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Old 05-11-2013, 06:30 PM   #46
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No that does not mean the mom and pups went to the vet. My guess is the OP went to the vet asking for help just like he has here.

Maybe so, but at least they are trying.
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Maybe so, but at least they are trying.
Trying is not doing. I hope the puppy survives but it's future sounds bleak the way the OP describes what is going on. Googling and asking questions on an online forum are not a replacement for veterinary care.
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Where do you live. Maybe someone in your area who is a Yorkie lover could take him and provide for him. I'm live in KY if you are near I will take him.
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Wow. I came here for help and got a little. But got chastised as well. Yes I'm in a bad financial situation right now and yes i have considered giving him to someone to care or him. But now I'm being told to give up ALL my dogs?!?! What kind of help is that?! Would you give your KIDS to Child Protective Services instantly just because you were going through a situation?!! Wow. Should have never came here. No more replies please.
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Like I said, if you need assistance, we have members in BR and will try to find someone to take your puppy IF you need to surrender him.

As with all online forums, you will get many opinions. Take what you can use and leave the rest behind. No one is going to stop posting...it is not the way it works.

If you stick around you will find that this is actually a very nice and informative forum. You DO have the option of having this thread closed if you don't want people to respond. Just click on the little exclamation mark in the triangle at the bottom left of your screen and ask for the thread to be closed. Only the person who starts a thread can have it closed.

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Wow. I came here for help and got a little. But got chastised as well. Yes I'm in a bad financial situation right now and yes i have considered giving him to someone to care or him. But now I'm being told to give up ALL my dogs?!?! What kind of help is that?! Would you give your KIDS to Child Protective Services instantly just because you were going through a situation?!! Wow. Should have never came here. No more replies please.
1st of all, I would not compare KIDS & child protective services to helpless pups that need immediate vet care & helpful rescues. I would think your kids are a priority over your dogs...even if you care for them like your own children. 2ndly, per YT rules, if you post in the sick & injured forum, you MUST post an update. Update please! 3rd, many people did offer helpful advise & I am very saddened that you only seemed to pick constructive ones & turned it into a negative situation.
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Wow. I came here for help and got a little. But got chastised as well. Yes I'm in a bad financial situation right now and yes i have considered giving him to someone to care or him. But now I'm being told to give up ALL my dogs?!?! What kind of help is that?! Would you give your KIDS to Child Protective Services instantly just because you were going through a situation?!! Wow. Should have never came here. No more replies please.
No update on the pup? Just came back on here for what? You were given a LOT of advice. If you don't have the money for a check up, perhaps you should give up all your dogs. Your children are a priority over your dogs, I think we can all agree on that. But what if one of your kids got sick?
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Wow. I came here for help and got a little. But got chastised as well. Yes I'm in a bad financial situation right now and yes i have considered giving him to someone to care or him. But now I'm being told to give up ALL my dogs?!?! What kind of help is that?! Would you give your KIDS to Child Protective Services instantly just because you were going through a situation?!! Wow. Should have never came here. No more replies please.
Sadly, everyday....and I see it first hand, many, many, many people place their children with friends, relatives and foster care when they can not financially take care of them. The act of a parent doing this is difficult and to me the most selfless act I've witnessed. Currently there are thousands and thousands of children in this situation, getting care they need.

Child Protective services only removes children when parents are neglectful and or abusive. More times than not it is over neglect, when parents don't know or don't care to ask for help. These stories are far too many and border on criminal.

We here have seen pups everyday die because of people who think it is only "a dog". Too many pups go without necessary care and too many people think they would rather try on their own what only a vet can fix. Rescues and shelters are packed with dogs like this...in addition to abused.

I have been in the situation where I've had to give my pets to someone else because I couldn't care for them and I would do it again. Of course in the grand scheme of things your children and family come first...but at what expense? The needless death of your dog(s)? Your pup is very ill, you are not in a position to help him right now and you have a mom and a litter? Your children will remember what you do right now for the rest of their lives is it best to allow your pup to suffer? Sir in the nicest way possible given the circumstances you;ve described I would consider the compassionate offer from LadyJane, what other choices do you have?

We all want whats best for your pup and given what you've described you may be looking at many different issues with this pup, including parvo. I implore you to do what's best for your pets.
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I rarely post here because of stuff like this. The solution I offerred was to surrender a puppy he can't care for to someone who can. In fact, I think he should surrender all his dogs now he's admitted he can't afford to care for them. Not yelling at all, but feeling really bad for the dogs. The 4 kids crying over ther dying puppy, well, who do you think caused that?
Anyway, I'm done here, again.

no.... you were very correct in what you said. Don't let someone push you away ..please.

sometimes saying the painful truth is hard..and hearing it is even harder..but it has to be said.

It is not a crime to give the pup to rescue ... it a shame to let it die becuase you can not help.
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Wow, I hope you are all happy. ONCE AGAIN, I have gotten on a thread in which somebody was just fussed at more than anything else. I have no use for this site anymore. This is not a forum or a place for help or information. It is dictated by a select few that think they are holier than thou and the only ones that know how to care for a yorkie. People have been caring for yorkies way longer than this site has been in existence. If ANY of you told me I needed to get rid of my dog or dogs, you better believe you would get an earful from me. As I said, you can ban me or whatever, I could not care less. I will not be back here again.
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YorkieTalk is a place for everyone, we have members here who don't even have Yorkies...One thing unique about YorkieTalk is that the one common ground people share is the love for the breed and pups in general.

Everyday folks come here, thousands and thousands for advice, whether they are members or not. One only needs to do a google search for anything Yorkie and I guarantee YT information will be at the top of the results.

There are people from every walk of life on here, we all have different beliefs, opinions, ideas and advice on how to take care of a Yorkie.

I'm sorry you didn't like the replies here but the reality is that the dog does need help and the owner can not provide that help. Rubbing Karo syrup on the gums of a Yorkie is not the cure all. Presented with all this OP described you have a very sick dog who has already gone without medical intervention. Is it really fair that this dog suffer needlessly when there are so many people out there willing to help?

To many of us these babies are not just an animal, they are lifelines of love and compassion, they are our babies and there aren't many here that wouldn't do ANYTHING to save the life of a pup, even if that meant surrendering a pup.

Through my time here I've seen people transport surrenders across the country in a maddening relay to get a pup help...I've seen people who have stayed up all night on the telephone guiding byb's through the delivery of pups, I've seen people give their money and I've seen people cry over the deaths of pups they have never met. I've seen people surrender their pups and I've seen YTers take them in.

For you to say this a place less than anything than it really is baseless and unfair and quite frankly appalling to me.

I guarantee that in the future, because of this thread, people will reach out to LadyJane for help, people will rush to the vet (while rubbing Karo syrup on their pups gums) and pups will survive because they did so.

You can choose to be a part of this "family" and offer your advice and accept that not everyone will like nor heed it, or you can walk away and take all that information you want to share with you, do you really want to do that?

I can't imagine not having YT and all the information and support I get daily, not to mention through all my real life nightmares. I've had people talk me through my gut wrenching grief of losing my pup...I've had people give me recipes that have improved my dogs life, peepads that don't smell, clothing that I couldn't possibly find anywhere else, cones that were not traumatic and cumbersome, laughs and tears...thick and thin..love and war...that is YT.
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You mean this thread where the puppy died as I said was going to happen? You did not like the advice given there either....we are not all going around suggesting that people give up their dogs.....BUT we do suggest it when a person is not able to care properly for their dogs.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/4149283-post42.html

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If you look at the first reply to give up the pup, its not the idea of it so much as the TONE. It made it sound as though this guy is negligent. I, too would have been offended by the tone. Sometimes I think in the rush to get the pups or dogs treatment some on here forget the person behind it would not be on here if they weren't trying to help their dogs.

How about saying instead:.
"gosh Im so sorry your in this position" I know you must be desparate to get your pup some help or you wouldn't be on here. I'm sorry for your situation but maybe if taking your dog to the vet is out of reach for you right now you might want to think of placing the pup with rescue that can help the little guy. We can give you some names if your interested.

Don't you think saying that would have a better result than what was said? Maybe this guy had the reserves when the dog got preg, but he just lost his job? I just think you get more with being kind about a situation than running them off because they were made to feel bad. Just a thought...
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I didnt see Linda or anyone even try to make him feel bad about surrendering the pup to rescue. They were just letting him know of that option and you would be surprised how many people in these circumstances havent even thought of rescue
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If you look at the first reply to give up the pup, its not the idea of it so much as the TONE. It made it sound as though this guy is negligent. I, too would have been offended by the tone. Sometimes I think in the rush to get the pups or dogs treatment some on here forget the person behind it would not be on here if they weren't trying to help their dogs.

How about saying instead:.
"gosh Im so sorry your in this position" I know you must be desparate to get your pup some help or you wouldn't be on here. I'm sorry for your situation but maybe if taking your dog to the vet is out of reach for you right now you might want to think of placing the pup with rescue that can help the little guy. We can give you some names if your interested.

Don't you think saying that would have a better result than what was said? Maybe this guy had the reserves when the dog got preg, but he just lost his job? I just think you get more with being kind about a situation than running them off because they were made to feel bad. Just a thought...
Tone? We all speak differently, emergencies require direct quick advice, that's what I saw. You could have delivered it the way you just wrote it, that is fine for you, we are all different here, each us separately. The reply you are speaking on comes from a very seasoned, well educated, extremely experienced breeder, I would be grateful to get any advice from someone like that.
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