****Jodi Arias - Oh My Goodness!!!****
 

I can't watch the trial itself except occasionally tune in but then have to turn off of it. But I do watch some of the TV coverage of it on CNN and HLN and from what I saw today of this smiling, arrogant, almost proudly giggling, at times coy and coquettish woman talking about her gaggy sex-life, I'm supposed to believe she slaughtered that man she killed because she is a VICTIM of his? She acts nothing like a woman that has been abused and victimized, at least nothing about her demeanor. She acts as if she thinks she is so smart that there is no way she is going to spend significant time in jail.

What in the world do you all have to say about this person? Does anyone believe her? Is she going to walk just like Casey Anthony?

I don't know if she will walk but she certainly seems to think she is going to get away with it. Her stories are so convoluted. I really hope she gets the sentence she deserves.

I haven't watched the case, but read the story. She's scary to me. I pray she does not get off. Ugh

I've been watching this for a couple of weeks. Today the prosecutor finally gets to the kill day, he will probably be showing the pictures of the wounds she inflicted on this poor guy.

This woman is a classic case of a sociopath. What a piece of work she is,her arrogance is unbelievable. She is guilty of the crime, she has finally admitted to that, but is she going to get sympathy from one of the jurors to get a lighter sentence for the murder? After the O.J. and the Casey Anthony trials anything can happen.

I've watched almost all of it, and it's utterly fascinating in terms of human behavior and perception.

The bottom line is that she admitted to murdering him, and it was a brutal, horrendous murder. So given that, she is guilty of killing someone. Whether or not it is premeditated is really what's on trial here, bc that determines Murder 1 and the death penalty. I really haven't seen any real proof, yet, that it's premeditated; at this point in the trial - I'd have reasonable doubt on that point.

I don't like the way the media is portraying this case at all. Even the 'expert' psychologists and psychiatrists are saying things that don't come off as 'expert' at all. Jodi very clearly has mental health issues, has identity problems (meaning, she doesn't really have a firm one, she adapts it to others), is very submissive to men (while also being passive aggressive), is a compulsive liar, has narcissistic tendencies, and for sure has borderline personality disorder. On that same note though (and this may not be popular), she very clearly has some sort of major trauma in her past - it's so obviously plain as day. And I don't say that bc of what she *did*. I say that bc of her demeanor at any given time - whether on the stand, in past interviews, taped phone calls or whatnot. She is so tragically stuffed down inside herself, is shut down (almost no affect at all, at times), and is unable to be/seem authentically her own self - rather she seems to be *acting* as a 'self'. She actually IS the perfect type of person who would be in an abusive relationship. I'm NOT saying Travis did abuse her, bc I don't know that for a fact...I'm just saying that her demeanor and her history of "fusing" with men is the perfect storm for a very one-sided relationship that could also attract abusers.

I do think Travis led a dual life, though - and we never can predict what that does to a person's stability. He presented one person to his friends, family, and colleagues (chaste, followed Mormon dictates, ethical) and another person behind closed doors. It's always important to remember that we never, ever really know what truly goes on in people's intimate relationships. And again, I'm not saying he absolutely was abusive - but I think it's possible. I've heard recorded things he said to her, text messages, emails that do seem quite emotionally abusive. The claims of physical abuse...I'm not nearly as inclined to believe those at all; it just doesn't have that feel. It's very clear that he was very ashamed of Jodi on many levels, and that is terribly sad for both of them. Shame is a very powerful feeling, is extremely destructive - and it's sad to think it was a part of the equation when it's such a useless emotion. Leading this dual existence shows that Travis was also quite vulnerable to being dishonest and inauthentic and unethical (unethical only bc he pretended to follow his church's doctrine so avidly, when he truly did not; he also did not seek guidance when he broke these doctrines he committed to).

Whether or not he 'snapped' for some reason on that tragic day, I don't know. I think it's possible for anyone to snap. If he snapped, and she defended herself - that's something I can understand. What I don't understand is how one could claim self defense when the person was shot in the head and stabbed TWENTY NINE times. Twenty nine stabs is not self defense...that's raging, maniacal violence. Self defense to me, using this situation, would be the defender creating a wound in the attacker that would then allow the defender a chance to run, get out, and call the police later. Self defense is a very real thing...so if it truly *was* self defense, why wouldn't she call the police and report it after? Historically, abuse victims who are forced to defend themselves in an extremely violent way, always call the police after the incident. So, that's a big red flag for me.

I will say this - she is really something to see on that stand. Practically unflappable. Calm, collected, in control, poised. While the prosecutor, in my opinion, is doing one of the worst jobs I've EVER seen in my life. He looks very bad, foolish, immature, mean, degrading, impatient, rude, disrespectful, and totally ALL OVER THE PLACE. There is hardly any cohesion to what he's presenting and he's getting all mucked up in the minutiae - making his goal/case/strategy completely confusing, disorienting, and downright annoying. He needs to calm himself down, stop acting like he can't control his emotions, and start calmly focusing on presenting a good strategy that is EASY to follow. He is just a hot mess. He clearly thinks (and wants us to know) that Jodi is 1000% guilty and that he cannot stand the sight of her - okay, we GET IT already; but bullying her endlessly is doing his case NO favors, while doing the defense case wonders. He's shooting himself in the foot.

Holy crap I wrote a novel! See? It's a fascinating case that really makes your brain weigh a lot of info.

Oh, Ann, I'll have to agree on that prosecutor. I expected a clever and skillful dissection of all of her statements and texts, cleverly interposed with later, changed statements, then moving on to emphasizing her gleeful participation and initiation in the kinky stuff rather than a brow-beaten shell of a victim, ending with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this woman was ever in any way Travis' victim but a predator herself, one-by-one revealing the steps she took to stop him for good if need be, with maybe a bit of Jimmy Stewart aw-shuckness in letting the Jury see the obvious and arrive at its own conclusions. Plus, I'd hoped the prosecution could take any chance by stipulation or even objection in order to stop the hours of pandering to her need to reveal every last detail of her creepy life to the current, known galaxies. Ugh! Instead, we get this screaming, sweating, scattershooting, easily-flustered blunderbuss who makes the woman seem more artful than she even is or could hope to be! The more he yells, the more she talks, the more the Jury sees her as a human, not a predator, and will begin to bond in some way. No way they are getting the death penalty on this one, though it sure does seem premeditated after just what I learned yesterday. I just don't see it.

But it was so gross to see this woman who claims she was such a victim dimpling, grinning, bantering and openly flirting as they discussed her freaky sexting and sex-games with the whole world watching! She does a disservice to all those truly victimized women who live with an abuser and have the medical photos and medical records or suicide attempts to show for it. Makes you want to go shower after just a little bit of watching this trial after hearing her testimony.

I can't believe all of you think she's guilty, did you miss her Inside Edition interview? Notice how she can look the interviewer right in the eyes!



Seriously, after what happened to Casey Anthony, I'm afraid to get watch our legal system in action.

:eyebrow2: Oh, I see now! She really didn't do it! I was so wrong :( - should have just watched her old interviews before they beat the tru.........other story out of her. Well, it's good to know what REALLY happened. These "two other individuals" did it! :rolleyes:

Who talks like that??? "Two other individuals" did it????? Come on, Jodi!!!:rolleyes: I can see the police BOLO now, "Be on the lookout for two other individuals in the murder of WMA Travis Alexander........".

That's a perfect example of a pathological liar Nancy - lol!

I wish I could agree with more of what's been said but.... :D

I don't believe she had to have had any major trauma to be how she is. I believe that some people are just born that way.

I don't see her as being submissive - at all. I think she wants everyone to believe that she is - but I think she knows exactly what she's doing. She is a very strong willed woman, as you can see with her interaction with the prosecutor, and she does not do what she doesn't want to do.

I do believe that Travis was living on both sides of the fence but I think you'd be amazed just how many people of his religion do. Actually, not just his religion - many religions!

I don't think the prosecutor is bullying her because I believe that he is questioning her just like he would a man - and that's how it should be.

Yes, she has admitted that she killed Travis but she also said it was self defence. Not a chance! The prosecutor is trying to prove premeditation and he might be taking too long to do it but he has shown a lot of things leading up to the murder that might have been skimmed over earlier.

I just hope he uses some kind of visual chart showing the jury what she said/did -vs- and what really happened. I think many people remember better with visuals.

I find her so aggravating that if I were the prosecutor I'd probably be arrested for choking her!!! lol!

Lol, good catch. I've been watching it on YouTube, it's good because they can upload long videos now over an hour. Anyway, the she's driving me nuts already, and the prosecuting attorney is driving me nuts, I can never understand what he's getting at, but boy is she talented at evading questions. Feel so sorry for the jury, what did they do to deserve this?

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The prosecutor has involved her in a dance he has orchestrated (sp?)...he is making her get sassy and beligerant and be bold and argue with him....because he will flip that around and ask the jurors when have they ever seen a battered, humiliated, abused, mistreated, taken advantage of, forced sex slave agenda on her, stand boldly and actually assume a caustic, beligerant, aggressive, dont back down attitude with a LAWYER.....if she was such a pitiful wall flower that she couldnt stand up to Travis and his abuse, there would be NO WAY she could transform into Mighty Mouse with the imposing figure of authority personified by the lawyer, in his own "house" !!! She would be crying, sniveling, hiding under that chair she is planted firmly in!
But I would not bet a dime on what will happen...woth the two cases aforementioned, turning out like they did, I am in continuing bemusement by the legal system.

Thanks for explaining what he's trying to do, I just find him so irritating and I WANT to like him. Sadly I do think Baez won the Anthony case because the jurors liked him. I hate the way she's making Travis Alexander sound like such a pervert.

I couldn't agree with you more, especially the bolded part. Some people are just evil, no prior "trauma" required. She was a willing participant in all this, she's no victim. Don't get me wrong, Travis had some issues of his own but Jodi was enjoying the relationship, as strange as it was.
I'm looking forward to the prosecutors closing arguments. That's when he'll give the put it all pieces together.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Yes, all of this! Btw, I did not like his close yesterday...thought it was very weak, and could've been so much more powerful. Suppose he's saving it for closing arguments. But still, he just trailed off rather than closing with a *bam*.

Isn't she just a skillful nuanced liar? Amazes me. She is just seamless about it, it's as natural for her as it is for one of us to tell the truth. Lord, I wish I was her psychiatrist - I'd really want to dissect this psyche of hers.

Yup, me too. What they did sexually doesn't make them perverts, but they're trying to portray Travis as not only a pervert, but a pedophile...so awful, his poor family. They've made the sex such a HUGE part of this trial when really, it's a moot point - they both were willing, they both wanted the same things, and as long as they don't hurt each other - who cares??!!!

Exactly, while I'm glad that women are no longer considered guilty, just b/c they have active sex lives, I hate to see the same thing happening to Travis, and the pedophile business is so evil of her. I'm still behind in testimony and I'm so confused about the pictures she took. I mean did she take the pictures of Travis purposefully? Her sending the Grandma flowers and then telling about the baby names, I just don’t believe Travis was thinking she was marriage material, and that enraged her.

I don't get the photo thing either or what that was all about but in that last photo, that man looks scared to me. When he's looking right at the camera and all wet - he looks petrified - like he just saw a full-grown tiger walk right up to him or something. Looks kind of stunned on his way to dismay and fear. And today in watching the HLN post-trial coverage, they showed photos of her pant leg and part of his head and arm on the floor! I have no idea what was going on with all of that.

Does anyone understand if she shot him first because he attacked her, what was he doing while she was running out of that room into the bedroom and closet and getting a weapon and coming back to the bathroom with it? Has anyone ever heard how she did all of that and came back to shoot him without him being able to stop her during any of that episode of action? Of course, he was stabbed by then, he had to have been fairly badly injured or that guy would have stopped her - knowing she could be going for a weapon IF he had known one was in the house. It sounds to me as if some believe she brought the gun with her and it wasn't in any closet at all but in her purse. But I haven't really paid any attention to any of it until this week. So I'm half-heartedly playing a bit of catch up.

Also, a woman in her thirties, I've never heard what her occupation is and how she supports herself or who is paying for her trial? I did a search for that on Google and can't find anything.

Since noone really knows the exact sequence of events but one of the people who decifers these things claims the shot to the face was last. It was done when he was already dead from the throat slitting. They believe the knife to the chest happened first, possibly while he was in that squatting position where he has that strange look on his face.

They then speculated he was bleeding out over the sink and she started stabbing him in the back. He did try to run out of the bathroom but she apparently was still slicing and stabbing at him.He did have defensive wounds on his hands. He had some slices on the back of his head and his feet. They speculate he was down on the floor in the doorway and that's when she slit his throat. There is a large spot of dark blood in this doorway indicating that. She then drug him back to the shower and did the face shot. Quit brutal.....

That's good to know sort of the sequence because her story that she shot him first and how she managed to get the gun without him stopping her didn't make sense. Trying to get this on the internet in so hard since the last million pages are just all about the testimony and I couldn't really find anything about what really happened without reading pages and my eyes are just not up to that.

Good grief! That sounds like a terrible slaughter and I hope the man lost consciousness or was at least semi-conscious immediately. I can't imagine how his family is standing any of this! It's so brutal I can barely stand to read about it. I wonder what in the world really could make somebody this angry or out of control that they could do all of this to even their worst enemy, let alone someone you've cared about to some degree? Man, I would hate to be her cellmate in any prison she ever goes to!!!!!!!! I'd be scared of that woman! Can you imagine sitting confined to a cell and they open the door and in walks Jody Arias and she gives you a mean look?!?!?!?!?!? And you know you have to spend the next 10 years with her!

I'm still behind, I'm just a little taken back by the fact that she took photos, I can't wrap my mind around that. On high profile murders the lawyers often work pro bono, look at Jose, it put his name on the map. He taught at Havard the next year. Anyway, she works as a waitress.

Finally, at least I know what she does for a living. I looked and looked and one place somebody said they thought she waited tables but didn't really know. So her guy is either pro bono or the State is paying, as she is apparently not well-heeled enough to afford to pay for her own first-degree murder defense. I have never heard of her attorney and I guess none of the big names wanted to take this case on. So few women ever do get the death penalty, I don't see her being one that does, do you all?

And I just heard tonight that Arizona doesn't have re-cross examination, is that true?

The story Jodi tld about her running into the closet and getting the gun was a total lie. It never happened. The prosecutor will probably use this to show she's still lying. The medical examiner said the gun shot was last ,after death.

I'm not from here, I know so little about the state. I thought the defense attorney's always finished last, but I only know that from Casey's trial. Some of the shots of jurors faces are priceless!

How did she overcome him if she didn't shoot him first, she didn't have any injuries did she? Was it just b/c she snuck up on him in shower? Wonder why she shot him after she cut his throat?

That's what I don't understand either. He clearly has a fatal wound to the neck why the gun shot? They speculate that she had the element of surprise when she stabbed him in the chest, possibly hitting him in the lung. He's injured and shocked yet she's stil stabbing him in the back. He just didn't have a chance being severely injured, having no weapon and being wet.

I hope the prosecutors closing argument answers more of these questions and it makes more sense.

I'm listening to day 24 and I'm so sick of her not remembering things. She's a young woman, her memory should be pretty darn good. One thing is true, you don't need a great memory if you tell the truth!

They were (according to her) at first doing a "Calvin Klein" type shoot of him in the shower - bc he was proud of getting in shape pre-Cancun trip (which he was leaving for the next day). So, many of the pics were purposeful. During the murder itself, it's clear that she either had the camera in her hand for part of it, or she stepped on the camera - causing some inadvertent pictures to be taken. After the murder, she erased the pictures - but they recovered them from the flash card.

The pic you mention in the first paragraph of her leg is when they think she may have been starting to drag him back to the shower, where she left him. I too have been inexplicably drawn to the picture where he is wet, and looking directly into the camera. Supposedly, this was part of the 'calvin klein' type shoot. However, the look on his face contains more emotion than just trying to say 'this is my sexy face' -- he's got some intense thoughts going thru his head at that very moment.

She claims she shot him first, however, the coroner *thinks* the shot was last bc there was no hematoma/blood pooling in his brain, at the site of the shot -- which can mean that the heart had already stopped beating. However, since his body was so decomposed when they did the autopsy, the coroner couldn't say this conclusion was an absolute.

As for her employment, she was waiting tables and trying to start her career w/ Pre Paid Legal - where Travis worked as well. Apparently, a lot of young Mormons work for Pre Paid Legal, I don't know why...probably bc it's owned by a Mormon, maybe...?

Some are saying that she planned this photo shoot so that she could get him in a vulnerable position. During the shoot, some of the pics are him sitting on the floor of the shower -- they're saying that when he was sitting in that position, that could've been when she started stabbing him. If the shot did indeed come last, I too am mystified as to why she shot him. Maybe to make it look like it was a huge self defense struggle, and to imply that she tried to shoot him - but he kept coming at her so she 'had to stab him' then...?

The only injuries she said she had was to her finger - that it was cut. And this is after she said he bodied slammed her to a hard tile floor, they had a massive struggle etc. If she did stab him first, I'm surprised she didn't have way more obvious injuries bc he is HUGE compared to her. I almost think it went down like this, given how few injuries she had: she tried first to stab him in the shower, he was injured but functioning and got up, she got the gun and shot him, he went down and was dying, she then proceeded to stab him in extreme rage - hence, the 29 stab wounds.

What I'm really snagged upon is the gas cans. I can't get past the gas cans. There is very little real proof of pre-meditation, but if one thing hooks my mind as to the possibility of pre-med, it's those dang gas cans.

I had no idea of any of this, I haven't heard any of the defense, I started with the tapes of the prosecuting attorney, and they haven't gotten this far. Again, if this was planned it takes it to a whole other level. So far I can easily see her enraged, because someone cheats on her, but then to kill him purposefully because of it, is so horrible. I've been hearing testimony about the gas cans. I'm finally guessing that the gas cans might be some type of proof of premeditation? She was going to burn the evidence because her story of saving money is crazy. Watched Nancy Grace last night and Jodi's friend Bryan Carr says Jodi expects that she will get off on a hung jury, then upon re-trial she'll get manslaughter and time served (5 years). I hope these jurors are brighter than this. Your story resonates with me better than any of the others I've read, shooting him last. Her phone calls with him are just creepy, there's no way he likes her, he seems bored out of his mind talking to her even though there are talking about sex.

Yorkietalkjilly on the Nancy Grace show I head that in AZ prosecutors can recross examine and even jurors are able to ask her questions, that should be interesting, I like that rule.


Since they were talking about Jodi's My Space page hers and Travis's pages up. Here's his page, it seems funny that he didn't have any pictures of her.Travis on Myspace On her blog page, she has a bunch of inspirational quotes, saying that "The following has thrown a little light on the path for me. May it do the same for you if not more..." Apparently, she like to inspire people! They are a little creepy to read, knowing she did what she did. Travis comments, "You are as enlightened as you are beautiful. Those were some good ones. Some I have never seen before even." Jodi Arias | blog on Myspace Again, I don't seen any evidence that he cared for her at all.

I had never heard of this until I heard that yesterday when someone on the Jane Velez-Mitchell show said that. Tried looking it up but couldn't find anything. I sure hope the prosecutor does can another chance.

I didn't think they were allowed to show the jury on TV during a trial.