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Ponyup · 03-07-2006, 12:06 PM

I was raised to never talk back to my elders and have respect for my authority figures (teachers & coaches) so in this situation to speak up for myself would be disrespectful based on the way I was raised. I would have a very hard time doing this and doing it correctly even if my parents told me it was okay. I've had coaches like this before. They are trying to prove a point that they don't care how long you've played it's their team now. If you stand up to these type of coaches it just makes things worse because then you look like a trouble maker. I believe the coach is trying to threaten and bully these kids and someone needs to intervien. Coaches can come up with the wierdest things to exercise their power. My BIL was cut his senior year because he refused to cut his hair. Go figure.

cheryl000 · 03-07-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jkat

I'm sorry to hear about your upbringing. Parents should not behave like that. I guess that's why you feel so strongly about parental involvement.

For me, my mom has always pushed me to think and to look for solutions myself. Sure, I'd always tell her what's bugging me and she'd offer me advice and her opinions. She'd encourage me to take steps, provided, that's what I wanted to do. Because of the way she brought me up, I'm very confident with what I do.

We had a family friend who's constantly worried about her son. She'd shelter him from anything and everything. He grew up with a bad immune system, can't handle a slight cold. I remember whenever he had problems at school, confrontation with someone, his mom ALWAYS stepped in. His gap between his peers became even wider. He had and has no friends.

Apparantly, my opinions of child-rearing are very different from everyone elses' on here. But, that's just the way I was raised and I believe my mom did a terrific job on both my brother and I.

I do agree with you that problems should be solved on the lowest possible level. Then if there are still problems, go up to the next level. This is something they really stressed when I was in the Navy. I think it's great that you felt like you could talk to your mother about things and trust her so much.
I agree with you that communication is very important. I think that a parent should also involve their kid in any actions they plan to take and let them know what is going on every step of the way. What is going on is so important to these kids and they need their parents to at least guide them on what to do. I think that this is a major case and I hope it gets resolved soon and the they don't miss a game.

bchgirl · 03-07-2006, 12:17 PM

My independent, just like her mother, daughter has no fear talking to adults. While in 5th grade, she casually mentions at dinner that she told her teacher....I don't like you and you're a lousy teacher

Not spoken in anger, just cause she thought he needed to know. I thought I would die. My little miss know it all was promptly informed she was to go back to school and apologize for this remark. You can think it, but it was very disrepectful and hurt his feelings. And how do I know she did what I told her.....I called him later in the week.

jkat · 03-07-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

My independent, just like her mother, daughter has no fear talking to adults. While in 5th grade, she casually mentions at dinner that she told her teacher....I don't like you and you're a lousy teacher

Not spoken in anger, just cause she thought he needed to know. I thought I would die. My little miss know it all was promptly informed she was to go back to school and apologize for this remark. You can think it, but it was very disrepectful and hurt his feelings. And how do I know she did what I told her.....I called him later in the week.

Lol. That's pretty funny. Good of her to speak her mind but even better that you teach her to respect her elders.

So did she apologize?

bchgirl · 03-07-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jkat

Lol. That's pretty funny. Good of her to speak her mind but even better that you teach her to respect her elders.

So did she apologize?

Yes, she apologized in person and in a note later. When she first told us she'd done this....the first words out of my mouth were....YOU DID WHAT?!?!?! We actually have a social circle that includes this teacher, he was pretty understanding about it....Thank God

jkat · 03-07-2006, 12:33 PM

I think I'd rather have a student like your daughter who is not afraid to tell me what's on her mind, even to that extend. Why? I'd know how to work it out with her and talk it out with her.

But, with students that "hide" and won't communicate except through their parents, I find it difficult to work with. I don't know what they're thinking and thus don't know how to help them.

Again, good job raising your daughter!

bchgirl · 03-07-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jkat

Again, good job raising your daughter!

Sometimes I don't think it's the good job we're doing....it's my mother's revenge

alaskayorkie · 03-07-2006, 01:38 PM

I think a lot of good points have been made about the best way to resolve the problem, but the bottom line is it should be resolved. This is high school athletics, not college. This coach has made the team about him, and that's just wrong. If the principal doesn't intervene, you should considering taking the matter to the school board. Well, encouraging your son to take the matter to the school board.

bchgirl · 03-07-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskayorkie

I think a lot of good points have been made about the best way to resolve the problem, but the bottom line is it should be resolved. This is high school athletics, not college. This coach has made the team about him, and that's just wrong. If the principal doesn't intervene, you should considering taking the matter to the school board. Well, encouraging your son to take the matter to the school board.

AY, with another I'll take both sides opinion...LOL

sneri13 · 03-07-2006, 02:02 PM

Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!!

It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year.

He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents.

mustangbee · 03-07-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sneri13

Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!!

It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year.

He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents.

Time to call the School Board!!!!!

jkat · 03-07-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sneri13

Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!!

It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year.

He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents.

Since you son and his teammates have tried and "failed", I'm glad you and other parents have stepped in.

Good luck with the meeting tomorrow and let us know what happened.

Rockster's Mom · 03-07-2006, 02:13 PM

OMG!!!! What a jerk!!!!! I glad your son and his teammates went to the coach, but I think it is time for the the parents to step in. I would diffently call the school board and inform them of the meeting tomorrow with the principal because the they don't always know what is going on. I would suggest that your son and his friends right down everything that happend and was told on along with dates and times, so they have documentation to give to the proper people.

mustangbee · 03-07-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sneri13

Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!!

It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year.

He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents.

Go on line and check your schools bylaws. I just talked to our son, he's a High School Water Polo/Swimming Head Coach. He said there's no way that would fly here. The school can over ride a Coach. Sounds like a power trip coach to me. He will be very lucky if he still has a job by the end of the week. This is so much stress on the students, I feel very sorry for them.
Good luck to all your players.

chattiesmom · 03-07-2006, 06:47 PM

I am so very sorry about the coach issue. I hope you are able to resolve it satisfactorily. Have you had a heart to heart talk to your son to get an thorough understanding about how he feels? It really sounds like the coach is on some sort of power trip to me. I work in the school system and understand some of the politics involved.

03-07-2006, 12:06 PM	#46
Ponyup YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 1,252	I was raised to never talk back to my elders and have respect for my authority figures (teachers & coaches) so in this situation to speak up for myself would be disrespectful based on the way I was raised. I would have a very hard time doing this and doing it correctly even if my parents told me it was okay. I've had coaches like this before. They are trying to prove a point that they don't care how long you've played it's their team now. If you stand up to these type of coaches it just makes things worse because then you look like a trouble maker. I believe the coach is trying to threaten and bully these kids and someone needs to intervien. Coaches can come up with the wierdest things to exercise their power. My BIL was cut his senior year because he refused to cut his hair. Go figure. __________________ Ponyup Mom to LOGAN

03-07-2006, 12:17 PM	#48
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	My independent, just like her mother, daughter has no fear talking to adults. While in 5th grade, she casually mentions at dinner that she told her teacher....I don't like you and you're a lousy teacher Not spoken in anger, just cause she thought he needed to know. I thought I would die. My little miss know it all was promptly informed she was to go back to school and apologize for this remark. You can think it, but it was very disrepectful and hurt his feelings. And how do I know she did what I told her.....I called him later in the week. __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

03-07-2006, 01:38 PM	#53
alaskayorkie Banning Thread Dictator Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anchorage Posts: 30,843 Blog Entries: 57	I think a lot of good points have been made about the best way to resolve the problem, but the bottom line is it should be resolved. This is high school athletics, not college. This coach has made the team about him, and that's just wrong. If the principal doesn't intervene, you should considering taking the matter to the school board. Well, encouraging your son to take the matter to the school board. __________________ Mike ~ Doting Dad to Jillie, Harper, Molly, Cooper, Eddie (RIP), Lucy (RIP), Rusty (RIP) and Jack (RIP). Check us out on YouTube

03-07-2006, 02:02 PM	#55
sneri13 Luv My Spoiled Babies Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,065	Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!! It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year. He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents. __________________ Susan Mac Mellie & Manny Until we meet again at Rainbow Bridge

03-07-2006, 06:47 PM	#60
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	I am so very sorry about the coach issue. I hope you are able to resolve it satisfactorily. Have you had a heart to heart talk to your son to get an thorough understanding about how he feels? It really sounds like the coach is on some sort of power trip to me. I work in the school system and understand some of the politics involved. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

03-07-2006, 12:33 PM	#51
jkat YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 459	I think I'd rather have a student like your daughter who is not afraid to tell me what's on her mind, even to that extend. Why? I'd know how to work it out with her and talk it out with her. But, with students that "hide" and won't communicate except through their parents, I find it difficult to work with. I don't know what they're thinking and thus don't know how to help them. Again, good job raising your daughter!

03-07-2006, 02:13 PM	#58
Rockster's Mom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 1,279	OMG!!!! What a jerk!!!!! I glad your son and his teammates went to the coach, but I think it is time for the the parents to step in. I would diffently call the school board and inform them of the meeting tomorrow with the principal because the they don't always know what is going on. I would suggest that your son and his friends right down everything that happend and was told on along with dates and times, so they have documentation to give to the proper people.