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Wylie's Mom 05-01-2013 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4200814)
Yeah, I've never been sure which pictures she deleted, did she delete any after Travis was dead? I doubt if she would have confessed if they didn't have the pictures, remember she had a great excuse for the bloody hand print. She had been cleaning months earlier and cut her hand on a glass. :rolleyes:

On a side note, I read that OJ, Jodi, and Amanda Knox (the girl accused of murder in Italy) all share a July 9, birthday. Weird or what?

Yes, she deleted a bunch of naked pics of both her and Travis, and all of the 'accidental' pics that happened during the murder. Which is SO interesting bc she did during a time when she was in such a 'fog' that she can't remember anything...during a time when her brain was supposed to be in fight or flight...not performing an executive function where deleting each pics took 5 individual step. Uh huh. Right, Jodi. FOG.

Nancy1999 05-01-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4201564)
Yes, she deleted a bunch of naked pics of both her and Travis, and all of the 'accidental' pics that happened during the murder. Which is SO interesting bc she did during a time when she was in such a 'fog' that she can't remember anything...during a time when her brain was supposed to be in fight or flight...not performing an executive function where deleting each pics took 5 individual step. Uh huh. Right, Jodi. FOG.

Thanks, for explaining that, I know Juan was saying she deleted pictures, but I was wondering if Travis might have done it before the shower started; it just wasn't clear to me. That's such a goood point, I hope he makes it clear to the jury.


How about closing lines, anyone, I want to say. Travis called Jodi a pathological liar, he said she was "evil" and the worst thing that ever happened to him, is this abusive or truthful?

Wylie's Mom 05-02-2013 05:20 AM

"If the lies don't fit, you must convict."

(anyone get the reference?)

ladyjane 05-02-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4202264)
"If the lies don't fit, you must convict."

(anyone get the reference?)

hahaha...if he says that I will crack up

Wylie's Mom 05-02-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4202289)
hahaha...if he says that I will crack up

Hee, you got it :p!

I'm watching him today....pretty impressive. I like that he's not talking (ranting) in just 1 gear today. He's modulating his tone/voice and it WORKS so nicely for him!

yorkietalkjilly 05-02-2013 12:53 PM

I do have Juan M. on and he's got a memory like a steel trap. I know he's got notes but he rarely needs to look at them and he seems to remember everything. No one knows this case as well as he does. Love the way he was pointing out earlier that Jodi was just as Mormon as Travis and she went to classes, she could read and knew about what she should do and not do, can't keep blaming others for what she says she didn't know, etc., that she has to accept responsibility for her own soul and actions. And he's doing this whole case entirely himself in front of the jury. He's probably going to be one tired puppy when this trial is over.

yorkietalkjilly 05-02-2013 01:14 PM

If JM isn't truly telling of what happened to Travis Alexander during the killing, why is Jodi Arias crying? You'd think she would be angry at this man jabbering all of those lies about what happened.

My guy Charles 05-02-2013 01:16 PM

Oh my gosh! I thought the same thing - his memory is incredible! Even with notes I would not be able to stay on track like he does!! He must be brilliant!
It should be interesting/miserably boring to hear Murmi close....I'm dreading that! I pray the jury is 'getting it'!
Oh,
And why do Jodi's attorneys not tell her to stop smirking and making bad faces?? That seems pretty elementary to me - the jury is watching her ...and I thought it looked like she was coloring again...?
Oh, brother....this needs to end soon!!

Nancy1999 05-02-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4202593)
If JM isn't truly telling of what happened to Travis Alexander during the killing, why is Jodi Arias crying? You'd think she would be angry at this man jabbering all of those lies about what happened.

Yes, she's crying and hiding her face, that would tell me, he's telling the story of what happened, if it were a lie, it seems like she would be more outraged.

yorkietalkjilly 05-02-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4202750)
Yes, she's crying and hiding her face, that would tell me, he's telling the story of what happened, if it were a lie, it seems like she would be more outraged.

That's what I thought. Why would you cry over a series of untruths? You'd get mad! Self-righteous at that guy telling lies.

I didn't know she had said that about hurting her finger during the murder - heard that for the first time today. That and no trail of blood anywhere but right where the crime happened. No blood anywhere but there - she DID clean up well before she did anything else like wash the clothes. And the deleted photos - JM brought out she certainly had the presence of mind to selectively go through the steps of deleting only those photos that could affect her adversely!!! Damning - that! Fog my behind! And all she can remember is what helps her narrative. She's not nearly as smart as she thinks or she would have thrown in some of the bad stuff, too.

ladyjane 05-03-2013 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by My guy Charles (Post 4202596)
Oh my gosh! I thought the same thing - his memory is incredible! Even with notes I would not be able to stay on track like he does!! He must be brilliant!
It should be interesting/miserably boring to hear Murmi close....I'm dreading that! I pray the jury is 'getting it'!
Oh,
And why do Jodi's attorneys not tell her to stop smirking and making bad faces?? That seems pretty elementary to me - the jury is watching her ...and I thought it looked like she was coloring again...?
Oh, brother....this needs to end soon!!

Didn't you see what Willmot did? When Juan made the comment about Alyce and her mind reading, Willmot rolled her eyes. She certainly would not be the one to counsel Jodi about appropriate behavior in court....not to mention that I believe she called the prosecutor's expert witness a bitch.

jp4m2 05-03-2013 05:53 AM

I thought Juan did an awesome job putting all the pieces together for the jury so it made sense. I fear there' s one dummy on this jury,

I have no intention of watchin Wilmott's lies today. Does anyone know if Juan gets a rebuttal after Wilmott's closing statement?

Anyone have any thoughts on how long the jury will take to reach a verdict? My guess will be no death sentence and Tuesday they will return.

ladyjane 05-03-2013 07:00 AM

I thought Nurmi the Wurmi was doing closing. I am not planning on watching. Juan was awesome.
I will be disappointed if they don't give her death. He drew the complete picture for them. Did you know that there are three women on death row in AZ and he put one there?

Meet the 3 women on Arizona's death row

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 07:04 AM

I just heard that Juan does get a rebuttal after the defense- so that's good that the last the jury will hear before deliberating is Juan. Although, I am NOT expecting much from Murmi today - I just don't believe his heart is in defending Jodi....He seems to have checked out!
I saw some guy, that's a friend of Jodi's, (I'm shocked she has friends!!??) that visits her in jail and Wed. Night he said Jodi was fully believing she would get off and get out of jail...? But last night, one of the news commentators said that was why Jodi cried yesterday, it's just hitting her that she may be found guilty!!
It will be interesting to see how long it takes the jury, and I'm afraid you are right.....there will most likely be at least one idiot on the jury that might believe Jodi - but let's pray not!! I think Juan will leave the jury with a clear picture that will make it hard to ignore that she DID plan this murder.....
As I mentioned earlier, I don't think Murmi is a strong enough attorney to make much of an impact today....I'm expecting him to lull us to sleep! I know Charlie will be asleep in my lap :-) haha

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 07:08 AM

I thought that "horde of skateboarders with a screwdriver" part was such a roundhouse of hard sarcasm into her web of lies by Juan. That put the cherry on the top of it all to show the jury how far this woman will go in making it up as she goes along - that the kids on 'boards turned her license upside down - not she. Driving home that point that with Jodi, it's always somebody else's fault when something happens in her life, even when she has to reach into the land of Oz to come up with an explanation. Skateboarders with a screwdriver! Priceless.

jp4m2 05-03-2013 07:27 AM

Your right I saw on another forum Nurmi is doing the closing. Uggggg, I will not be watching that. That boob will probly be droning on til Wednesday. The defenses verson is going to sound so unplausable and asinine compared to the prosecutor's version.

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 09:19 AM

Who is the woman sitting by Jodi today? Does anyone know? Murmi is putting me to sleep and making me mad at the same time?? I just can't comprehend how anyone could defend her....and that was odd that he said he didn't like her either, 9 days out of 10...?

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 12:28 PM

IDK who that is either sitting by Jodi. I agree - Nurmi is boring me silly when I tune over there. Yawn - his style is so slow and his story so improbable and totally based on her changing statements.

Is this jury getting this case tonight?

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 01:31 PM

Nurmi is sleazier than I even realized - google his website -
Ewwwww
Gross!!
No wonder he's defending Jodi - he is a sleazy human!!

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by My guy Charles (Post 4203374)
Nurmi is sleazier than I even realized - google his website -
Ewwwww
Gross!!
No wonder he's defending Jodi - he is a sleazy human!!

I know! Nancy1999 pointed that out a good while back and when I linked to his website I had to go shower!!!

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 01:41 PM

Oh, somehow I missed that!!?
I'm SO disgusted ......

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 02:02 PM

I'll say this - Kirk Nurmi is no Juan Martinez! Can't even hold a candle to him in style or mental acuity or speaking skills. Not that my mind is already made up that she's guilty as sin of planning to talk him into getting back together, use sex to seal the deal or kill him if he decides to take another woman instead of her. I think she was so offended and outraged by his final rebuff, she was like 3 Ninja warriors turned loose. She's more than a bunny boiler - she's a bunny Norman Bates on steroids. Travis Alexander's house will always be like the Bates Motel in Psycho from now on to me.

EarthAngel 05-03-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4203390)
I'll say this - Kirk Nurmi is no Juan Martinez! Can't even hold a candle to him in style or mental acuity or speaking skills. Not that my mind is already made up that she's guilty as sin of planning to talk him into getting back together, use sex to seal the deal or kill him if he decides to take another woman instead of her. I think she was so offended and outraged by his final rebuff, she was like 3 Ninja warriors turned loose. She's more than a bunny boiler - she's a bunny Norman Bates on steroids. Travis Alexander's house will always be like the Bates Motel in Psycho from now on to me.


Totally agree with you!

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 02:20 PM

I am just waiting for a ' Perry Mason' moment where Jodi breaks down and screams "I did it I did it"! Juan is on fire!!

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 02:20 PM

Just heard Juan Martinez said Arias had no bruises from the so-called attack and supposed fight with Travis. I didn't realize that. If he was chasing, body slamming and fighting her, why wasn't she bruised? Most people in a fight have bruises a foot long in places the next day, takes weeks to resorb.

I did hear a person on HLN last night say they had NEVER seen a victim of domestic violence come out of it with only a single finger injury after months or years with a true abuser. They said there are old fractures and scars, missing/replaced teeth and evidence of surgical repairs. The women are haggard, often old before their time, wrinkled from drink/drugs/smoking used to calm the pain, anxiety and fear.

And please somebody tell me - why would she return a used $13 gas can to the store she bought it from? What was the thinking behind that??? That has long puzzled me. Didn't the nozzle fit in her gas tank? I don't get it. Never have heard why she would do that?

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 02:49 PM

Well, it's up to the jury now.

Ya'll think Casey Anthony is watching this?

jp4m2 05-03-2013 03:29 PM

And now we wait.......

I was watching Juan telling the story of what happened in that bathroom. Telling the jury of Jodi inflicting all those horrid wounds and in what order she did it. All the while Jodi is on the split screen shaking her head no, as if it didn't happen that way. I was so hoping Juan could have turned around and said to Jodi....."Why are you shaking your head no! Do I have the story wrong! I thought you had NO memory of what happened? I thought you where in a fog? You can't possibly tell me I have it wrong when YOU don't know what happened... or do you? Why don't you enlightened us all then!"

yorkietalkjilly 05-03-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 4203436)
And now we wait.......

I was watching Juan telling the story of what happened in that bathroom. Telling the jury of Jodi inflicting all those horrid wounds and in what order she did it. All the while Jodi is on the split screen shaking her head no, as if it didn't happen that way. I was so hoping Juan could have turned around and said to Jodi....."Why are you shaking your head no! Do I have the story wrong! I thought you had NO memory of what happened? I thought you where in a fog? You can't possibly tell me I have it wrong when YOU don't know what happened... or do you? Why don't you enlightened us all then!"

Gosh! He should have. Would have frozen her in her tracks, I'm sure, if he'd done that.

Connie 05-03-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 4203436)
And now we wait.......

I was watching Juan telling the story of what happened in that bathroom. Telling the jury of Jodi inflicting all those horrid wounds and in what order she did it. All the while Jodi is on the split screen shaking her head no, as if it didn't happen that way. I was so hoping Juan could have turned around and said to Jodi....."Why are you shaking your head no! Do I have the story wrong! I thought you had NO memory of what happened? I thought you where in a fog? You can't possibly tell me I have it wrong when YOU don't know what happened... or do you? Why don't you enlightened us all then!"

I was thinking the exact same thing! I am on pins and needles waiting on a verdict. Does the jury stay inside the jury room until a verdict is made...or if it gets late, will they go home and come back tomorrow or Monday?

My guy Charles 05-03-2013 05:10 PM

I think the jury got to go home for the weekend....
Which is a bummer because I can't wait for the verdict of Guilty/murder 1!!
Yet, I can't stop thinking about Casey Anthony and worrying that justice may not be served .....in any case, we have to wait! :-(


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