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05-12-2013, 06:46 AM | #61 | |
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Said I wasn't going to do this, but first off, they were getting this puppy veterinary help. But no, I did not like your tone back then either. I think we all need to be mindful of this when someone in dire straits comes to this forum, especially new folks. Anyway, I have said my peace. My life will go on as before. | |
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05-12-2013, 06:50 AM | #62 | |
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You cant take is personally.... You may not agree with it but you need to take it all in and listen regardless if you like it or not. Normally there is some truth that lies within all of the other stuff that comes along with it. Other may see it as helpfull and some as rude or uncarring. But in the end we all want what is best for our pups and yours. Whether you take the suggestions given or not it is totally up to you, but there are people who care and wish to help. I wish that you would responde so that those of us who want to help can continue to with all the facts. Or at least message someone who you feel comfortable with and do so privately. Some time that is best in order to avoid all of the hurt feelings and speculations. Which as you can see gets the YT members in an uproar. Im wondering if you gave this pup the Kayro syrup and what his response to it was ? Plus at this age the pups should be on solids or semi solid food by now. Are you feeding them or are they only getting their nutrition from nursing from the mother? Have you taken him to the vet? (borow money if you have to) Please let us know what is going on with this pup so that we can continue to try to help.
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05-12-2013, 07:08 AM | #63 |
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| Time to start vaccinations too.....although you cant give vaccinations to sick puppies so the one will have to wait to get started. |
05-12-2013, 07:28 AM | #64 |
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| How do you know the puppy was not already vaccinated? Some people start vaccinations way to early and the vaccinations can make a puppy very sick.
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05-12-2013, 08:06 AM | #65 |
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| I have to say I agree with magicgenie. Some people only here what they want to hear. They want advice but they get upset when somebody says something they don't want to hear. I understand that the economy is bad and alot of peope are in bad shape. I think giving the dog to a rescue is a great idea. I know how expensive animals can become. I just went through $3400 for surgery one of my dogs and I am probably going to go through another $3400 again within the next year. The surgery was put on care credit which I'm probably going to be paying until I'm 90. I happen to be in a situation where I can handle the expense (almost). Some people are not in a good situation. Well the bottom line is I love the people on YT. I've been in bad situations where I posted on this site and I didn't like some of the comments made, but most of the advice was great. |
05-12-2013, 08:09 AM | #66 | |
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A brand new member does not know she is a seasoned well respected breeder. I agree with the previous poster who said it is not what was said but the tone in which it was delivered. Put yourself in the OP shoes. Distraught trying to get guidance and seeking a forum to see if anyone else had seen this behaviour in a puppy and if so was it something serious? Losing job or job changing drastically and suddenly not having the means to take said puppy to the vet. The advice to give the puppy up was sound most definitely but I too agree it could have been delivered in a kinder way. This is an open forum and everyone as a right to post how they please but don't you think it is a disservice to the dog for us not to try to think before we speak so the new member we know nothing about is more willing to heed the advice. No new member wants to come on here and see their thread taken over with drama and feel scolded for telling the truth. The OP said his job situation drastically changed. Before jumping to the conclusion that he had no money or plans ready for this litter we need to realize we only got a piece of the story and don't truly know this persons situation. Again YES the puppy needs to be released to the care of a rescue, I completely agree. There are ways to get the pup there though and ways to drive a new member away. Sound advice or not when given in such a way it does not leave a new member knowing who you are or what your level of passion is. All I am saying is think a little more about how to deliver such a suggestion. The puppy is the first and foremost concern right? So then taking an extra moment to ensure the OP receives your advice in a way that ultimately helps the pup is what everyone would want I would think.
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05-12-2013, 08:19 AM | #67 | |
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05-12-2013, 08:25 AM | #68 |
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| Oh, good grief, the magical word tone rears it's head again. For all you newer folks, welcome to the world of an online forum where people can express their opinions. Like I said to the OP, use what you can and leave the rest behind. You all have no idea what I am thinking or how I intend for things to come across...just let me tell you this: It takes a LOT of restraint for me to be polite to people who are obviously going to let a pup die while trying to make us sound like bad guys because we don't call them "good mommies" and say "you are doing all you can" when it is perfectly clear they are not. Yes, I am very direct and I make NO apologies for it. I don't believe in enabling. Period!
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05-12-2013, 08:39 AM | #69 |
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| I have a pretty thick skin, but if I were a first time poster with a sick puppy and people told me what an irresponsible pet owner I was, I'd definitely feel bad and offended. I hope that Johnny sticks around and gives us updates on the health of the puppy, and that people make constructive comments on how to treat the puppy and/or find the proper care for it. I also hope that people can tone down the bad vibes and stick around to offer help and advice. I don't seriously think that anyone is going to leave Yorkietalk.com over this, and that instead they meant that they were going to stop monitoring this thread. Anyway, I'm here to offer help and I'm not going anywhere . |
05-12-2013, 08:48 AM | #70 |
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| in response to Lnzy420 to me.. Well you may have taken it that way but he did not. That's what I am saying. It doesn't matter how YOU took it, it matters how he did. He said as much...you have the right to say what you want but so does he. He was asking for help. He didn't feel he got it. Its that simple.. Last edited by kimp5; 05-12-2013 at 08:51 AM. |
05-12-2013, 08:50 AM | #71 | |
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As for giving constructive comments on how to treat the puppy, I believe people DID but he said he cannot afford a vet. THAT is what this puppy needs....not googling and not people who have NO clue what is wrong with the puppy offering care advice. The puppy is at risk of DYING if he does not find out what is wrong. He DOES need to do the responsible thing and take the poor puppy to a VET; and if not, then he should let someone else who CAN afford it, give the puppy the needed care ... if that is calling him irresponsible in your book, then so be it.
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05-12-2013, 08:52 AM | #72 | |
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05-12-2013, 08:52 AM | #73 | |
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05-12-2013, 08:57 AM | #74 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| This isnt a case where the OP wasnt helped it was just advice that they didnt want to hear. Who here could possibly give advice what to do for a dying pup. His choices were go to a vet or turn over to rescue and that was the advice given but that was not what he wanted he wanted some home remedy he could save the pup with but there is no way anyone could have given him. I believe their is something genetic wrong with this pup
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05-12-2013, 09:03 AM | #75 |
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| It wasn't the directness, it was the personal comment added.. Yorkie talk Jillys first response was direct but sent with kindness. there is direct and there is direct with personal opinions added without direct knowledge of the situation.. |
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