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AllDogBoots · 08-05-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

I already checked and Louisiana doesn't have puppy lemon laws.

Still, if this is a reputable breeder, her reputation will be important to her. Hopefully she will do the right thing if only to protect it.

Or I will do the right thing and destroy it.

Ringo1 · 08-05-2010, 10:37 AM

I've been in your shoes ~ worried to death about a brand new puppy; wondering about my breeder; worried that I'm going to lose my little girl. . . .

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

For all my worries, Lucy is still here; still healthy; still playing. Yes, she does have liver issues that must be monitored ~ but, so far, that's it.

I cried; I prayed; I questioned all my choices ~ but here she is and things are fine. I hope that everything works out for you and this is something you can quickly get to the bottom of.

I can hear the stress in your posts. Prayers for both of you.

AllDogBoots · 08-05-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lillymae

Is your vet familiar with AAI, Chiari and GME as all can have same symptoms and LS can also present same as these as well. I know you are going through hell rite now and I just added to it but you need to talk with your vet about these things ASAP because it could be any of these things. I will be praying for you and your baby.

i don't know what my vet is familiar with however I feel confident with the animal hospital. Will blood work show any of this?

lillymae · 08-05-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

i don't know what my vet is familiar with however I feel confident with the animal hospital. Will blood work show any of this?

Only the LS. MRI and Spinal for GME and Chiari and X-ray for AAI most often.

lillymae · 08-05-2010, 10:47 AM

This could be Toxicity from the pill and exacerbated from one of these underlying conditions as well. Actually any of these conditions could be responsible for Toxicity from the pill. If his system is not running properly from any of these things the pill may not absorb and leave his body properly.

BonBon · 08-05-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

i don't know what my vet is familiar with however I feel confident with the animal hospital. Will blood work show any of this?

Why don't you go lay down with the boys and try to get some rest? There's no need to speculate and get any more worked up until the test results are back in.

Rhetts_mama · 08-05-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BonBon

Why don't you go lay down with the boys and try to get some rest? There's no need to speculate and get any more worked up until the test results are back in.

1 step at a time.

AllDogBoots · 08-05-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BonBon

Why don't you go lay down with the boys and try to get some rest? There's no need to speculate and get any more worked up until the test results are back in.

ok i will.

AllDogBoots · 08-05-2010, 11:02 AM

Max won't lay down. He's crazy like his brother. He wants to run and play. I just fed Max and he ate very well. Shouldn't LS symptoms appear more severe after feeding?

nevermind. he was just sitting and wobbled his head and fell into a lay position.

Rhetts_mama · 08-05-2010, 11:06 AM

That's what the literature says.

bjh · 08-05-2010, 11:11 AM

You also have to keep in mind that even if the blood works comes back indicating a problem with the liver that does not necessarily mean liver shunt. Vaccinations and medications like the flea and heart worm meds can effect the results of the blood work. Do you know what vaccinations the breeder gave this puppy? Was he given the lepto shot? Please try not to worry. We are all praying that his symptoms are just temporary.

Another thing to consider it that if he does have a liver shunt and the breeder refuses to take him back then you can possibly turn him over to a yorkie rescue group that can give him the medical attention he needs. I feel strongly that the breeder should refund your money if he does have a liver shunt.

BonBon · 08-05-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

Max won't lay down. He's crazy like his brother. He wants to run and play. I just fed Max and he ate very well. Shouldn't LS symptoms appear more severe after feeding?

nevermind. he was just sitting and wobbled his head and fell into a lay position.

Oh man. I don't know what to say to help you through this. Just know I'm (we're) here if you need to talk, or if you need anything at all.

AllDogBoots · 08-05-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bjh

You also have to keep in mind that even if the blood works comes back indicating a problem with the liver that does not necessarily mean liver shunt. Vaccinations and medications like the flea and heart worm meds can effect the results of the blood work. Do you know what vaccinations the breeder gave this puppy? Was he given the lepto shot? Please try not to worry. We are all praying that his symptoms are just temporary.

Another thing to consider it that if he does have a liver shunt and the breeder refuses to take him back then you can possibly turn him over to a yorkie rescue group that can give him the medical attention he needs. I feel strongly that the breeder should refund your money if he does have a liver shunt.

he had Canina Coronavirus Vaccine, Distemper, ParaInfluenza - Parvo.

The breeder just emailed me that she will NOT take him back but will give me a replacement. She feels that something happened to him while in my care. I'm not ready yet to disclose who this is and everything that has been said, but am prepared to do so if necessary.

A rescue? Dear God. I can give him the medical attention he needs I think. It looks right now that I will have to take care of him no matter what the results are. I certainly don't think that I should be putting him to sleep (as per the breeder).

Rhetts_mama · 08-05-2010, 11:27 AM

ADB- don't let your mind run that far ahead yet. You'll drive yourself crazy with worry and it won't do you or Max any good.

Just take a deep breath, give Max a cuddle (if you can stop him from playing for a second) and focus on what's happening right now.

Wait to see what happens with the blood work, then go from there.

It's already very clear that you love Max and consider him part of your family. So try to stay focused on him and not what someone else is doing/saying or not. You can deal with them later.

EarthAngel · 08-05-2010, 11:31 AM

I agree with RhettsMom...and I am too keeping you and dear Max in my prayers.

08-05-2010, 10:37 AM	#77
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	I've been in your shoes ~ worried to death about a brand new puppy; wondering about my breeder; worried that I'm going to lose my little girl. . . . I wouldn't wish that on anyone. For all my worries, Lucy is still here; still healthy; still playing. Yes, she does have liver issues that must be monitored ~ but, so far, that's it. I cried; I prayed; I questioned all my choices ~ but here she is and things are fine. I hope that everything works out for you and this is something you can quickly get to the bottom of. I can hear the stress in your posts. Prayers for both of you. __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew

08-05-2010, 11:02 AM	#84
AllDogBoots Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Delray Beach, FL Posts: 7,984	Max won't lay down. He's crazy like his brother. He wants to run and play. I just fed Max and he ate very well. Shouldn't LS symptoms appear more severe after feeding? nevermind. he was just sitting and wobbled his head and fell into a lay position. __________________ I'm Karen - Devoted Mama to the Drama Boyz - Cooper & Max www.alldogboots.com Last edited by AllDogBoots; 08-05-2010 at 11:07 AM.

08-05-2010, 11:06 AM	#85
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	That's what the literature says. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

08-05-2010, 11:27 AM	#89
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	ADB- don't let your mind run that far ahead yet. You'll drive yourself crazy with worry and it won't do you or Max any good. Just take a deep breath, give Max a cuddle (if you can stop him from playing for a second) and focus on what's happening right now. Wait to see what happens with the blood work, then go from there. It's already very clear that you love Max and consider him part of your family. So try to stay focused on him and not what someone else is doing/saying or not. You can deal with them later. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

08-05-2010, 10:47 AM	#80
lillymae YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,544	This could be Toxicity from the pill and exacerbated from one of these underlying conditions as well. Actually any of these conditions could be responsible for Toxicity from the pill. If his system is not running properly from any of these things the pill may not absorb and leave his body properly.

08-05-2010, 11:11 AM	#86
bjh Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 7,959	You also have to keep in mind that even if the blood works comes back indicating a problem with the liver that does not necessarily mean liver shunt. Vaccinations and medications like the flea and heart worm meds can effect the results of the blood work. Do you know what vaccinations the breeder gave this puppy? Was he given the lepto shot? Please try not to worry. We are all praying that his symptoms are just temporary. Another thing to consider it that if he does have a liver shunt and the breeder refuses to take him back then you can possibly turn him over to a yorkie rescue group that can give him the medical attention he needs. I feel strongly that the breeder should refund your money if he does have a liver shunt.

08-05-2010, 11:31 AM	#90
EarthAngel Donating YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York Posts: 18,134	I agree with RhettsMom...and I am too keeping you and dear Max in my prayers.