bum to remove scar tissue from my sciatic nerve & other nerves in there. My whole leg was on fire with nerve pain & zapping & stabbing & the feel of a hot poker in the top of my foot , I had K-laser on the area & down the back of that leg one time & it was 95% better by the time I got home. Will be having more K-laser & some Graston as soon as I get to the 3 mo mark & my neuro gives the OK. I hope this info helps. Prayers that both You & Tibbe can soon be feeling better.

Bless your heart - you and your mom sure have had a couple of bad breaks but K-laser and Graston(what is that?) sure sound as if these therapeutic treatment modalities have really worked wonders on each of you! I've rarely heard of such successes with chronic neck pain such as your mom has - almost nothing seems to REALLY help it from the things I've heard and read. But your testimonials are exciting and I'm really interested. Sounds almost too good to be true, which brings hope. Does insurance cover it in human patients? Is is terribly expensive for dogs, I wonder? Does it take a lot of trips for treatments - a killer for me until my left hip is replaced. Can barely walk on it now - it was almost bone-on-bone back in April - yet I've got so much walking, bending, etc., to do running a house with full front and back lawns that need watering plus having a dog to care for, I just wear it out by the end of the day overusing it just here at home! So going out is extra use and pain.

I will definitely be looking into both veterinary and medical K-laser as a possible treatment for both of our inflamed places. Hopefully a neck injection under fluoroscopy will help mine for and save me lots of trips to and fro for K-laser treatment but going to have to look into it if Tibbe's injury doesn't heal normally. K-laser sounds as it will be better or more effective than placebo or other conservative treatments he can tolerate with his MVD, as long as it's not risky or contraindicated with his MVD/IBS and is offered nearby and affordable enough.. He obviously strained the paw and/or leg jumping when I switched out his ramp for the doggie steps and hopefully time, rest and restraining him from jumping, overusing his left leg will help it heal. Strains/sprains in dogs are so hard to heal as they always overuse the injured area just being dogs - especially excitable little toy terriers that spin in fast circles at the drop of a hat!

Thank you for the prayers! Those are always appreciated and the power of prayer and faith in my life as I've gotten older and faced new problems have kept me stronger and more hopeful than I ever could have been on my own!!! I've added you and mom to my prayer list. God bless you both and thanks for all the information.

[dottiesyrky]

I was intrigued with the laser and Graston treatments. The laser I can somewhat understand as a local heating of the tissue to relieve swelling etc. I had never heard of the Graston technique and looked it up. It seems to be a special kind of deep tissue massage using certain metal tools to massage rather than hands. There is a utube video showing this and to me the pressures exerted by the metal tools look painful! I wonder if only chiros do this and if others can also do so? The claims are very impressive and worth looking into. Could be only certain injuries and conditions can benefit?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by dottiesyrky

I was intrigued with the laser and Graston treatments. The laser I can somewhat understand as a local heating of the tissue to relieve swelling etc. I had never heard of the Graston technique and looked it up. It seems to be a special kind of deep tissue massage using certain metal tools to massage rather than hands. There is a utube video showing this and to me the pressures exerted by the metal tools look painful! I wonder if only chiros do this and if others can also do so? The claims are very impressive and worth looking into. Could be only certain injuries and conditions can benefit?

I was going to look it up but had been online too long and should be off now so thank you, Dottie. Sounds like it's something to keep in mind if this neck gets any hinkier than it is and keeps causing bad headaches I can't seem to stop on my own, since I can't take ibuprofen, ASA or NSAIDS or regular pain Rx for it(prescription pain Rx GIVES me a headache!). Osteoarthritis is really hitting me hard in my hip and neck, even my left shoulder and right TMJ pop and crack now. Have been using extra sugar in my iced tea, cereal(in real milk which I now buy) to try to gain weight and have even bought ice cream and cheese, meat to eat. Wonder if all that sugar and rich food could be causing the O-A to act up so? I used to mostly eat veggies and soups, drank soy milk!

[dottiesyrky]

Poor Jeanie, so sorry all your bones and joints ache so much. Even worse when you can't take painkillers etc to ease things. How you do all you do I don't know, must really hurt.
It is possible that diet can make OA worse, and especially if you have changed over to more carbs that the good veggies etc. But you also have to get more calories in to beef you up after the surgery........so what to do???
I guess you have tried all the joint supplements?
Another thing could be the time of relative inactivity after the surgery, then the poor muscles and joints get out of shape. Praying you and your buddy feel better soon.
Hope the injection next weeks does some good too.
Hang in there. Hugs xxxxx

[lillymae]

The K-laser is wonderful for any kind of arthritis too. I take my 17 yo kitty for K-laser treatments as her shoulder goes out & causes her foot to over extend, then she walks funny on that foot & it gets sore in the foot & shoulder & also her lower back & hip on one side. The treatments are $35.00 each or 6 for $120 then 10 for $120 if it's a difficult situation & they need lots of treatment. It keeps the old girl comfy & she still gives my younger cats a run for their money. My mom is in SS & hers does not pay for either K-laser or Graston I'm on phone with her now & she can't remember if they are $40 or $45 but she usually only needs between 1 & 3 treatments every 6 to 10 mo. I will PM you with my phone # & you can call me if you like & I will tell you about all the things myself & my family have had treated with the laser & graston.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by dottiesyrky

Poor Jeanie, so sorry all your bones and joints ache so much. Even worse when you can't take painkillers etc to ease things. How you do all you do I don't know, must really hurt.
It is possible that diet can make OA worse, and especially if you have changed over to more carbs that the good veggies etc. But you also have to get more calories in to beef you up after the surgery........so what to do???
I guess you have tried all the joint supplements?
Another thing could be the time of relative inactivity after the surgery, then the poor muscles and joints get out of shape. Praying you and your buddy feel better soon.
Hope the injection next weeks does some good too.
Hang in there. Hugs xxxxx

Seems to be a spate of ill health but hopefully will be back on track soon. Just had tuna fish salad, sliced tomatoes, grape juice and HD gelato sea salt caramel ice cream for dessert! That stuff is gooooood! 270 cals per half cup or something like that - so rich!

[JuliannaB]

Positive wishes go out to Tibbe and yourself. I have no experience in the things you mentioned but wished to send along good thoughts. Here's hoping some answers to both of your pains.

[chestermama]

sending good thoughts and prayers