yorkie hybrids

[tmirtes1]

Originally Posted by nlbknitter

Hi all

I just joined YT yesterday because I am planning on getting a Morkie in the next few months. In my quest to find out more about Morkies I have been reading a number of threads. Man alive! What a wide range of reactions. This thread is all kind and sweet and supportive of Morkies and their owners, others just lambast owners as nuts not to get a pure bred, or a rescue from a shelter. They are just absolutely certain that ANYONE who sells pups on the internet has GOT to be a puppy mill. They accuse anyone who buys a puppy in such a manner of being horrible people not worthy of owning a dog.

Until I reached this thread, I had decided that I wouldn't even bother announcing my joy at a new pup.

You see, here's the thing; I'm allergic to dogs. I mean I'm asthma-attack allergic to dogs. This said, both my brothers have, or have had, yorkies and I was fine with them. I did find them both a little high-strung, emotionally high maintenance, the dogs I mean, not my brothers!

I currently have a maltichon, whom I adore, and he actually can cuddle up on the bed with me, that's how hypoallergenic he is. I have been told that it's the Maltese in him that keeps him grounded. The Bichon in him makes him really spunky.

My precious maltichon is dying. He has cancer and the cause is environmental, not genetic. So, while I am looking at his imminent demise, I distract myself from crying by looking for my next moment of joy.

A shelter is out of the question. In less than 10 minutes in one of those places, I would be gasping for breath. 15 minutes and they would have to call the paramedics. That's no way to choose a lifelong friend.

I have looked high and low here in the San Francisco Bay Area for someone local who breeds Morkies. And I have found some...who want upwards of $1000 for a puppy! THAT is just not going to happen.

So I have found a woman in the middle of the country who breeds some puppies and ships them, all for a reasonable price. Now before the hue and cry about this begins, I would like to point out that she has a grand total of 16 puppies for sale, out of 4 litters. She sells Morkies, Maltichons, Yorkies, and Maltese, period! She will only let her puppies go after age 12 weeks. She demands references from you. If you don't measure up, you don't get one of her puppies. She guarantees the health of the puppy for 2 years provided you have the pup checked out by your vet within 5 days of getting it home. SHE IS NOT RUNNING A PUPPY MILL!!!

What I would really like to hear about here is more about morkies. My maltichon is the baby huey of the breed. When he's in his fighting trim he weighs in at a solid 24 pounds. I am hoping for something smaller than that next time around. I need to travel to TN a couple of times a year to visit my parents and I want to take my pup with me in the cabin of the aircraft. So, on average, how big are your morkies?

What is their disposition like? I can read breed descriptions on the net 'til the cows come home, I would like to know your stories. Please.

Thanks so much.

Nicole

Welcome! I have a Morkie named Beau. He is about 5 pounds and is sooo much fun! He loves to play and be a feisty little boy, but he also loves to cuddle and insists on being with someone/sitting on someone or beside someone most of the time. He is very smart too! He doesn't bark a lot either. He is not at all high strung. People who meet him can't believe how great he is, since they have this stereotype about small dogs and Yorkies. My neighbor has his brother and he also has a wonderful disposition.

Great mix of both dogs!!

I saw a picture the other day of a Malti-poo and they are just darling also!!

[nana911]

Originally Posted by nlbknitter

Hi all

I just joined YT yesterday because I am planning on getting a Morkie in the next few months. In my quest to find out more about Morkies I have been reading a number of threads. Man alive! What a wide range of reactions. This thread is all kind and sweet and supportive of Morkies and their owners, others just lambast owners as nuts not to get a pure bred, or a rescue from a shelter. They are just absolutely certain that ANYONE who sells pups on the internet has GOT to be a puppy mill. They accuse anyone who buys a puppy in such a manner of being horrible people not worthy of owning a dog.

Until I reached this thread, I had decided that I wouldn't even bother announcing my joy at a new pup.

You see, here's the thing; I'm allergic to dogs. I mean I'm asthma-attack allergic to dogs. This said, both my brothers have, or have had, yorkies and I was fine with them. I did find them both a little high-strung, emotionally high maintenance, the dogs I mean, not my brothers!

I currently have a maltichon, whom I adore, and he actually can cuddle up on the bed with me, that's how hypoallergenic he is. I have been told that it's the Maltese in him that keeps him grounded. The Bichon in him makes him really spunky.

My precious maltichon is dying. He has cancer and the cause is environmental, not genetic. So, while I am looking at his imminent demise, I distract myself from crying by looking for my next moment of joy.

A shelter is out of the question. In less than 10 minutes in one of those places, I would be gasping for breath. 15 minutes and they would have to call the paramedics. That's no way to choose a lifelong friend.

I have looked high and low here in the San Francisco Bay Area for someone local who breeds Morkies. And I have found some...who want upwards of $1000 for a puppy! THAT is just not going to happen.

So I have found a woman in the middle of the country who breeds some puppies and ships them, all for a reasonable price. Now before the hue and cry about this begins, I would like to point out that she has a grand total of 16 puppies for sale, out of 4 litters. She sells Morkies, Maltichons, Yorkies, and Maltese, period! She will only let her puppies go after age 12 weeks. She demands references from you. If you don't measure up, you don't get one of her puppies. She guarantees the health of the puppy for 2 years provided you have the pup checked out by your vet within 5 days of getting it home. SHE IS NOT RUNNING A PUPPY MILL!!!

What I would really like to hear about here is more about morkies. My maltichon is the baby huey of the breed. When he's in his fighting trim he weighs in at a solid 24 pounds. I am hoping for something smaller than that next time around. I need to travel to TN a couple of times a year to visit my parents and I want to take my pup with me in the cabin of the aircraft. So, on average, how big are your morkies?

What is their disposition like? I can read breed descriptions on the net 'til the cows come home, I would like to know your stories. Please.

Thanks so much.

Nicole

Have you already paid the deposit on your 'maltichon'? I'm not trying to dissuade you. I fully understand your allergy issues with a shelter, I have a DIL that is horribly allergic to cats and can't stay at my house. I have two cats. I have yorkies and a hybrid maltipoo along with my rescue mutt..LOL

But, I was going to suggest that perhaps..if you called the shelters or rescues.. most of them have outdoor pen areas where prospective 'parents' can spend some alone time with a particular animal that they are interested in...soooo, perhaps if you called ahead and explained your circumstances, and they had the type of hybrid you are seeking they would bring the dog out to you instead of you going into the facility. Not only would it save you a trip to the ER, but you'd be able to actually meet the animal you might want to adopt. When we adopted Bear we were able to spend some time with him in an outdoor pen, alone to see his temperament and make our decision. I've never purchased an animal long distance. I'm just not sure about missing out on that whole, love at first sight, that we picked each other moment....

[princesmom]

"Until I reached this thread, I had decided that I wouldn't even bother announcing my joy at a new pup."

I agree with you Nicole, I usually don't tell people online that I have a Yorkipoo (Yorkie x Poodle) because of the puppy mill lectures and "you have an expensive mutt" conversations. I am so very sorry to hear about your Maltichon. I went through something similar earlier this year.

I also have terrible allergies but refused to get rid of my cat. It's not the cat's fault my eyes swell shut and I have trouble breathing; why should HE leave? So for the past 14 years I took allergy medication until my tabby passed away in February. I was determined to have another pet but I knew I couldn't have a cat, so I got a hybrid puppy. What a difference! No more allergy meds, no hair shedding all over the house and my clothes, and I didn't have to spend the Yorkie prices (which can be outrageous).

I don't have a Morkie but my hybrid is the healthiest, cutest, energetic and loving little guy you'd ever want to meet. Every time we go out someone falls in love with him and I have to give the breeder's phone number before I can leave the store.

Good Luck with your search for a Morkie. Forget about those people who put down hybrids. We have them for a reason.

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by angeleyes

I am new to yorkie talk and I just wondered where I should post about my baby girl. Belle is a morkie. Her dad was maltese and mommy was a yorkie. Belles' features are maltese but her attitude is pure yorkie! Love her to pieces and wanted to share with others, just not sure what forum?

Welcome to YorkieTalk, and congratulations on your baby girl Belle. Can't wait to see pictures of her and hear more about her.

I have 3 Morkie girls and a Yorkie girl and love them all to pieces. My Meika is 15 months old and looks like a redish-brown Maltese. My Karlee and Kayla are 5 months old and look like light blonde Yorkies. Then my 17 month old AKC pure Yorkie Tiki is very light and looks like many of the Morkies on here.

There are several Morkie owners on YT, and on your profile page you can join a social group called "Mix it Up" and see more mixed breeds (though not much posting on there).

[MauiGirl]

Forgot to mention, you can post everywhere on YT. Enjoy, and show us pics soon

[carmen in nj]

Hello and welcome I also have a half one...LOL well he is really a whole dog... he is a YorkieJack, mom is a jack rusell dad is a yorkie.. his name is Relay and he is a love, he is 7 pounds of all yorkie attitude and bark..
you will find LOTS of good information here and great people to hang with..
hugs,
CArmen in nj

[mate61]

My Morkie ,Chloe, is almost 10 weeks old. I have had her since Friday July 9

[Ringo1]

Welcome to YT!

[ChibiLuv]

I'm new here to and I have a yorkiepoo but he looks and acts mostly yorkie so I think here's good. People seem very helpful and knowledgeable. Just a help out to nlbknitter: I also live in San Fran and I got my baby from a great breeder down south named Sharon. She specailizes in hybrids and has the cutest and best pups (I may be slightly biased though). If you haven't decided 100% I can let you know her info. Sorry I don't know much about morkies except to say that all white ones can be prone to skin problems and allergies but then again everything is prone to something . Good luck!

[Pinky94]

I've been kind of scared to disclose that my puppy is a Shorkie for this same reason, lol. So I'm glad you posted this For me, while I like the characteristics of Yorkies, I did not want a purebred Yorkie. I wanted a Yorkie mix and for me it was a Shorkie. She's still a puppy so I can't say much about her personality, but looks wise she defintiely looks more Shih Tzu which is what I wanted. She is a bit fearless, though, so that must be her Yorkie side. When it comes to mixed breeds I've read it's best to educate yourself on both breeds as they can most definitely take after each one - they might tend to gravitate towards one breed, but I don't think that's something you'll be able to know until the puppy grows up. There are so many things that contribute to a dog's disposition and I don't think you can say bc it's such and such breed it will be this way and so on. I'm sure you will love it and hopefully be able to train him or her to be the way you wanted it to be, but they do have their own personality.

[YorkichonBella]

Welcome to YT!! Your Belle is Adorable! Hope you share more of her with us.
My Bella is a Yorkie/Bichon.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by happy bunny

Welcome to YT!! I have a 'hybrid' Yorkie too, she is a Snorkie. Yorkie with Mini Schnauzer. There are so many kind people here, you are going to love it!! Looking forward to pictures!

You have a Schnorkie or a Snorkie? Schnorkie is a hybrid name for a Miniature Schnauzer Yorkie cross meaning one of each breed parent 50%/50%...a Snorkie is a 25% mini Schnauzer and 75% Yorkie designer breed-I know totally confusing but I've gotten really into designer breed history etc-there is so much misinformation out there in fact many people also call Shih Tzu Yorkie cross is often called a Snorkie when it should be called a Shorkie...how confusing is that? I totally wan tot see pics of your baby! Shnorkie or Snorkies or Mini Schnauzer Yorkie crosses are just my favorite! I think they are the best of my two favorite breeds...well I have a Schnorkie whom is the absolute most undesirable result of the crossing...he's perfect to me, I've also a Yorkie and Miniature Schnauzer here too!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

You have a Schnorkie or a Snorkie? Schnorkie is a hybrid name for a Miniature Schnauzer Yorkie cross meaning one of each breed parent 50%/50%...a Snorkie is a 25% mini Schnauzer and 75% Yorkie designer breed-I know totally confusing but I've gotten really into designer breed history etc-there is so much misinformation out there in fact many people also call Shih Tzu Yorkie cross is often called a Snorkie when it should be called a Shorkie...how confusing is that? I totally wan tot see pics of your baby! Shnorkie or Snorkies or Mini Schnauzer Yorkie crosses are just my favorite! I think they are the best of my two favorite breeds...well I have a Schnorkie whom is the absolute most undesirable result of the crossing...he's perfect to me, I've also a Yorkie and Miniature Schnauzer here too!

Sorry, but most use Schnorkie and Snorkie interchangeably. I don't think I have EVER heard any of the mixes have one name for a 50/50 mix and a different name for a 25/75 mix. What would you be using for a reference since there is really no official breed called either, no dictionary entry defining either? All the breeders that I found online use the terms interchangeably. They even say "snorkie aka schnorkie" and "A Snorkie puppy, sometimes spelled Schnorkie" and other variations of the same thing. Dogbreedinfo has a list of so-called hybrid dogs, they list snorkie but not schnorkie. Hybrid-Dogs.com lists only the snorkie too. So, I think someone might have given you more incorrect info with the difference in spelling meaning a different percent of yorkie in the mix. I found breeders callaing them snorkie with 50/50 mixes as well as 25/75 mixes. Seems like snorkie is the preferred spelling but more than half do list both spellings.

[concretegurl]

I hope you are genuinely asking as I'm not going to have a back and forth with you again like on previous threads it's rude to the OP yes they are for the most part interchangeable especially on sites that advocate for the sale of designer dogs...hm who sells designer breeds mostly reputable breeders working on the creation of crossing genetics across breed lines or those who want to make a quick buck, thus there is so much misinformation, no there is no official breed or dictionary definition,well not one I'd expect you to accept here are a few links to start with I can send more, the ideal of designer breeding is to have a hybrid which is a 50/50 mix and a designer breed which (except Teddy Bears I just read about those) have a 25/75 or to get into the multi generations so the whole designer breed information is being created as of recent, the best idea to go with the responsible breeders working in this area, responsible meaning tracking genetics, crossing for the creation of a healthier "breed" whom has experience in the breeding, raising, training, showing of both the breeds they are mixing and not with the advertisements of puppy mill sellers. I'm no expert but I've been really into Schnorkies since having seen one for sale and realized someone was mixing my two favorite breeds, about 5 years ago when I started to research them. Most commonly you will find that most reputable designer dog breeders are in Canada, and that Canada started the first few registries...here's a few links to start reading-but to the point yes for the most part the names ARE interchangeable, well depending on the designer enthusiast you are talking to some take it way seriously-those who take most seriously are genuinely considered the authorities as they are taking the whole idea of breed crossing to create an improved breed which should be the motivation for any breeder-super controversial for most purebred breeders who are floored at the ideal of crossing two breeds I understand you already used designerbreed.com which is a vague description You'll mostly find the difference in name registration being used by the breeders themselves-similar to how Biewers started, before the Biewers A'la pom pon-which are actually the same dogs right-I wouldn't know anything about them, but most breeders use a name change in Schnorkie vs Snorkie instead of saying F1-F1 or F2-F2 this is an F-3 pup as most people prefer a cute name rather than a genetic definition-actually many of these designer dog breeders use the Dog DNA kits to start the registration of the genetic markers-I know you don't believe in those either though...quoting the doubts of someone who starts their statement "I don't use them know nothing really about them..." the hope is that enough people donate information (DNA ) to the registries and enough people demand the DNA tests and they are both profitable enough and used enough to prove the advancements in their ability to define certain markers found only in certain breeds and make the testing more accurate...most of the DNA companies have a notation about designer breeds and also (in fine print) list their accuracy rates done by independent laboratories.
Designer Dogs, Hybrid Dogs, Designer Dog, Hybrid DogAmerican Mixed Breed Obedience Registration — The AMBOR was established in an effort to improve opportunities for mixed-breed dogs and to acknowledge the efforts and achievements of their handlers in obedience competition.

Mixed Breed Dog Clubs of America — The MBDCA is a national registry for mixed breeds.

Below are two large scale designer breeders whom have recently gotten into designer and hybrid crossing and are applying their AKC breeding methodology to the breeding of hybridsI'm not entirely sure about these registries as some of the hybrid breeders seem to think they accept too many breeds from whomever not be discriminatory enough in selectively accepting whom may register a hybrid start to a designer line-again a lot of people doing this are BYB or puppy millers not those whom feel they are at the beginning creation of a more perfected outcome by crossing breeds
www.wildwindkennel.net/puppy/breed.php?b...Schnorkie
Teapup-Small Breed Puppies (Beers)
Here's an interesting read that I think explains why the more reputable designer breeders don't like registries yet...they accept those whom are not closely watching genetics, here's an article that illustrates that-as I said the point of designer breeding is supposed to be to crop out breed defects in one of the two right-well if genetics aren't done correctly all one has done is created a mixed breed that carries on perhaps the genetic defects of two lines http://www.tualatinkc.org/pdf/Respon...%20Disease.pdf
Okay I'm sorry to the OP I don't want to hijack your thread here Debra can pm if she wants any other information I'm not going to get off topic I was merely curios about the linage of someones dog as I'm so enthused with Schnorkies...or Snorkies..or any combination of Miniature Schnauzers/Yorkies...F1...F2...F3 ) Hmmm how many names were there for Yorkshire Terriers before their officialness, was there a difference in those names because of the geographic and genetic make up of each until they were uniformed?

[concretegurl]

IDK but I think some people are working on a registry for Schnorkies similar to the ATBA (for "Teddy Bears") but in reality it is based on the determining decisions of those creating the registry, similar to the AKC beginings but much more controversial.