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10-22-2009, 08:37 AM | #16 |
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| Read her other posts and you will get the picture: her female is not potty trained, she does not have a clue on how to do it, she made diapers for her male instead of taking him out to potty, she picked up the boy at 6 and 1/2 weeks of age, she is busy in school and has no time to potty train or to take them for regular walks. And she has no money to take them to the vets now that they mated. She needs help and she should consider asking a rescue or something like that to "help" her out. From education on the breed and dog ownership to everything else. She may have a sincere interest on the well being of her dogs. I wish someone near her could help her understand the whole picture and help her make the best decisions for her self and for these 2 yorkies and most likely litter that is on the way.
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10-22-2009, 09:49 AM | #17 | |
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| This lady that has these two dogs doesn't deserve them... I am sorry but that is how I feel!! Why on earth would you buy or adopt a dog if you don't have the means to take care of it? It makes no sence what so ever to me. I don't care if its something that she wanted... There are a lot of animals that I would love to have but I can't aford the upkeep of them, therefore I keep the ones that I can aford and pray that the rest can find a good home. I just don 't understand WHY someone would buy an animal knowing that she wouldn't have time to be there to look after it nor have the money to take care of it. I personaly think that animal controle needs to step in and take those dogs from her... She has proved that she is not fit to have one... If she says that she doesn't want to go to the vet because its to expensive... Then WHY have the dog in the first place UGH!!:thum bdown Quote:
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10-22-2009, 07:28 PM | #18 | |
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She really needs HELP. That is why i mentioned a rescue, that would take the mom in and care for her, maybe even get her fixed and give her back to her after weaning the puppies if she is indeed pregnant. Read her other posts and you will see how naive this person is to just come open on a forum like this. She really needs help from someone who can educate her, get those dogs fixed so no more "accidents" like this possible pregnancy will happen. This is a very sad situation, but if we do not use WISDOM, we will not be able to help or educate , or protect the animals we love so much. I hope she keeps coming back and will eventually understand that she needs help and will actually seek help, the right help for herself and these unfortunate dogs.
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10-22-2009, 07:50 PM | #19 | |
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| Yes I have read her other posts... All the more reason why she doesn't deserve those dogs. She will take time to post on the board and not go take care of the dogs? I don't get it. Trust me that was NOT an attack that was me being angry that someone wasn't takeing care of a poor helpless creature. If you took it as an attack then sorry... But who is going to speak up for those dogs? She cares more about school and having a life that doesn't involve animals, if she cared for her animals she would have taken care of them. That is ALL i am going to say about the matter because I am NEVER comming in this section again. I didn't come here to get attacked myself I am NOT the one NOT taking care of my dog!! put the blame where it is needed NOT on me!! Quote:
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10-22-2009, 08:24 PM | #20 |
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| She needs to hear a little anger so she realizes how much she is messing up here. Then maybe she will start taking her responsibility more seriously. She probably does have a pregnant female. She needs to take the advice given here and (1) get her female to the vet and (2) study like crazy to learn what she needs to know about taking care of a pregnant female, whelping and caring for the puppies. I know there may be a fine line between getting her attention and not running her off. But at the same time, I would not want to ignore the lack of concern she seems to be showing for the welfare of this girl. It is very important to get the female to a vet. Since she knows little about yorkies and breeding, I doubt the female has been evaluated as to her physical ability to carry a litter, any disease or condition that might make pregnancy a danger, and her overall health. I won't harp on her for letting the dogs breed (and who knows if they were breeding candidates or compatible to each other) since that is a done deal, but now that she is probably pregnant, I think she needs to get the message loud and clear that she has a responsibility to do everything possible to ensure the health and safety of the dam and puppies. If she is unable or unwilling to do that, she needs to turn her over to a rescue as soon as possible. There is NO EXCUSE for letting a dog go without proper care. You take them on, and you owe them health care, quality nutrition, and a safe and loving environment.
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10-22-2009, 08:24 PM | #21 | |
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As for the OPer, she has been back and has not posted to this thread with an update. If she wanted to be responsible and was not able to care for a litter of puppies then she needs to take her dog to the vet and have it spayed~immediately! Spay/neuter clinics are available all over and more people should be taking advantage of the low cost programs so that these types of "accidents" do not happen. There is such a huge problem in CA with pet over population, the rescues are not even able to keep up with the demand of what is going on in the shelters. The shelters are overrun with abandoned pets and they are being PTS because the rescues do not have the space of money to take them all in to their care. This is directly to the OPer~~~~if you need to have the name of a low cost spay/neuter clinic in your area send me a PM and I will give you a link that you can use. I believe that a spay is around $80 and MUCH less than a emergency c section or vetting of a pregnant mom and her litter of puppies.
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10-22-2009, 10:45 PM | #22 | |
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While there are many who say that spaying a pregnant dog is a simple procedure, there are some cautions I've found that would make me hesitate to recommend spaying a pregnant bitch without considering them first. Here's a link (for what it's worth) that mentions the increased blood loss and duration of surgery (along with the increased time under anesthesia) that a spay while pregnant entails. Pregnant Spay I would think that these increased risks would be magnified in a small dog and make such a spay likely inadvisable, especially if not done very early on. I'm admittedly no expert, but it just seems that such a decision should be made in consult with a vet and shouldn't be casually recommended.
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10-23-2009, 12:52 AM | #23 |
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| All these negativity is NOT HELPING HER one bit. Yeah she could of done this, could of done that BUT FACT IS SHE DIDN'T so what can we do now to help her? There is no going back to the past, the past is the past. The least you can do it help her for those who have knowledge in breeding. I'm very upset with these yorkietalk members. I see MANY MANY times people come here for answers because they are concern and some YT member always shut them down and say stuff like "THIS PUP DESERVES A BETTER HOME" or "YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE YOUR RESEACH". Don't get me wrong, YT is a great place and has great information for new owners (like myself) but with people always putting others down and saying things like that just isn't helping. Sorry if I offend anybody but I'm just saying it the way I see it.
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10-25-2009, 12:57 PM | #24 | |
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I have been trying to make people understand this point ! Thank you for posting this !!! I do understand how rescues work, I am very aware . That is exactly what she needs, help from someone who knows how to help !!! Not someone who knows to attack .
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10-25-2009, 02:18 PM | #25 | |
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Many of these people come on asking for help, but need to be told the truth. If you cannot afford a vet it is best to rehome the dog NOW before she goes into labor and possibly needs a C section, which she won't get because this person cannot afford it. If she does not like the advice that is too bad, but there is no way to sugar coat some of these issues. She evidently cannot afford the dogs, does not have time for the dogs and she surely should not be breeding dogs. Hopefully she has enough love and compassion for her dogs to get them the care they need, even if it means surrendering them to someone else. | |
10-25-2009, 03:31 PM | #26 | |
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10-25-2009, 05:30 PM | #27 |
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| She certainly will not be back now so I wonder what will happen with that little Mommy. We'll never know. Truth she does need to hear, but it's the way you tell the truth that makes the difference. NOT a bashing truth...sigh
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10-25-2009, 06:03 PM | #28 |
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| Sadly,sounds like shes preggers to me. Over 25 years ago I had 2 litters and that was after i ownwer handled 2 american champions from wildweir lines, they were both males,the 1st litter whichwas bred to my pointed female went well but only 2 pups, the 2nd litter was a didaster and she needed a c - section and only 1 healthy pup. Please buy a book of delivery and buy and prepare a whelping box.nee dless to say no $$ was made and I feared for my female's life.please keep us posted.Is Mama updated on all of her shots? She really should go to the vet for a wellness visit.Money must be spent in this case. I dont mean to be harsh. |
10-26-2009, 02:29 AM | #29 |
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| Some animal shelters have such a low cost spay. Our animal shelter has a spay. I'm not sure how many times a year. BUT, I will tell you my opinion. I would not spay her as she is going into the 2nd part of her pregnancy. It is too risky especially being a little Yorkie. They have enough problem as it is. Also, if you do end up doing it which the sooner the better, look to see if you have a Animal Birth Control in your area or state. They are also known as the ABC. I did not take Jemma to the spay clinic. They just don't do everything that would be done in a vets office. For larger breeds it would be fine. But not for my little Jemma. But I contacted the ABC. I sent them 70.00 and they paid the entire spay fee. Now in the state of NJ, I think our vets have the highest fee schedule. In your state, it may not be nearly as much. So ABC may not ask you for as much money as I paid. You would be able to then have this done in a vet's office which would be much safer. When you bring her to the vet, come back and let us know if she is. We then can help you from there. While crash coarse on whelping, try and found something on the whelping of small breeds. Many people here can give you suggestions on whelping boxes. You don't need to build one. People here have found household items and converted them into a whelping box. Some great ideas by these people!! But you also need to know that your Yorkie is at risk. Very high. It is not uncommon for them to need a C section. If she does need one and you don't get it, she dies, plain and simple truth. And you need to know who carries that responsibility, you. So hold her and look at her. And while she is licking you, think what is best for HER!
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10-28-2009, 06:16 PM | #30 | |
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There are a few of us who knows something here ! thanks for posting !!!!!
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